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MrRandomGuy vs checktheevidencedotcom

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MrRandomGuy is arguing in favour of What we were told is true

checktheevidencedotcom is arguing in favour of What we were told is a lie

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[MrRandomGuy]

Introduction

September 11, 2001 was a tragic day for many people.  While it is accepted by the public that what we were told happened is true, there has always been someone that stands up and yells "conspiracy!"  While there may have been some trivial untrue statements made by the government or other people about what happened, the basic sense of what we were told is true.  Commercial planes crashed into the WTC, Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania because Muslim extremists hijacked them in order to attack America with their misguided interpretation of Jihad (Holy War)

Throughout this debate, I will go over the evidence and just basic common sense that the above did happen.  With that, I give the floor to my opponent.

[TK0001]

I'm going to have to give the win to MrRandomGuy on this one.

[Paranormalcy]

I concur, seeing as how checktheevidencedotcom didn't show up - its almost like it was a conspiracy to get people to go to a site...

[Q24]

TK0001 on Apr 18 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

I'm going to have to give the win to MrRandomGuy on this one.

I agree… which goes to show that you don’t always have to be right to win a debate  

[Pseudo Intellectual]

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MrRandomGuy is arguing in favour of What we were told is true

checktheevidencedotcom is arguing in favour of What we were told is a lie

Doesn't that mean they're both arguing in favor of the same thing?

[TheFreedomThinker]

Pseudo-Intellectual on Apr 20 2009, 01:26 AM, said:

Doesn't that mean they're both arguing in favor of the same thing?

i would like to know the evidence

[TheResearcher]

Claire So....Strange on May 19 2009, 12:01 AM, said:

I think that the anti-christ (george w bush) set up 9/11 to profit from insurance policies with some tycoons he knew that owned the building.
And a few people he may have wanted to dissipate probably happened to be in the building at the time?.
Or maybe the Bush Administration wanted evidence in the building against their corruption distroyed?.
Or maybe Bush struck a deal with the militants and gained something from giving them clearance to hijack planes, maybe oil?.

People like you are worrying  

[Saru]

Debate status changed to [Open] due to one participant failing to show up

[Igorokk]

I think that its pretty bad right about now, the economy. Instead of being afraid of the market right now, people should be spending more into retailers etc. Which will keep them alive, and encourage growth in times like these, even. With people pumping money into the econmy, its got no where to go but right back to them. It takes everybody together to get out of this slump, and with people not being useful when it comes to spending, it will just get worse. The more money being spent, the more tax money being generated, and, it going back into the companies, which levels out everything. We shouldnt depend on the government like we have been for them to take care of the companies

[Agent X]

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i would like to know the evidence

Then I'd suggest starting here:

http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18

This is a bunch of links that is devoted to the debunking of 911 "Truthers" (how ironic) conspiracy junk.

[jordiver]

After JFK i wonder why can u still believe in anything the US goverment has to say.

Edited by jordiver, 13 July 2009 - 11:56 PM.

[Agent X]

Hey, you're the government stooge spreading the disinformation, not me.

[*Quinn*]

jordiver on Jul 13 2009, 07:56 PM, said:

After JFK i wonder why can u still believe in anything the US goverment has to say.

Just shows how little most people care.

Even worse, there are those that believe the government played a role in the murder of JFK, yet they'll still act as if it was "so long" ago that it's not a big deal anymore.

And oh, the fact MK-Ultra was real, and the government has acknowledged it, is no big deal to most people either. You know, who cares that they experimented with mind control on unwilling and unknowing citizens.

Yet people still think the government is trustworthy and are willing to overlook these occurences. It's sad.