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#16    Benz

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:18 AM

Melioth on Feb 26 2009, 04:01 AM, said:

I think there will be a huge debate about this. Such as lightning being natural and that we don't have the right to control it.......or something. I really don't care. But people will debate over stupid things.

The debate wouldn't last long.

Person A "Changing something that is Natural is wrong."

Person B "Everything we own/build/do is changing something That is Natural, whether it be the ground, air, water."

Debate over because person A is a hypocrite. Unless of course they stand in one spot in their entire life with no clothes, no nothing.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:20 AM

clubfoot on Feb 26 2009, 02:15 AM, said:

"An ounce of prevention prevents a pound of cure."

This quote is much easier to understand


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:32 AM

AGoodWriter on Feb 26 2009, 05:20 AM, said:

This quote is much easier to understand

There is a lot to be said for those old quotes. They did 'come about' as a consequence of experience, or, if you like, 'learning from history'.  thumbsup.gif


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:44 AM

clubfoot on Feb 26 2009, 03:32 AM, said:

There is a lot to be said for those old quotes. They did 'come about' as a consequence of experience, or, if you like, 'learning from history'.  thumbsup.gif

Ya as long as the quotes are not contradictory.


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 06:47 AM

AGoodWriter on Feb 26 2009, 05:44 AM, said:

Ya as long as the quotes are not contradictory.

THAT is the 'tricky bit', sorting the wheat from the chaff! That's where personal assessment comes in, and given that people's opinions are quite often contradictory, "one person's rags can be another's riches".  laugh.gif


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 08:47 AM

chrisfreak on Feb 25 2009, 07:29 AM, said:

I remember I read somewhere that lightning doesn't have that much valuable energy for us.


Your correct it seems.   LINK

"The energy liberated by lightning is indeed impressive. For example, during one lightning strike, tens of thousands of amps of electrical current flow between hundreds of millions of volts, releasing several billion joules of energy in just a fraction of a second. Furthermore, there are about four million lightning strikes on our planet every single day, resulting in a total worldwide power of more than 100 billion watts. If this large amount of energy could somehow be harnessed it would supply a significant fraction of the power needs of the United States."

"Unfortunately, lightning strikes are also distributed over a very large area, and the density of strikes at any one location is relatively small. At our 250-acre lightning center in north-central Florida, we get about six natural lightning strikes per year. Using rockets trailing wires we can trigger an additional dozen or so. The result is that even on a pretty big piece of land in the lightning capital of the United States the energy of the lightning would only power a few 100-watt light bulbs—and that assumes that somehow we could extract all the energy out of the lightning, which would be nearly impossible. To put this in perspective, if all the solar energy that falls upon the same area were captured then it would power several million 100-watt light bulbs. As a result, despite its impressive show of power, lightning is not in fact a practical source of energy."





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Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:20 PM

Ghost Ship on Feb 26 2009, 04:47 AM, said:

Your correct it seems.   LINK


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Posted 26 February 2009 - 10:56 PM

What possible use could ball lighting be as a weapon? we have guns already and they do any job fine, why carry around a gun that could overload and blow any second? I really doubt weapon stability.

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 05:57 AM

What would you need as a focus or spell component to use ball lightning as a weapon?.....  blink.gif  Oh wait, D&D flashback there.  In all seriousness, I think it would be pretty damn cool if we could harness that as a weapon, the sad thing is whatever we tested it on would then lead to animal and then possible human experimentation to see how it destroyed flesh.  We do have somewhat of an idea as there have been people who have been struck by lightning, but that isn't intentional... maybe?

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:38 PM

Whats all the complaining about? Our nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons are far more destructive than ball lightining could ever be. Heavens forbid our goverment has a potentially cheap, effective, and demoralizing weapon that does not put our serviceman in harms way. You would need a massive amount of energy for it to be more deadly than a standard cruise missle, why is everyone commenting how this is a sign of the apocolypse? The weapon would be effective at terrain deniance, messing with electronic systems, and demoralization tactics, but even the strongest known lighting bolts barely put a dent into metallic objects, ball lighting as a weapon is nothing to start quoting einstein about people.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:53 PM

Lightning as a weapon...

Is there anything that we, as a speciese, haven't tried to kill each other with yet?


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Posted 18 March 2009 - 10:55 PM

Mr.Delicious on Mar 18 2009, 10:38 PM, said:

Whats all the complaining about? Our nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons are far more destructive than ball lightining could ever be. Heavens forbid our goverment has a potentially cheap, effective, and demoralizing weapon that does not put our serviceman in harms way. You would need a massive amount of energy for it to be more deadly than a standard cruise missle, why is everyone commenting how this is a sign of the apocolypse? The weapon would be effective at terrain deniance, messing with electronic systems, and demoralization tactics, but even the strongest known lighting bolts barely put a dent into metallic objects, ball lighting as a weapon is nothing to start quoting einstein about people.

I agree with you. I guess the main issue is not the destructive capability of ball lightning, it's more a case of, why do they have to look at the weapon's capability aspect in the first place? As you've effectively stated, we are already 'armed to the teeth', a little 'constructive' rather than 'destructive' research would be nice, but of course there is the budget funding allocation issue to deal with first.



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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:10 PM

Promethius on Mar 18 2009, 10:53 PM, said:

Lightning as a weapon...

Is there anything that we, as a speciese, haven't tried to kill each other with yet?

If we come to truly understand quantum physics we may even be able to 'disrupt' things at a molecular level, now wouldn't that be fun! This is starting to 'feel' suspiciously like the "Chaos Theory" to me.  tongue.gif  



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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:14 PM

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If we come to truly understand quantum physics we may even be able to 'disrupt' things at a molecular level.


It's a bit tragic really, we've done so much fighting, but were only just getting started...

Just wait 'till they produce nanobots which can kill us from the inside and selective-viruses and all sorts of other things guarenteed to spoil the party. sad.gif


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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:27 PM

Promethius on Mar 18 2009, 11:14 PM, said:

It's a bit tragic really, we've done so much fighting, but were only just getting started...

Just wait 'till they produce nanobots which can kill us from the inside and selective-viruses and all sorts of other things guarenteed to spoil the party. sad.gif

I made a mistake before, I meant to say sub-atomic, not molecular, anyhow, there is always an 'upside' to the 'downside', nanobots may very well end up saving peoples' lives through less 'intrusive' surgery. When we overcome our propensity for violence we can actually be a pretty good 'bunch of people'. Philanthropy does actually still exist, all we have to do is remember that and 'apply' it. Easy to say, harder to do.






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