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BlindMessiah on Jun 17 2009, 02:45 AM, said:

Nope. Kyle Reese said that everyone was in a Skynet prison camp, including John Connor, when he broke them all out, and started the resistance. None of that happened. In four, the resistance has been started, a few people are in that prison camp, and Connor attempts to free them. According to Kyle Reese, there is no resistance, every single human is in a prison camp, and Connor break them free, and rallies the resistance. It almost seemed like his Messianic role was in starting the resistance. Either way, three and four inaccurately portrayed the future Reese foretold.

Actually that's not what Reese said to Sarah:

He says "There was a nuclear war. A few years from now, all this, this whole place, everything, it's gone. Just gone. There were survivors. Here, there. Nobody even knew who started it. It was the machines, Sarah." and "This is burned in by laser scan. Some of us were kept alive... to work... loading bodies into dumpsters and incinerators. The disposal units ran night and day. We were that close to going out forever. But there was one man who taught us to fight, to storm the wire of the camps, to smash those metal mother****ers into junk. He turned it around. He brought us back from the brink. His name is Connor. John Connor. Your son, Sarah, your unborn son."

The movie is accurate about all this if you were to look at it from the perspective of Kyle Reese.

[dlv]

BlindMessiah on Jul 11 2009, 05:21 AM, said:

I didn't say he needed character development. I said his character is insignificant. For three movies we've been told that John Connor is special because he started the resistance. In this film, John Connor didn't start the resistance nor did he do anything to contribute to it. Yet they continue to make Connor seem so important, despite him doing nothing to deserve it.

The maker of T5 will, no doubt, get to it. T5 will be the missing link between T3 & T4. T4 is weird because there are tons of unsaid things going on, especially the element of revenge. Christian Bale's freak out on the DP didn't go unrewarded, hadn't you noticed??? So, think of the upcoming T5 (if...) as T3.5 with a different John Connor actor.

This post has been edited by dlv: 15 July 2009 - 08:11 AM