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[Moon Minion]

Slave2Fate on Mar 12 2009, 11:57 PM, said:

It is likely that most of the disappearances are from mechanical malfunctions, operator error or adverse weather. Or even a combination of the three. Sometimes emergencies can arise without notice and leave no time for distress calls, the ocean has and always will be an indifferent mistress.

Yes that's definitely one plausible theory, but still theory. Until someone can prove the Bermuda triangle is no mystery, it is still a mystery.
But like everything there probably is some boring logical explanation to it, waiting to be found out. *Sighs*

[psyche101]

Moon Minion on Mar 13 2009, 09:09 AM, said:

Yes that's definitely one plausible theory, but still theory. Until someone can prove the Bermuda triangle is no mystery, it is still a mystery.
But like everything there probably is some boring logical explanation to it, waiting to be found out. *Sighs*

It is not all that myserious in perspective

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Why do ships and planes seem to go missing in the region? Some authors suggested it may be due to a strange magnetic anomaly that affects compass readings (in fact they claim Columbus noted this when he sailed through the area in 1492). Others theorize that methane eruptions from the ocean floor may suddenly be turning the sea into a froth that can't support a ship's weight so it sinks (though there is no evidence of this type of thing happening in the Triangle for the past 15,000 years). Several books have gone as far as conjecturing that the disappearances are due to an intelligent, technologically advanced race living in space or under the sea.

Kusche's Theory

In 1975 Larry Kusche, a librarian at Arizona State University, reached a totally different conclusion. Kusche decided to investigate the claims made by these articles and books. What he found he published in his own book entitled The Bermuda Triangle Mystery-Solved. Kusche had carefully dug into records other writers had neglected. He found that many of the strange accidents were not so strange after all. Often a Triangle writer had noted a ship or plane had disappeared in "calms seas" when the record showed a raging storm had been in progress. Others said ships had "mysteriously vanished" when their remains had actually been found and the cause of their sinking explained. In one case a ship listed missing in the Triangle actually had disappeared in the Pacific Ocean some 3,000 miles away! The author had confused the name of the Pacific port the ship had left with a city of the same name on the Atlantic coast.

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[Slave2Fate]

psyche101 on Mar 12 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

It is not all that myserious in perspective




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Yes, then there are people who run a little too fast and loose with the facts. Between that and the mundane crashes/sinking/emergencies there is little room left for something supernatural at work here IMO.

[Moon Minion]

Slave2Fate on Mar 13 2009, 12:35 AM, said:

Yes, then there are people who run a little too fast and loose with the facts. Between that and the mundane crashes/sinking/emergencies there is little room left for something supernatural at work here IMO.

Yes, it's seems reasonable to rule out anything unusual or paranormal.

Edited by Moon Minion, 13 March 2009 - 12:14 AM.

[aquatus1]

Moon Minion on Mar 13 2009, 12:09 AM, said:

I don't know, they found the Titanic shipwreck ok, they do find lots of things. I'm more curious as I've said as to the way things vanish there.

Oh yeah, they found the Titanic OK...it just took about a dozen expeditions, millions of dollars worth of investment, and robotic vehicles that took decades to design and build.

As to the way things vanish there, well, they vanish there the same way they vanish anywhere else.  Either you get a distress call, or it just doesn't show up on schedule.

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Yes that's definitely one plausible theory, but still theory. Until someone can prove the Bermuda triangle is no mystery, it is still a mystery.

Ah...I'm not sure you got that in the right order.  Generally, one has to prove that something exists before they try to disprove it.  After all, how can something be disproven if it hasn't been proved to begin with.

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But like everything there probably is some boring logical explanation to it, waiting to be found out. *Sighs*

Unfortunately, yes, there is.  And it ultimately comes down to nothing more complex than sensationalism.  A man decided to sell stories to make money, and played fast and loose with the facts to make them more interesting.

The mystery...is a non-mystery.  It never existed.

[Moon Minion]

aquatus1 on Mar 13 2009, 01:44 AM, said:

The mystery...is a non-mystery.  It never existed.

Alas, I humbly admit defeat.

[Slave2Fate]

Moon Minion on Mar 12 2009, 05:58 PM, said:

Alas, I humbly admit defeat.

It's only a defeat if you think of it that way. Personally when one of my theories gets shot down, I see it as gaining knowledge and insight. Like snatching victory from the jaws of defeat!   

OK, maybe not that dramatic, but it's only a loss if you don't consider the possible gains.

[Moon Minion]

Slave2Fate on Mar 13 2009, 02:05 AM, said:

It's only a defeat if you think of it that way. Personally when one of my theories gets shot down, I see it as gaining knowledge and insight. Like snatching victory from the jaws of defeat!   

OK, maybe not that dramatic, but it's only a loss if you don't consider the possible gains.

Thanks mate, I'll try and keep that in mind.

[aquatus1]

Moon Minion on Mar 13 2009, 01:58 AM, said:

Alas, I humbly admit defeat.

Dude, this isn't a competition!

You learned something new, and that's fantastic!

[Voyager10]

Slave2Fate on Mar 12 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

It's only a defeat if you think of it that way. Personally when one of my theories gets shot down, I see it as gaining knowledge and insight. Like snatching victory from the jaws of defeat!   

OK, maybe not that dramatic, but it's only a loss if you don't consider the possible gains.

I agree also, I think this is a good attitude to have. Although its sometimes easier said than done, but in the end if something can looked at honestly then there is something to learn from the defeat.

Edited by Voyager10, 13 March 2009 - 01:20 AM.

[psyche101]

Moon Minion on Mar 13 2009, 11:11 AM, said:

Thanks mate, I'll try and keep that in mind.

Mr Fate already put it well, I just wanted to say this makes you open minded, accepting facts in the face of a more sensationalist (and exciting) theory. The truth is the truth, and I feel UM makes what is considered mundane, not mundane at all. The true story of flight 19 is a sad and interesting tale one may never hear in the face of all the sensational claims, yet such claims bring light to these facts.

Edited by psyche101, 13 March 2009 - 03:04 AM.

[aquatus1]

As an interesting aside, I once told the actual story of Flight 19 to my squadron back in Virginia Beach.  It was interesting watching the professional pilots wincing every time I told them of something that happened that violated a set rule that exists today.

[The New Richard Nixon]

mechanical malfunctions? like what? Though they have been affecting Instrumental devices eg:compasses, radios ,etc, etc.

Maybe i wonder if there was a 3rd pole?

[Mattshark]

aquatus1 on Mar 13 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

As an interesting aside, I once told the actual story of Flight 19 to my squadron back in Virginia Beach.  It was interesting watching the professional pilots wincing every time I told them of something that happened that violated a set rule that exists today.

Yep this whole thing stems from the flight leaders incompetence and stupidity.

[Ashiene]

i agree that theres no mystery with bermuda triangle.