[Voyager]

I don't know if anyone may understand this, but for people who have always felt like they had the character/personality of a leader, or were more mature (or sensitive) than the mass, do you ever feel like you would rather not know all that you know or have the responsibility that you have been given.

[darksoul_]

Voyager on Apr 17 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

I don't know if anyone may understand this, but for people who have always felt like they had the character/personality of a leader, or were more mature (or sensitive) than the mass, do you ever feel like you would rather not know all that you know or have the responsibility that you have been given.

such things should be cherished rather then resented, imo

[muddyfrog]

Voyager on Apr 17 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

I don't know if anyone may understand this, but for people who have always felt like they had the character/personality of a leader, or were more mature (or sensitive) than the mass, do you ever feel like you would rather not know all that you know or have the responsibility that you have been given.

I understand.

I am no leader, and not really mature in many ways; I am very mature in the way you mean, and I do feel much more perceptive, because I had to be in the early years of my life. I also got lucky in seeing many truths...

But I do not feel like a leader, and I would be a poor one.

If I face this energy and use it, though, I will raise others around me naturally...

Personal responsibility is the most important.

-Muddy

[Meiliken]

Voyager on Apr 17 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

I don't know if anyone may understand this, but for people who have always felt like they had the character/personality of a leader, or were more mature (or sensitive) than the mass, do you ever feel like you would rather not know all that you know or have the responsibility that you have been given.

I actually know what you mean. I'm an inborn leader and indeed always know the answers before others. Even though other people know this about me, they never think of me as a leader. Usually I'm the last to know of a problem. I always end up saying "if you'd told me about this sooner, this would never have happened." The few times it is brought to be, I've always been successful. You'd think a track record would afford you that, but it doesn't seem to. I don't speak of this in a work place, but in all aspects of life. Friends, social circles, work, what have you. I've actually deigned to sit back and watch people mess things up because just like children, they'll have to shock themselves first to know not to put their wet fingers in a power outlet.

[bleedingelite]

I think what you're experiencing is a side-effect of sentience. A lot of human beings think that they're special. We each feel like we're main characters in some grand story. The cure to this is to sit back and think that there are almost 7 billion people in the world, and an overwhelming majority of those people don't know you or care about the fact that you're alive. It may seem like I'm being negative and cynical, but if you can manage to realize your basic insignificance you should have no problem getting over yourself and your leader complex. Good luck!

[As a Matter of Fact]

It all depends on what impact you have on your current surrounding. Plus there is the argument of 'born leaders' and 'institution / molded leaders'.
I would have to say that if you were a born leader you wouldn't be tired of leading because you were blessed with the correct wisdom to deliver goodness upon your surrounding.
If you are a institution molded leader you just might get tired of it because you yourself find that what you were programmed to believe is false and doing harm upon your surrounding. : )

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Meiliken on Apr 18 2009, 02:57 AM, said:

I actually know what you mean. I'm an inborn leader and indeed always know the answers before others. Even though other people know this about me, they never think of me as a leader. Usually I'm the last to know of a problem. I always end up saying "if you'd told me about this sooner, this would never have happened." The few times it is brought to be, I've always been successful. You'd think a track record would afford you that, but it doesn't seem to. I don't speak of this in a work place, but in all aspects of life. Friends, social circles, work, what have you. I've actually deigned to sit back and watch people mess things up because just like children, they'll have to shock themselves first to know not to put their wet fingers in a power outlet.

To the first... Yeah... How convenient.

To the second... that's because you might not be a leader... hello?

Leadership is tricky... it can be learned to a certain degree, but ya just gotta have it man ya know?

[Superman]

Voyager on Apr 17 2009, 09:06 AM, said:

Do you ever feel like you would rather not know all that you know or have the responsibility that you have been given.

Nope. Someone has to be the alpha male.

[Helen of Annoy]

Superman on Apr 21 2009, 03:49 AM, said:

Nope. Someone has to be the alpha male.

And listen to his alpha female if he wants to hold that position



Some people are born leaders but because of some reason known to god or whoever screwed up this world the way it is screwed up, they never, ever lead. The alpha males are substituted with alpha leeches.

Only in times of serious trouble humans tend to actually do what smartest among them suggests, but it is quickly restored back to usuall crap the moment danger goes away.

[WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT]

Thats what we call a type A personality....

[=Jak=]

bleedingelite on Apr 20 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

I think what you're experiencing is a side-effect of sentience. A lot of human beings think that they're special. We each feel like we're main characters in some grand story. The cure to this is to sit back and think that there are almost 7 billion people in the world, and an overwhelming majority of those people don't know you or care about the fact that you're alive. It may seem like I'm being negative and cynical, but if you can manage to realize your basic insignificance you should have no problem getting over yourself and your leader complex. Good luck!

There won't be a born leader.. there can be born duties or worker... Yes there can be millions of follower to that one leader/gd... but that leader can show path to his known knowledge to the unkown followers.... Since the great leader yet to learn from his experience.. what they learnt is just a drop of water from the sea... those leader/gd also again a follower of some follower/sense.

Nobody is perfect... A ego man think, he or someelse is perfect and a great leader...

Enjoy the team work.. gr8 post

There are only followers no leaders in the circle... or there is only leaders no follower in the circle...

This post has been edited by =Jak=: 23 April 2009 - 02:35 AM

[muddyfrog]

leading is called leading because your followers are on a leash so to speak...

no one should be led.

So my point was everyone lead there F ing selves!

And in doing so others will "awaken," as it were.


-Muddy

[Lost Souls]

am an only child and i grew up with a step sister who was younger than me. let me tell you why life suck like this. you have to go through th emost toughest things in the world without anyone warning you, or telling you how to make it better you struggle the whole way, and then tell others how not to take the path or you let them know what ahead and you get to see them do it and some do it even better than you did, but they ar eonly so lucky they got you as a leader to learn from. i consider myself stronger because no one has told me whats going to happen you just got to learn the hard way, this makes us stronger people look up to me im always th eone for advice. what sucks is when i need advice whos there for me?well i just go to yahoo answers. lol

[=Jak=]

Nothing turned up as I wished... Since the day I started to love this one and everything.. That is nothing.

[Meiliken]

Dr. Peter Venkman on Apr 20 2009, 09:20 PM, said:

To the first... Yeah... How convenient.

To the second... that's because you might not be a leader... hello?

Leadership is tricky... it can be learned to a certain degree, but ya just gotta have it man ya know?

Not always true. Too many people "seem" born to be leaders, and indeed hold leadership positions but couldn't lead people out of a hole in the ground. The military is full of that. People in leadership positions who don't know leadership.