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[Widdekind]

grocery store video-games "disprove" Aliens ?

Throughout the 1980s, grocery stores commonly contained "space alien invaders" video games, prominently located at their entrances; whose particle-board frames were painted in gaudy colors; and whose "dinky music" constantly filtered throughout the store, even when nobody was playing.  Skeptical Americans, perhaps not approaching the question of Aliens from a more scientific perspective, seem to associate "dorky video games", etc. with Aliens; and to thereafter be psychologically unable to seriously consider the (hypothetical) existence of actual Aliens.



group think for God ?

In the Middle East, "God in heaven" is (automatically) trusted.  Deriving therefrom, only humans who are accepted by Religious Leaders are trusted.  Group-think, of limited perspective, results.  In the west, "Almighty Dollars" are (automatically) trusted.  Deriving therefrom, only humans who have money ("grease", bearing the markings of "God amongst the stars") are trusted; and, without trust (social status), humans earn no money.  Group-think, of non-logical, circular 'reasoning', results.  By such means, alternative perspectives are (automatically) eliminated.  They are not questioned, or considered, however; rather, they are not trusted.  In no cases, is human trust, founded upon logic, reasoning, facts, argument, debates.  In all cases, human trust is founded upon automatic non-rational habit ("they assume on God; they don't think that's a bad idea" [prediction: it will turn out to be the Worst; dated July 2012 AD, T-5 months]).  Yet, advanced Aliens may still Exist (actually, factually); 'They' would presumably be Hostile; 'They' would presumably destroy earth; heeding 'Their' Hostile Orders, voluntarily, would presumably lead to millions of human deaths, every time 'Their' Orders were obeyed, with zero exceptions.  To date, many many millions of humans have died, in wars associatable, to Religion(s), of "God in the starry heavens".



actual vs. factual

On-world Religious Authorities claim to represent "God in the starry heavens".  Allegedly living out their lives under Divine Aura (Shekinah), they claim to be Divinely Guided.  If so, then they are "living Divine Messages".  For example, Jews claim that their Rabbis are Divinely Guided, so that the details of their tying their shoes in the morning, or which way they walk, embodies Divine Significance¹.  Religious Authorities concern themselves with practical "actuality".  For example, they derive actual on-world social Dominance, from Divine Scriptures.   They seem not to concern themselves with "factuality".   They seem to favor "what works", for "singled-minded pursuit of [on-planet] Dominance"; over "what's true".  If so, then Divine Messages, manifested on earth, are actual; are Dominant; are non-factual.  Logically, what is true for Religious leaders living under Divine Aura, today, would also be true for Religious texts, recited by Religious leaders, living under Divine Aura, ages ago.  I.e. God Exists, actually; Divine Messages have been telepathically transmitted to earth, actually; from Divine Messages, on-planet Super-Dominance derives, actually; but Divine Messages, whilst being actual, are not necessarily factual.  Actually Existing Super-Aliens would presumably be Hostile, Deceptive, Dominant, Destructive.

¹ Nehemia Gordon.  Hebrew Yeshua vs. Greek Jesus

space flashlights ?

Repetitiously, hypothetical exploitation, of Quantum Mechanical "entanglement", perhaps permits the construction of energy-cost-effective "space search-lights", which transmit entangled photons across the cosmos, in quantum potentiality; and which are only actualized, into real photons at target, when-and-where necessary.  In all other circumstances, entangled photons, always partially present back at the transmitter in quantum potentiality, could perhaps be "yanked back", actualized into real photons at source.  Such a "dark light" would both function as a "space flash-light", peering into the voids of deep space, and illuminating (and interacting with) every space object residing therein; whilst being intrinsically in-visible, and non-actually-present, at any other place-and-time.  In analogy, entering a dark room, with a "dark light" flashlight, the wielder could sweep the room; and where-and-whenever the beam fell on some object, the entangled photons would be "loosed", actualized onto the target, illuminating said object, as the batteries discharged energy; but where-and-whenever no room object was present, the entangled photons would be "recalled", actualized back into the batteries, which would return to previous power levels.  In the inexpert estimations of this author, such "dark lights" might be the only cost-energy-effective means, of projecting "search-lights" into space, across cosmological distances; and advanced Aliens would presumably comprehend "cost-benefit analysis", only manifesting projected energy, where-and-when information gains exceeded energy losses.  Thus, advanced Aliens would not "glow star-bright", transmitting 'Their' own location information (negative gain), across the cosmos, at immense cost.  But with hypothesized "dark lights", suitably adapted, advanced Aliens could transmit telepathic communications-and-control signals, only to those places-and-times where gains warranted the immense energy costs, incurred when photons were "loosed" into targets, and those energies actually expended, from Alien "generators & batteries".  In all other circumstances, partially transmitted partial photons could be "recalled", actualized back into the "batteries & generators", without any energy expenditure.  Least speculatively, quantum entanglement might permit binary, "transmit / retain", signaling capability ("there when you're not looking, not when you are")¹.  

¹ If all Religious & Government personnel are "Divinized" by Divine Auras, then they are all telepathically possessed "avatars" of "God in heaven", interpreted as an advanced Alien.  Any failure, of the agents of Aliens, to detect those Aliens "Aura Signals", would be wryly unconvincing, logically.  "Second opinions" would presumably be "proscribed".  Perhaps advanced Aliens employ conventional signals, without hypothetical quantum manipulations, which are speculative, and ultimately extraneous, to the general gist, of "Bruno, Sagan, Scripture" ('They' Exist, 'They' are Godlike, 'They' have Super-Technologies capable of manifesting Scriptural Miracles & Magic).  Previous posts speculated "steerable signals".  Such are much more speculative, and so much much less plausible, than a known-to-be possible "transmit / retain" capability, which process ultimately occurs, in all entanglement experiments, when wave-functions "collapse", either "here" or "there".

[Widdekind]

"Allah, the Lord of exoplanets, in the Empire in space"

Perhaps tellingly, the Koranic expressions "Allah, the Lord of the worlds" and "the Kingdom of the heavens" can be recast, into modern American-English synonyms, as the above phrase¹.

¹ Energy is the core of every economy.  The earth global economy, generally; and the US economy, specifically; may be thralled, to known-to-be-Hostile-foreign-powers, acting in the Name, of "Allah, the Lord of exoplanets...in space".  Advanced Super-Aliens plausibly Exist, actually; plausibly are Hostile, actually; plausibly are Deceptive, actually; would, therefore, plausibly purport to be "the kindest, sweetest, gentlest, most Beneficent & Merciful Father-figure" that humans on earth have, out in space.

take the day off ?

Perhaps earth leaders could declare a one-day truce, for 21 December 2012 AD, during which all military activities would be suspended, by all countries.  If advanced Super-Aliens Exist, and have "drawn a line in the space-dust"; then humans must actively thwart Divinely scheduled Armageddon.  No visible force prevents the U.N. from mandating a one-day world-wide cessation of violence, against humans on earth, for any-and-all reasons.  Inexpertly, if "God in the heavens" is subtly escalating tensions, to increase violence on earth; then earnest de-escalatory actions could decrease violence on earth, and reduce the probability of triggering species suicide, on Maya 2012.



blind trust ?

5000 years ago, "God in heaven" effected the devastation of Sumer, the cradle of terrestrial civilization, with a Super-Flood; and later effected the "Balkanization" of Sumer, during the days of King Nimrod, who tried to build earth's then-highest sky-scraper high-rise building, pushing the limits of human civil engineering.  500 years ago, the same Divinity effected the conquest of Meso-America, employing on-world agents, who, for example, threw Emperor Montezuma off of his own balcony, in his own city.  Many other times throughout human history, Divine Manifestation has also been civilizational in scale & scope, appearing to definitively demonstrate the on-planet Super-Dominance, of non-terrestrial Authority.  How can other humans, then, "trust in God", when that "God in space" has wrought so much devastation down on earth ("God had your Emperor thrown from his own balcony; i trust wholeheartedly in that God") ?!    (Such certainly seems undiplomatic.)  Evidently, humans are "bewitched" by "God in heaven", and think nothing of human suffering on earth.   Widespread & ubiquitous oblivious non-compassion, for humans on earth; combined with blind trust, for "God in space"; could have catastrophic consequences, for the former, on Maya 2012.

[Widdekind]

discounting

According to this Alien allegation, advanced Super-Aliens can telepathically communicate to, and control, humans on earth; and, thereby, evoke, on earth, various forms of "value", with which to motivate & incentivize humans on earth.  If so, then, in effect, Super-Aliens can "ship gold to earth", with which to pay on-world collaborators.  In order to resist Super-Alien Domination, humans would have to agree, en masse, to discount those forms of "value" deriving from non-terrestrial sources.  For example, all forms of money associatable to "God in starry heaven" would have to be discounted, so as to reduce, and eliminate, non-terrestrial influence amongst mankind.  Yet, instead of "refusing the away team", many humans already "discount the home team", sacrificing on-world wealth not associated with Religious Authority, to display loyal allegiance to the same.  For example, people tithe income to Religious Cults, and shun (or even undermine) money from sources proscribed by Religious leaders.  Thus, the exact opposite of what would need to occur ("discounting the away team"), already routinely occurs ("discounting the home team").  If "God in starry heaven" actually Exists, then 'They' would be millions to billions of years more advanced than mankind; 'They' would be able to evoke enormous influences amongst mankind; the only human defense against the same, would be to agree, to psychologically refuse to yield to those Temptations, at all costs, by discounting them.  If, then, humans discount their own terrestriality, instead; then humans would be "doubly damned", and would not be predicted to psychologically resist submitting to Alien Authority (much less physically withstand Alien onslaught).



growling around the campfire

In analogy, this Alien allegation is like a group of people (humanity) seated around a campfire (earth) on a dark night amidst a dark forest (surrounding space).  Whilst hearing no growling from the woods (direct evidence of extra-terrestrials), people around the campfire, themselves, periodically begin hearing growling (psychic telepathic experiences), and growling themselves (Prophetic experiences), whilst attributing their bellowings to "the Wolves of the woods" (God in heaven).  If actual, then such experiences reflect Alien mind-targeted communications, from space, to earth, evoking in situ Alien propaganda broadcasts, through appropriate "mouth-pieces".



bad girls

Stereotypically, many western (young) women want to be "bad girls", in order to rebel, against "oppressive Religious Authority".  The fact, then, remains -- Religious Authority is psycho-actively Super-Dominant within their minds, Super-Motivating them to be "bad".  If "God in heaven" actually Exists, then 'They' are millions to billions of years more advanced than mankind; 'They' would not miscalculate or make mistakes; no effects originating from Divine Authority would be counter to 'Their' Will.  Ipso facto, western women, allowing their minds to be influenced, by Religious Authority, to be "bad", would be them obeying Orders, from non-human non-terrestrial other-worldly Authority, transmitted appropriately, so as to guarantee obedience.  Actual Super-Aliens would be predicted to be Hostile, to Order actions that were "evil" and "bad" for terrestrial targets, in order to undermine, sabotage, damage, and ultimately destroy, all terrestrial civilization.

[Widdekind]

"spaceship earth" is like a log in a lake

Adrift in space, earth can be considered a "natural space craft", having

• basic life-support systems (oxygen-producing photosynthesizes, carbon-cycle through biosphere)
  
• no propulsion
  
• no armor
  
• no weapons

Drifting like a derelict hulk, earth is (a little) like a log adrift (perhaps rolling around) in a lake (or river)¹.

¹ Advanced Aliens would presumably have Superior-to-natural artificial space craft.  Such "world ships" would presumably have internal power sources, propulsion systems, and armor & weapons as necessary, etc.  (Would Aliens bother to paint 'Their' hulls??)

"free advice" for a few ?

Throughout human history, "God(s) in starry heaven" have reportedly telepathically communicated information (voices, visions, dreams) to humans on earth; specifically, to a select few of "Chosen" elites, "here & there, now & then".  Those select few, allegedly advantaged by "intelligence information" from advanced, Super-Intelligent Super-Beings "from the heavens", have seemingly invariably (if ultimately, "after a while") manifested (Holy) War mongering (unprovoked aggression), conquest, subjugation, and pacification, of human populations, upon this planet.  Seemingly, "God in heaven" is selective in choosing the people, places, & times, whereat to dispense "free advice from space" -- seemingly to hostile, dominance-seeking persons, who, advantaged by Divine Intelligence, do in fact conquer, subdue, subjugate, & pacify terrestrial populations.  Again, "God in heaven" seemingly does not dispense "free advice" freely, but rather to specific people, in specific contexts, in order to manifest maximum anti-human aggression, control, pacification, i.e. Dominance.



"round down"

If foreign powers meddle in internal affairs, helping some locals, and harming others; then despite the "mixed messages", their overall intent can be inferred, as hostile.  If "God in heaven" meddles in human affairs on earth, promoting some humans, and demoting others; then 'Their' overall intent is hostility to earth.



"where are 'They' ?" (again)

Hypothetical non-glowing, non-blatant, non-obvious, advanced Alien space craft would be dark.  A "space empire" of such Superior-to-natural space craft might possibly resemble a naturally-occuring void, on cursory examination.  Not impossibly, an Alien "dark empire" could lurk as-yet-undetected, as a "gap" in the distribution of bright glowing natural stars, in our own galaxy.

Edited by Widdekind, 30 July 2012 - 02:04 AM.

[Widdekind]

space radio

On earth, current human SETI searches seemingly seek simple, single-frequency (monochromatic) "beacon" signals.  According to this Alien allegation, however, advanced extra-terrestrials are not trying to alert humans, to 'Their' Existence, much less physical location in space.  Instead, 'They' may have been broadcasting sophisticated telepathic signals, at earth, and into humans' heads & minds, for ages.  Such psycho-invasive-and-active signals could account, for human Religious (psychic, Prophetic) experiences, of "Communion with God in heaven", including voices, visions, & dreams, as reported by Supernaturalists, for ages.  Such mind-altering signals would more resemble broadband radio & TV, than simple "beacons".  Indeed, Supernaturalists themselves have compared "The Holy Spirit, emanating from God" to radio (previous posts); and co-occurring multiple-person psychic experiences as being "on the same frequency".


so, where the  are 'They' ?

The most powerful (prominent) Religious experiences, endured by humans to date, have affected the "Prophets" of the Abrahamic traditions, in and near modern Israel.  Other prominent psychic experiences, have affected Pharaohs of Egypt; and Priests of Meso-America.  All of those locations reside on the northern hemisphere of earth.  If all of those reported experiences could be specified, in space & time (including time of day); then each experience would "point" to the swath of sky, then overhead, above the humans on earth enduring the psychic & Prophetic experiences.  (Such assumes that earth blocks supposed space transmissions.)  If one particular patch of sky was overhead, for all known psychic & Prophetic experiences; then 'They' would plausibly Exist, far far away, in that general direction through space.  Inexpertly, that general direction would be somewhere in earth's northern sky, perhaps in the direction of Microscopium & Sculptor.


hear no Evil, see no Evil

Perhaps repetitively, in an era when "hearing no Evil & seeing no Evil" is The Law ("loose lips sink ships (and there's always a war on, by happenstance)"); pronouncements by Religious & Government Authorities, that "they haven't seen or heard anything from aliens", can be construed, as Diabolical humor.  Second opinions?

[Widdekind]

Foolish Trust ?

On earth today, hardened (cp. Pharaoh of the Exodus ?) skeptics assume the non-existence of aliens, because they trust whole-heartedly, in the "space surveillance" capacity, of current human space telescopes.  They psychologically self-identify, with the "first world" countries that developed & deployed those space telescopes; and then they "trust in their own strength".  Thereby, they psychologically (re-)assure themselves, that aliens do not existence, because "their strong first-rate space telescopes" have not warned them, of any space-based threats.  Meanwhile, 3000 years ago, "God in heaven" telepathically guided Israelite king David, into warning earth, not to trust in human strength, which is (allegedly) feeble & impotent, in comparison to the Super-Power, of "the Empire of the heavens":

I put no trust in my bow,
my sword does not bring me victory;

but You give us victory over our enemies,
You put our adversaries to shame.

King David, c.1000 BC (Psalm 44)

Trust in the Lord with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

King Solomon, c.950 BC (Proverbs 3)

Despite Divine Warning that "humans ain't got nothin'" and "don't trust your own equipment"¹; humans observe themselves, to have become "hardened of heart"; and to have become lulled, into complacency, for the maintenance of which psychological state, they then actively dis-acknowledging the possibility, of threat to "ooh-la-la earth", from (hypothetical) advanced space Super-Aliens.  Can any skeptic explain, wherefrom King David received his "guidance"; or why he attributed the same, to "God in heaven" ?  "Hubble to the rescue?"  The defense of earth star system, depends upon the Hubble space telescope?

¹ In the current estimation of this writer, "God in heaven" is actual, an Existing Super-Alien; Who is hostile, deceptive, misleading, and (thereby) destructive.  Whenever 'They' actually are factual, truthful statements few-and-far-between amount to "sting operations", designed only to lure unsuspecting humans into obedient submission; or, to comparatively advantage "the Chosen", who are lied to less, than all other humans, thereby being relatively "promoted" ("demoted less").  This writer tentatively accepts the actuality of the Existence of "Allah, the Lord of exoplanets...in a space Empire"; without accepting the overall factuality, of anything 'They' have ever transmitted to earthlings.  "God in heaven" has had 8000 years, since the days of Abel & Cain, to "clear up misunderstandings", amongst Middle Easterners.  If the cradles of human civilization had ever actually received helpful guidance, from Koranically-advanced Super-Aliens; then Eridu, Uruk, Nineveh, and Babylon would now stretch from the headwaters of the Tigris, to the mouth of the Euphrates; they would already operate off-world mines, via trans-planetary shipping businesses.  Instead, amidst alleged Super-natural meddling amongst mankind, only mis-understandings have arisen, between human populations enduring such meddlings.  Ipso facto, "God in heaven" has only ever mis-led humans; only mis-leadership can generate mis-understandings that fester into "conflict in the (mis-managed) work-place".  From the words received into the mind of the Prophet Muhammad, and thence recited from his mouth, "God in heaven" seems to mock mankind:

nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent an apostle (to give warning).  When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly.  How many generations have We destroyed after Noah

Surah 17

First, how many times can "God in heaven" actualize the "destruction of whole generations", before Religious leaders acknowledge, that "God in heaven", whilst actually being Super-Powerful, is also actually Super-Hostile?  (Answer: infinitely too many)  Second, how many times can 'They' Tempt elites to hate (Wrath, Pride) their commoner kinsfolk; and thereby Tempt those masses into hating (Pride, Envy) their "Chosen" elite kinsfolk; so that, psychologically, "everybody hates everybody else", so that the entire population psychologically "begs for" Divine Wrath to annihilate... the entire population?  Characteristically, "the Devil takes the Devil's due", only when Diabolical Super-Hostility is assented to, by the psychological submission, of all the targets, slated for annihilation -- "they all come to accept, that hostility in the form of _______ is 'ok'; then _______ occurs, and they all signed their own death warrants, with their own souls".  Thereby, "God in heaven" annihilates whole populations, after they themselves "beg for it".  According to this half-furry writer, "God in heaven" actually Exists; is a Super-Alien; is highly Hostile & Deceptive; has never demonstrated actual "net friendliness" to humans on earth, so much as once ever; has duped essentially all mankind into "codependent abused mindset", somehow contorting their minds into construing wars, plagues, famines, and hatred as "Fatherly Love and Beneficent Mercy".

In the absence of any legitimate "all clear", Aliens should be presumed to Exist; should be presumed Hostile; any indication of "non-terrestrial non-human other-worldly" influences, on earth, and/or amongst earthlings, should be swiftly reported; no influences arising therefrom should be allowed to be heeded; if they are heeded, they would be predicted to manifest, on earth, only "annihilations of whole generations".  Survey says?

End Game (another guess)

Hollywood directors seem knowledgeable and well-informed to this writer (cp. Wag the Dog).  Prima facie (and inexpertly), the name of the "Mad Max" movies is Numerologically encoded, and so Kabbalistically significant.  "Putting all the pieces in a pot, and stirring up a stew, to see what you get"; perhaps by December 2012 AD, the last psychological ("spiritual") resistance to "God in heaven" will have ended; at which point, on-world Religious leaders, having been guided into complete control of earth, will destroy the same¹, by activating on-world and near-world WMDs; plunging this planet into a "Terminator scenario", from which a few "Mad Max" survivors may emerge.  Then, "Biblically soon" thereafter, (some sort of) actual extra-terrestrial force might arrive in-star-system, and complete the destruction of earth.

¹ Perhaps humans will have psychologically yielded to various Temptations (Pride, Wrath, Greed, Lust), thereby psychologically assenting ("spiritually selling their souls") to de facto Hostile Divine Authority.  If so, then, at that point, "God in heaven", construed as an advanced Super-Alien, will have acquired local domestic terrestrial "authorization" for the acceptability, of "Divine Super-Hostility", in-star-system.  Then, "the Devil will take the Devil's due", directing on-world agents to "blow up the space-plane" that they will have "space hi-jacked", detonating the WMDs that they have already "rigged around the space-plane".

Edited by Widdekind, 02 August 2012 - 01:05 AM.

[Widdekind]

Holy War Mongering ?

Recently in Seattle, WA, acting in the Name of Islam & Allah, Muslims convened a public gathering, professing that Islam is "misunderstood".  Ipso facto, Muslims are propagandizing on God, attempting to "massage" the appearance of the Supernatural, amongst mankind, throughout human history.  According to Wisdom, "deeds trump words", and the Supernatural would best be judged, by the real effects of Supernaturalism; not by the rhetoric espoused by biased "salesmen" with clear logical conflicts of interest (in objectivity, that is).  Meanwhile, on the "Stormfront" website, seemingly "hawkish" and vaguely "Christian Identity" users on the board have, over the years, made comments like "if everybody else takes us down, then we will take down the world with us".  Meanwhile, conspiratorial connections between "Fascists" & "Catholics" can be construed.  And, according to the movie 5 Days of War, the Christian Church has ominous plans for Georgia and Russia.  In this writer's perception, Supernaturalist humans are willing & able, to deceive other humans, to the level, of "God"; they, collectively, have ominous plans; they have boasted about willingness & ability, to destroy earth (limited only by "necessity", imposable at Will, of yet other Supernaturalists, themselves part of the same pan-planetary international global cult complex, nominally enthralled to "God in starry heaven").  They seem to view "secrecy" as the (one and only) way to "success" and "ultimate victory".  Who knows?  This half-furry writer says "no secrets"; Supernaturalists say "secrets"; they all have stars on their flags & uniforms; they all nominally "do the work of God in heaven" and "obey the Will of The Almighty" amongst the stars.  Every advantage they have, over this writer, implicitly embodies the very self-same Authority, of "God in starry heaven" -- Who, seemingly, always appears to be the "more for less" easier option.  Hypothetical advanced Super-Aliens would always be able to manifest such influence.  Non-human non-terrestrial other-worldly authority should be presumed hostile; and resisted.  All those advocating submission, have stars over their heads, and/or claim to do "the work of God in heaven"...   Will people at least acknowledge, that "team God in starry heaven", has over-whelming asymmetric super-advantage... exactly as they would, if actually Divinely Guided, by actual super-advanced Super-Aliens?  "One time with 5 months before Doomsday" -- what other explanation is there, for a bunch of star-bedecked space cadets, claiming to act under "Orders from heaven", actually having pan-planetary super-dominance ("they don't form up, on Michael Romanov -- where are they now?? but they do fight for "the armies of the Red Star", etc." Or, "so, what exactly is wrong, with taking orders, only from 'two legs, two arms, and a head on top' -- humans seriously cannot "deliver the goods", like... "God in starry heaven"??  So, then, how many "goods" do humans on earth, want to "import" from their "Space Friends"??) ??  (The fact that nobody thinks, or takes threats seriously, ought to be viewed as another anomaly -- humans survived for hundreds of thousands of years, by never thinking??)  According to Supernaturalists, "God in heaven" is "Loving"; if so, then all the hatreds, of all the Holy Wars, that have murdered millions of humans, for thousands of years, have been "(Space) Friendly fire".  According, then, to Apocalyptic Prophesies of "Hell Fire" destroying earth on Doomsday, "God in heaven" can be "Friendlier" still -- and Supernaturalists seem to so advocate.



where there's The Will, there's The Way; where only a will, no way ?

Supernaturalists boast, that all terrestrial events, "gear together", to their perpetual (and accumulating) advantages (Romans 8).  If so, then "where there is The Will, of God in heaven; then there is The Way" to "success" and "ultimate victory".  Conversely, however, mere mortals often have their dreams shattered -- mere mortal will does not, necessarily, imply any way to success, whatsoever.  The ages-long perpetual-and-accumulating super-advantage, enjoyed by Supernaturalism (always The Will, always The Way), over against humans generally, can be construed as anomalous; and as evidence, of actual Divine Guidance, of on-world agents, of "God in heaven".  Biblically-advanced Super-Aliens, employing advanced space surveillance systems, would plausibly be able to reconnoiter earth (quarter million years ago); construct a Biblical Divine Plan, spanning tens of thousands of miles of space (earth) and a quarter million years of time ("homo erectus until today"); and perpetually "direct traffic", transmitting Divine Orders to particular people, at particular places & times, in order to gradually bring that Divine Plan to eventual fruition (+5 months).  In accordance to, and possible explanation of, Scriptural assertions, at any given place & time, humans "tapped" for "Divine Service" would perceive that "all things were working out well for The Plan", and that whilst they adhered to "The Will of God in heaven", that that Will always "wound its Way" through space & time, to "ultimate victory", over humans, who would plausibly be annihilated, in Apocalypse ("space hijackers destroy spaceship earth").  Meanwhile, natural humans, and their natural wills, being unguided, would only sometimes achieve success.  Ergo, the perpetual "super successfulness" of Supernaturalism, throughout human history, can be construed, as evidence, of actual Divine Guidance, of particular "Chosen" people, at particular places & times.  (Furthermore, any non-acknowledgement, of the same, could be construed, as Divine Deception ("hiding the obvious in plain sight").)  Actual space warfare would plausibly span immense-for-humans stretches of space & time.

Edited by Widdekind, 02 August 2012 - 03:59 AM.

[Widdekind]

tantrum vs. hardened skeptics

Seemingly, "stiff-necked callous heart-hardened" skeptics refuse to allow themselves, to become convinced, that either advanced Aliens could Exist; or that the "Great Spirit Gods of starry heaven" psychically perceived, by humans, throughout human history, could be 'They'.  For, skeptics are, instead, convinced of the indomitability of "Their Cause", and the "ultimate victory" of the same.  Skeptics cannot be concerned, about what could be proved right tomorrow (even when no evidence weighs against that hypothesis, and some evidence weighs for the same); when (social, political) might today Decrees against Alien hypotheses.  But, that might today represents the collective will, of whole societies, of millions to billions of humans on earth; and none of those humans knows (or cares) what could be proved right tomorrow.  Thereby, whole societies yield to group think, gambling their fates on psychological sensations of "safety in numbers" & "millions of earthlings cannot be wrong".  But none of those humans are reasoning -- psychological self-perceptions of "safety" amongst masses of humans, on earth, only represents actual security, against... other (and smaller) groups of humans, on earth.  Meanwhile, advanced Aliens would be capable of destroying earth, humans and all; and herding together, with doomed conspecifics, would (logically) be no defense.  Nevertheless, whole societies Decree, to themselves, that "Aliens cannot possibly Exist"; and then they Enforce their own Decrees, amongst themselves, with their own Authority ("thought police").  Thereby, they violate the warnings of "YHWH, God in heaven", to Kings David & Solomon 3000 years ago, that humans should never 'trust in themselves' (Psalm 44, Proverbs 3); without explaining Who "God in heaven" Is, or by what means "God in heaven" so communicated to humans on earth, ages ago.

Looking at such societies dispassionately, humans on earth gossip amongst themselves, until they psychologically reassure themselves; somehow, they feel (without reasoning) that they thereby shield themselves, from the rest of space, perhaps including "Allah, the Lord of the worlds... of the Empire of the heavens".  In the utter absence of reason, logic, thinking, rationality, flexibility in decision-making; skeptics appear to be "stiff-necked", "heart-hardened", and "calloused".  And also, Authority gives this writer no "badge"; gives "badges" to Authority's own; and Decrees trust in those self-same "badges".  Whole societies of humans seemingly have "sold their souls" on the biggest possible question -- Scripturally-advanced God-like Super-Aliens -- before the facts of the (nipped-in-the-bud-non-)case are in.  That cannot be construed as well-reasoned; and could be revealed to not be right tomorrow; today, might Decrees for no reasoning (with no good reason to do so).  Whole societies, of millions to billions of earthlings, actually agree to "turn off their brains", cease reasoning, and "just gamble & go for it"?  No humans find, to be bizarre or strange, that "shhh.... stop worrying... go back to sleep... their cannot be Aliens", is actually indomitably mighty, on earth, due to on-world Authorities, implicitly & explicitly referencing themselves & their Authority, in various but parallel ways, to "Divine God Beings from starry heaven"?  Were any humans reasoning, the fact that the on-world Authority of "God in heaven", is actually so indomitably mighty, weighs for the hypothesis, that Super-Aliens in space Exist, and are conquering earth, via advanced (if subtle) means.

For one more time -- the (reported) subtle & intermittent influences of "God in heaven", amongst mankind, around this world, for ages, communicating generally brief mind-encoded messages (voices, visions, dreams), seems perfectly consistent, with the requirements, of actual space warfare.  Interstellar distances are so vast, that transmission (and transportation) costs would be enormous.  Such costs could be minimized, and so overcome, by the strategy seemingly employed by "the God of Abraham in heaven", namely "plinking" at targets, transmitting brief & intermittent "pulses" of signals, to carefully chosen agents, at carefully chosen places & times, "here & there, from time to time", spread out over thousands of years; and, through those agents, gradually accumulating increasingly overwhelming on-world Authority & Dominance.  Seemingly plausibly, actual interstellar space warfare would best be waged with "low intensity, long duration" super-strategies, construable to "the God of Abraham in heaven".  On nearly no budget, this writer offers that there Exists an intermittent broadband, radio-to-microwave frequency, source, somewhere amidst the Microscopium and/or Sculptor constellations (perhaps modified by some sort of quantum entanglement "magick").  Or not, who knows?  But thousands of years, of Divinely Inspired Religious Holy War Mongering, without anybody even recognizing what has been happening the entire time, exactly resembles nearly total species-wide telepathic control, by remote Hostile Actors, sabotaging earth, for 'Their' remote advantage¹.

¹ "Great Spirit Gods in starry heaven like mankind, are fond of earth, and want to help humans... no, no, seriously" -- humanity actually "buys" that? Throughout human history, including today, Religious leaders have always seemed to get the same "mind messages", on their "psychic ear pieces":

attack attack attack

kill kill kill

slay slay slay

sabotage sabotage sabotage

subdue subdue subdue

dominate dominate dominate

What happens if i stand up and say, "uh, guys... no?"  Can i predict -- all those Divinely Guided Religious leaders would suddenly concentrate their simultaneous pan-planetary attentions, on me, and "vow Divine Curses" at me, in the Name of their "friendly fatherly beneficent merciful God-in-heaven buddy-of-theirs" ??  Logic, reasoning, thinking, pondering, wondering, speculating, & contemplating, are generally stronger, and safer, than "fools rush in".  Non-terrestrial, other-worldly, alien Beings would most plausibly be hostile; would very plausibly dupe humans, into perceiving otherwise.  To date, the two least likely possibilities are (1) there are no other Lifeforms anywhere else in space, none at all; (2) Alien lifeforms would like, care for, help, assist, benefit, or otherwise be "fond" of earthling 'space competitors'.  There might Exist Aliens; and if so, then 'They' would be presumed Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile....

"not for me, man, ha-ha"

"ok, fine... but, what happened to all the humans, who would have "got" that??"

[Widdekind]

"God in heaven" is a mis-manager ?

Wage workers are paid by the hour.  But, businesses are paid by the product.  Workers are mis-incentivized, to "drag their feet & take their time", when their businesses want them to "make widgets as quickly as possible".  If workers were paid by the product, then they would produce those products more quickly; workers could head home early, saving time; businesses could pay them a little less, saving money.  Everybody would "win".  Sleuthing out such "win-win" solutions makes everybody involved better off, and accrues respect & esteem to the "problem solver".

WIth that hypothetical business analogy in mind, "God in heaven" (interpreted as Super-Aliens) could benefit "God's Chosen" humans on earth, by (selective) management.  Employing advanced space surveillance, and planetary survey, systems; Super-Aliens could scan through human societies on earth; detect all of the "business inefficiencies"; and (selectively) "advise & counsel" particular people, towards particular "win-win" solutions.  By playing the role of "match-maker" and "business manager", Super-Aliens could (selectively) advantage those "Chosen" humans, whom 'They' Divinely Guided.  Even as business inefficiencies are costly, so Divinely Managed efficient enterprises would be (comparatively) super-profitable.  Thus, employing only a space-communications information channel, Super-Aliens could "manage" ("mis-manage") the affairs of "Chosen" ("Cursed") humans on earth; and so profit (impoverish) elite (marginalized) persons.  The "God of Abraham in heaven" can be construed, as an advanced Super-Alien, employing space communications capacity, to "manage" & "mis-manage" earthlings affairs, "giving free advice" to humans on earth; some good, profiting "Chosen" persons; some bad, costing "Cursed" persons.  As the acumen of human business managers can make or break companies; so Divine Management (Mis-Management) could make or break whole societies, and even species.  An information-only communications channel, from 'Them there' to 'humans here', could account for the dramatic discrepancies, in on-world wealth, between "Blessed" & "Cursed" persons.  And as humans pay successful CEOs high salaries, so humans would (gullibly, naively) pay "God in heaven" their "arms, legs, & souls", for the Divine Profits effected by Divine Management.  An information-only telepathic space communication capability, is sufficient, to account, both for reported psychic & Prophetic Religious experiences, e.g. of Divine Guidance; and for the immense divides, between "Blessed haves" and "Cursed have-nots", down on earth.  "God in heaven (Mis-)Manages earth", directing the (mis-)matching of earth assets & agents, simply, succinctly, parsimoniously, & plausibly, explains the relative / comparative on-world Super-Dominance of Religion(s) throughout human history.  Management does make or break businesses; Divine Guidance would make or break nations, species.  Vaguely, Divinely Guided "Chosen" persons would have advantages comparable to "insider trading", benefiting from esoteric secret private knowledge, at the expense of other humans on earth (to the advantage of Hostile Aliens in space).

All non-human, non-terrestrial, other-worldly "free advice" should be regarded, with the utmost fear, trepidation, & wariness; should be presumed Super-Deceptive; should be considered potentially planet & species grade risks.






tantrum vs. hardened skeptics

Seemingly, "stiff-necked callous heart-hardened" skeptics refuse to allow themselves, to become convinced, that either advanced Aliens could Exist; or that the "Great Spirit Gods of starry heaven" psychically perceived, by humans, throughout human history, could be 'They'.  For, skeptics are, instead, convinced of the indomitability of "Their Cause", and the "ultimate victory" of the same.  Skeptics cannot be concerned, about what could be proved right tomorrow (even when no evidence weighs against that hypothesis, and some evidence weighs for the same); when (social, political) might today Decrees against Alien hypotheses.  But, that might today represents the collective will, of whole societies, of millions to billions of humans on earth; and none of those humans knows (or cares) what could be proved right tomorrow.  Thereby, whole societies yield to group think, gambling their fates on psychological sensations of "safety in numbers" & "millions of earthlings cannot be wrong".  But none of those humans are reasoning -- psychological self-perceptions of "safety" amongst masses of humans, on earth, only represents actual security, against... other (and smaller) groups of humans, on earth.  Meanwhile, advanced Aliens would be capable of destroying earth, humans and all; and herding together, with doomed conspecifics, would (logically) be no defense.  Nevertheless, whole societies Decree, to themselves, that "Aliens cannot possibly Exist"; and then they Enforce their own Decrees, amongst themselves, with their own Authority ("thought police").  Thereby, they violate the warnings of "YHWH, God in heaven", to Kings David & Solomon 3000 years ago, that humans should never 'trust in themselves' (Psalm 44, Proverbs 3); without explaining Who "God in heaven" Is, or by what means "God in heaven" so communicated to humans on earth, ages ago.

Looking at such societies dispassionately, humans on earth gossip amongst themselves, until they psychologically reassure themselves; somehow, they feel (without reasoning) that they thereby shield themselves, from the rest of space, perhaps including "Allah, the Lord of the worlds... of the Empire of the heavens".  In the utter absence of reason, logic, thinking, rationality, flexibility in decision-making; skeptics appear to be "stiff-necked", "heart-hardened", and "calloused".  And also, Authority gives this writer no "badge"; gives "badges" to Authority's own; and Decrees trust in those self-same "badges".  Whole societies of humans seemingly have "sold their souls" on the biggest possible question -- Scripturally-advanced God-like Super-Aliens -- before the facts of the (nipped-in-the-bud-non-)case are in.  That cannot be construed as well-reasoned; and could be revealed to not be right tomorrow; today, might Decrees for no reasoning (with no good reason to do so).  Whole societies, of millions to billions of earthlings, actually agree to "turn off their brains", cease reasoning, and "just gamble & go for it"?  No humans find, to be bizarre or strange, that "shhh.... stop worrying... go back to sleep... their cannot be Aliens", is actually indomitably mighty, on earth, due to on-world Authorities, implicitly & explicitly referencing themselves & their Authority, in various but parallel ways, to "Divine God Beings from starry heaven"?  Were any humans reasoning, the fact that the on-world Authority of "God in heaven", is actually so indomitably mighty, weighs for the hypothesis, that Super-Aliens in space Exist, and are conquering earth, via advanced (if subtle) means.

For one more time -- the (reported) subtle & intermittent influences of "God in heaven", amongst mankind, around this world, for ages, communicating generally brief mind-encoded messages (voices, visions, dreams), seems perfectly consistent, with the requirements, of actual space warfare.  Interstellar distances are so vast, that transmission (and transportation) costs would be enormous.  Such costs could be minimized, and so overcome, by the strategy seemingly employed by "the God of Abraham in heaven", namely "plinking" at targets, transmitting brief & intermittent "pulses" of signals, to carefully chosen agents, at carefully chosen places & times, "here & there, from time to time", spread out over thousands of years; and, through those agents, gradually accumulating increasingly overwhelming on-world Authority & Dominance.  Seemingly plausibly, actual interstellar space warfare would best be waged with "low intensity, long duration" super-strategies, construable to "the God of Abraham in heaven".  On nearly no budget, this writer offers that there Exists an intermittent broadband, radio-to-microwave frequency, source, somewhere amidst the Microscopium and/or Sculptor constellations (perhaps modified by some sort of quantum entanglement "magick").  Or not, who knows?  But thousands of years, of Divinely Inspired Religious Holy War Mongering, without anybody even recognizing what has been happening the entire time, exactly resembles nearly total species-wide telepathic control, by remote Hostile Actors, sabotaging earth, for 'Their' remote advantage¹.

¹ "Great Spirit Gods in starry heaven like mankind, are fond of earth, and want to help humans... no, no, seriously" -- humanity actually "buys" that? Throughout human history, including today, Religious leaders have always seemed to get the same "mind messages", on their "psychic ear pieces":

attack attack attack

kill kill kill

slay slay slay

sabotage sabotage sabotage

subdue subdue subdue

dominate dominate dominate

What happens if i stand up and say, "uh, guys... no?"  Can i predict -- all those Divinely Guided Religious leaders would suddenly concentrate their simultaneous pan-planetary attentions, on me, and "vow Divine Curses" at me, in the Name of their "friendly fatherly beneficent merciful God-in-heaven buddy-of-theirs" ??  Logic, reasoning, thinking, pondering, wondering, speculating, & contemplating, are generally stronger, and safer, than "fools rush in".  Non-terrestrial, other-worldly, alien Beings would most plausibly be hostile; would very plausibly dupe humans, into perceiving otherwise.  To date, the two least likely possibilities are (1) there are no other Lifeforms anywhere else in space, none at all; (2) Alien lifeforms would like, care for, help, assist, benefit, or otherwise be "fond" of earthling 'space competitors'.  There might Exist Aliens; and if so, then 'They' would be presumed Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile, Hostile....

"not for me, man, ha-ha"

"ok, fine... but, what happened to all the humans, who would have "got" that??"

Edited by Widdekind, 04 August 2012 - 02:24 AM.

[Widdekind]

evil capitalist imperialist infidel takes "line item veto" to Holy Koran ?

Muslims, allowing their human minds, on earth, to be influenced, by non-human non-terrestrial "Divinity in the heavens", could plausibly perceive, that this writer is "cherry picking" Holy Scriptures for fragments of phrases supporting this Alien allegation ("Allah Is a Super-Alien"), whilst "conveniently" discarding others.  Such Accusations are non-logical, and non-rational¹.  Instead, this Alien allegation is a "structured speculation", that admits no "slack" or "wiggling room":

• Bruno -- aliens plausibly exist
  
• Sagan -- Super-Aliens would be "God" like
  
• Scripture -- "God in heaven" has communicated intelligible & meaningful messages, to mankind on earth, for ages
  
• logic -- non-human, non-terrestrial, other-worldly Aliens would be presumed:
  
  • Powerful
    
  • Hostile, Deceptive²

Thereafter, all reports, of paranormal, Supranatural, phenomena (psychic & Prophetic Religious experiences), are yielded human-maximum scrutiny, for all indications, of Power; and Hostility, Deception.  For example, if advanced Aliens transmitted communications to the Prophet Muhammad, in Arabia, 1400 years ago; then 'They' are immensely Powerful, already capable long long ago, of transmitting super-long-range space communications, adapted to earthlings' "own" minds, which already arrived at earth long ago.  Middle Easterners cannot claim to be ignorant, of politicians, and their well-practiced arsenal of "platitudes" ("nice shirt, like your tie").  Alien Power is already implied, in an Alien contact, to humans (Muhammad) on earth (Arabia).  So, further claims of "Allah" being "Lord of worlds... of an Empire of heaven" are already implied, in the original contact event; their restatements are repetitious Boasts (not brags), but not new information, much less new and true information.  If anything, advanced Aliens would be even more Powerful than "planet world grade"; if anything, "Allah" Deceptively hides the true extent of 'Their' Power from humans, without "revealing anything, much less for free"; even as human politicians, on earth -- typically attributing their on-world wealth, and actions, to "God in heaven" -- also mask their money, from others.  "Allah is the Lord of worlds" is a platitude, already implied by the actuality of 'Their' telepathic transmissions to Muhammad, that reveals nothing new; and which (seemingly) nevertheless successfully accrues political clout amongst mankind on earth.  Evidently, "Allah" is a consummate politician, knowing how to "read" humans; and how to tell them "sweet nothings", that those humans enjoy hearing so much, that they "vote for Allah as pan-planetary Governor".  All of the aforesaid is logically construable, as evidence, for the Power, Awareness, and influence of advanced Aliens, amongst mankind, on earth, for ages (via advanced 'space radio'); as well as 'Their' Deceptiveness, and Hostility.

Advanced Aliens would be Powerful.  All reports of "messages" from "God(s) in heaven", throughout human history on earth, can be construed, as evidence of advanced Aliens meddling in human affairs.  Such "contact events" would immediately imply Alien Power; repetitious Boastings about that Power could not, then, be false.  From all reports of Religious experiences (psychic, Prophetic; oral, written) amongst mankind, throughout human history on earth; all "Power Boastings" could not be false (unless they be Deceptive understatements), and so can be tentatively accepted as true, to the same degree, as acceptance of those Religious "contact" events themselves.  Similarly, every hint of Hostility ('They' have destroyed so many "whole generations" of humans, on earth, since the last Great Cataclysm 5000 years ago, that even 'They' have stopped counting, per Surah 17) should be presumed; never dismissed; always scrutinized; always accepted as true, to the same degree, as acceptance of the original Religious "contact" events themselves.  So, all claims, attributed to "God in heaven", of Power; of Hostility, Deception; are implied; and presumed; in those original "contact" events.  And so, those claims can be culled from Supernatural traditions, via "line item acceptance", according to the logic of the ancient philosopher Seneca, "i shall never fail to quote a bad author, when the line is good".

Nevertheless, Middle Easterners cannot claim ignorance, of "velvet gloves over mailed fists"; of "sugar coatings over poisoned pills".  That "God in heaven" has truthfully (non-falsely) Boasted about 'Their' Power; and even revealed some of 'Their' Hostility & Deception; does not imply that any other statements "must" also be true.  To this writer, the Holy Koran seems summarizable as:

God in heaven is Powerful

Power

Boast

Power

nice tie

nice shirt

you're special

you're nifty

you're good enough, smart enough, people ought to like you

Destruction (of cities)

Destruction (of whole generations)

Hostility (to humans on earth, who are evil & bad)

nice tie

nice shirt

you're special

you're nifty

God is Powerful

God Boasts

All assertions of non-Hostility are plausibly Deception; merely "means to The End", of humanity, and earth.  Any acceptance, of actual Alien Hostility ("poison"), due to Alien Deception ("sugar coating"), would presumably result in massive human casualties (millions of casualties in the Jihad-Crusades of a thousand years ago).

¹ Perhaps, however, instructive, for understanding how 'They' manipulate the minds of mankind.
² Perhaps Middle Easterners could imagine landing on a remote alien world, and exploring an alien jungle.  If Middle Easterners encountered any indication of alien lifeforms "lurking & growling in the shadows"... would Middle Easterners presume those alien lifeforms... to be friendly, cuddly, cute, warm, affectionate?  And if Middle Easterners would be wary, of primitive planet-bound alien "lion tiger panther crocodiles"... how much more should they be wary, of Superior-to-natural advanced Super-Aliens, of "God" like Power?  If Middle Easterners would sense no kinship with primitive aliens, then that they do, to advanced Super-Aliens, would immediately imply some sort of extreme telepathic/psychic mind manipulations, from the latter.  All such influences should be presumed Hostile, Deceptive.

Edited by Widdekind, 04 August 2012 - 05:29 PM.

[Widdekind]

terra delenda este ?

To date, "God in heaven" has manifested the collapses, of numerous human civilizations on earth... in such manners, that they crumbled quietly into dilapidation & dust, overblown by sand dunes, and overgrown by vegetation.  If "God in heaven" Exists, then (presumably) all that 'They' effect, on earth, is a de facto "message", to earthlings.  So, 'Their' messages to mankind have not been "blast human cities with bombs that leave huge & permanent craters in earth's crust"; but rather "let the quietly fade away", even as Sumer, Egypt, cuneiform, & hieroglyphs all faded from humans' hearts & minds, for thousands of years.  And so, the "message" to mankind seems to be "terra delenda este", i.e. humanity will (ultimately) "fade away", and earth star-sytem will be "overblown by space-dust"; as "God in heaven" long ago ceased counting all the "whole generations" of humans 'They' have already annihilated (Surah 17), so 'They' will (ultimately) purge even 'Their' data-registers of the last records of humanity's existence, anywhere, in space-time -- terrestrial civilization is not worthy of space, even on a "hard-drive" or "memory card".




"simulate & influence" ?

If advanced Aliens space-surveyed earth ages ago; and if They then constructed a sophisticated computer simulation of earth; then, thereafter, They could plausibly stop transmitting "surveillance signals" to earth, relying instead upon their accurate computer simulation of earth.  Monitoring Their simulated earth "there", They could plausibly transmit intermittent "update & telepathy signals" to earth, according to Their "Prophesy-grade Planned Schedule".  Thereby, advanced Aliens could plausibly maintain accurate & nuanced earth Awareness, without maintaining any continuous signal to earth.  Such a "guess / check / transmit" procedure (for lack of better words) would be much more difficult to detect, in earth's skies, than any continuous "paint earth in a space spotlight" procedure.  Alien signals to earth could be intermittent, and difficult to predict, or intercept.



stimulus... response ?

Reportedly, human Religious leaders on earth are Divinely Guided, by an Aura (Shekinah), emanated from "God in heaven", which can kill humans subjected to the same (Ananias & Sapphira, Acts 5).  Thus, the telepathic psychic control, of human Religious leaders on earth, by "God in heaven", is extreme.  Such explains the "unyielding adamant indomitable insistence" evidenced by (all of the various) Religious adherents, for furthering "Divine Will", for "earth-world Domination" ("The WIll is The Way for earth", ending in Apocalyptic annihilation).  For example, ancient Roman officials were perplexed by Christians' adamant anti-sociality, unto martyrdom ("please return to your right minds", cited in PPs).  Whereas Divine Will is non-dominatable, all humanity is utterly dominatable:

• "God in heaven" (Super-Aliens) insist Their Will into ("stand into") human affairs on earth, via advanced space "telepathic" communications, from "Them there" to "humans here"
  
• particular people, at particular places & times, "submit their souls" to "God in heaven", yielding their psyches to remote control
  
• they are thereby "Divinely Guided", promoted over their former peers, by the "Divine Profits" derived from "Divine Management" of their worldly affairs (presumably, they perceive those profits as payments for their psychological submission)
  
• they become Religious leaders, and insist Divine WIll into ("stand into") human affairs on earth
  
• most other humans submit to Religious Authority
  
• some other humans, refusing, are eliminated
  
• "earth-world Domination", to "God in heaven", advances
  
• repeat

In analogy, Religious leaders are (allegedly) like football quarterbacks, taking orders from "Coach way over on the far sidelines".  At long last, after about a quarter million years, of escalating Religious Domination amongst mankind, until today, "earth-world Domination" may have reached Apocalyptic "Maya 2012" proportions:

stimulus -- telepathic commands from Hostile & Deceptive advanced Aliens ("God in heaven")

response (Religious leaders) -- "bow down & submit, to Domination, Subjugation, Pacification"

response (widdy) -- "... and, then, Apocalyptic annihilation, too?  Instead, how about, 'no' ?"

humans on earth cannot claim to be "connected to the Space Mafia", without so being, on pain of death (Ananias & Sapphira, Acts 5).  Without dying, wealthy business leaders routinely claim to be "doing the Work of God [in heaven]" (Casino Jack, movie).  Then, from amidst the same milieu, they promote "Guns, Oil, Drugs (G.O.D.)".  Guns murder humans on earth, Drugs destroy their minds & lives; Oil is promoted at the mutual expense of "alternative energies", ultimately based on nuclear sources (terrestrial fission reactors, solar fusion power), which are millions of times more efficient, and which do not contribute to earth-global warming.  If humans on earth "insist" on doing the "Work of God in heaven", can they at least stop mocking the bedrugged minds of stupefied mankind, by claiming that "Divine Will" is "Beneficial, Merciful, & Fatherly"; when, in blatant flagrant fact, "God in heaven" is Hostile, destructive, annihilatory ?  Not even...??  Has anybody (else) tried to imagine, how earthlings (would) look, to remote Aliens, far far away, "Lording over worlds, from Their Empire in the heavens" ??  If humans on earth claim to be doing the "Work of God in heaven", and do not then die on the spot, then nobody need listen to any further sounds flowing from their mouths, but only "observe them on their rounds, day to day".  Deeds trumping words, reality revealed despite rhetoric, the actual "Will of God in heaven" is revealed; and, so revealed, is perfectly plausibly, and easily construably, attributable to advanced, Hostile, Deceptive, Aliens, Existing out in "the heavens".  Do not others, who Dominate the society to which this writer is subject, often say, "the Devil always gets the Devil's due" ?  This writer wishes that logic & reason were esteemed in society; that having failed, for society to at least recognize, that nobody anywhere, actually esteems, logic & reasoning -- not on a Divinely-Dominated world, whereon "humans cannot have two Masters", not both Greed/Lust/etc., and logic/reasoning.  On earth, nobody has been thinking, for a long long time...  Without fore-thought; without second-thought; and, now, without even after-thought, humans submit "their" earth, to "God in heaven" ??

Edited by Widdekind, 04 August 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[Widdekind]

deleverage by December ?

If advanced Aliens have influenced humans through Religions on earth; then the tradition of "the Devil gets the Devil's due" could possibly imply, that if humanity is dominated, by Temptations, on Maya 2012; then humanity will incur Divine Wrath, by some sophisticated & advanced means.


wargaming "God vs. humans"

Adapting this Alien allegation, to a wargame, the "human player" would suffer several severe disadvantages.  First, all human groups are, and always have been, Dominated by Religious (Spiritual) leaders -- all of whom are, and always have been, agents of the Adversary.  Thus, the "human player" would be forced to accept "advice, counsel, & influence", ultimately if indirectly, from the Adversary.  Moreover, the "human player" would lack pan-species, pan-planetary, "global humanity" unity; human forces would be divided into disjoint ethnic & cultural groups.  Whereas, the Adversary could always actuate any, and even all, human groups (through their Religious leaders), worldwide, according to subtle super-strategems.  The "human player" would never be able to recognize, that global Religion amounts to a "Great Beast", capable of Supernaturally animating potentially all of mankind, in concurrent co-occurring collaborations, which humans might not be allowed to recognize -- especially because they would be, de facto, Deceived by their "own" Religious leaders.

For particular example, Czar Peter Romanov tried to modernize Russia, in the 1700s AD.  Yet, according to popular portrayal, he was resisted by his "own" Church, whose Church-bells he had to confiscate, in order to cast the cannons he required, for Russia's national security.  And indeed today, the naval fleets begun by Czar Peter, now rust in port, due to similar processes; according to popular portrayals (Carlos movie), Islam undermined (Soviet) Russia after the 1970s AD.  If so, then Russia has been persistently opposed, for centuries, by various on-world agents, domestic & foreign, acting according to the Will, of "God in heaven", construable as Super-Aliens, Hostile to the emergence, of advanced terrestrial civilization(s).  Muslims, having been more Divinely Guided, allowed themselves to become the on-world "instruments of Divine Wrath", from Hostile Aliens in space, against ignorant terrestrial targets.  Muslims are, presumably, Proud to have been the agents of that Wrath, effected by sophisticated stratagems of Deception.  Ipso facto, Muslims cannot deny (with logical legitimacy) that the "One-and-Only-God in heaven" is "The God" of Wrath, Pride, Deception, Who even employs traitors & collaborators against the Doomed.  Meanwhile, the same Czar Peter also waged war, against Sweden, ultimately defeating the same.  Thus, Czar Peter himself was the "instrument of Divine Wrath" against Sweden, whom he out-Deceived, presumably boosting "his" Pride, too.  Ipso facto, Czar Peter, and his Christian counselors, cannot deny (with logical legitimacy) that "God in heaven" is "The God" of Wrath, Pride, Deception, and war (against earthlings).  Thus, this particular example reveals, how all humans have allowed "The Devil into their hearts & minds"¹, for Whom they Greedily seek after worldly gain, through war & Deception, manifesting Wrath, motivated by Pride; and how "God in heaven" thereby employs people to destroy other (less Guided, more Cursed) humans, before they themselves are destroyed by yet other (more Guided, more Blessed) humans.  The entire time, "God in heaven" deflects blame, for wars on earth, onto the earthlings Tempted into waging those wars; thereby "They keep Their hands [sic] clean" by "assassinating assassins".  Moreover, as more faithful followers (more Guided, more Blessed) are promoted over other humans (less Guided, more Cursed), Divine Will grows stronger on earth; war, Deception, & Wrath escalate, Pride & Greed soar.  And now the date is (Maya) 2012 AD (as it happens).

¹ The rock band INXS does have a song "Devil Inside", having the refrain "every single one of us, the Devil inside".  When seen in others, all humans recognize that Divinized humans are Demonized.  So, Muslims report that Catholics are Demonized, et vice versa.  But there Exists only One God.  All humans allow themselves to be Deceived, all becoming Demonized, and all destroying terrestrial targets for "God in heaven", all the while all of them simultaneously perceiving something "good" about advancing Divine Demonic Wrath, from "God in heaven", down onto earth.  All humans interface with the same One God; all humans have the same Religious experiences; all humans manifest Super-motivated Divine Demonic Wrath, against others; all humans perceive themselves to euphorically blessed, and to be advancing towards some utopian dream.  Alien influences, telepathic & otherwise, could account for observed human behaviors, and outcomes of human political struggles.

"Chosen" humans may be able to Deceive "Cursed" humans, by Divine Leadership (and mis-Leadership)¹.  But humans have never Deceived any actually-Existing "God in heaven".  Do humans also actually Deceive "their own selves", into denying, that "The One-and-Only God in heaven", "YHWH Who Is, and always has been, all of the Gods (Eloh'im) amongst mankind", is a "God" of war, Wrath, & Deception?  And if "God in heaven" brings war to, and onto, earth; do humans actually remain Deceived, as to the (blatant, obvious, flagrant) Hostile Intent implied thereby?  And so, humans actually want Divine Wrath, brought to, and even onto, "their" world?  Those are the kinds of questions that seem plainly implied, to this writer.

¹ In the history of humanity to date, no human polity has ever, in the end, out-Deceived the on-world agents of "God in heaven", e.g. Soviet Russia defeated by Catholics (Poland) & Muslims (Afghanistan) in the 1980s AD. If Super-Aliens Exist, then They have the most advanced Super-Intelligence Super-Apparatus in this sector of space.  To Super-Aliens, all humanity would be an "open book"; all humans would live in "glass houses".  The only possible "good" any Okhrana would do, for any Romanov, would be to make the Romanovs look foolish & incompetent, thereby "vetting" the Divine Guidance of the on-world collaborators of The Adversary, Whose Existence is implicitly denied, every time humans try to hide information; if humans accepted the Existence of Super-Aliens, then humans would accept, that They could uncover any human secrets, and inform Their on-world agents, on any need-to-know basis; and humans would then cease attempting to "Deceive God in heaven", including Their on-world collaborator agents.  In 70 AD, general Vespasian actually did defeat Supernaturalist agents, by simply walking south towards Jerusalem, with a larger army, employing no strategies or deceptions whatsoever.  In the Presence of actual Super-Aliens, only "all brawn, no brain" ("Vespasian, T-34s, and maybe Sturmgeschutz'") non-strategies would be predicted to succeed (and then only with larger military mass), against any Divinely Guided on-world collaborator agents.  Conversely, all employments of Deception & secrecy would, ultimately, play straight into the "forehand" [sic] of "God in heaven", Who would therefore be predicted to Guide humanity, towards increasing reliance, on said secrecy & Deception.  Whilst wide-open earthlings live in "glass houses" drifting in space, any & all humans ever advocating secrecy & Deception, against earthlings, are advocating hiding information from humans on earth; whilst all such information remains revealed, to "God in heaven".  Ipso facto, such humans are advocating differentially advantaging "God in heaven", over humans on earth.  Ipso facto, such humans are collaborator agents of "God in heaven"; they would be predicted to attribute their on-world wealth to (various statements of) "God in starry heaven"; they would be predicted to attempt to "hijack earth", to Dominate & Pacify earthling populations, to submit earth, to "God in heaven" (remote Super-Aliens); and to Deceive everybody, in their pursuit of "Divine Will" and the "Work of God".  

Super-Aliens would presumably be Hostile.  Any yielding to, or acceptance of, any influences, of any kinds or sorts, deriving from Them, would be predicted to result, in massive destructions & casualties on earth; would be predicted to oppose any human resistance -- especially including any psychological human care or compassion for victims of Divine Wrath, "the mind being 'war one'".  Divine Temptations would presumably be difficult to deny; the same would, of human necessity, have to be denied, anyway.  Failure to do so would presumably result, ultimately, in planet & species grade cataclysms.  In analogy, "God's Gold" would only motivate "God's Will"; and "God's Will" would presumably be Hostile, to earth.  Divine Will, for Domination, unto Apocalyptic cataclysms, would "have" to be denied, e.g. "i guess i look stupid... but, anyway, "no", all the same".  If a sufficient quorum of humans refused Divine Wrathful Will, then some humans might avoid Divinely Mandated "species suicide"; and compel "God in heaven", to destroy earth, directly, with Their own super-weaponry, projected to earth star system, at Their own super-expense.

[Widdekind]

humans have the transcripts

2000 years ago, Jesus of Nazareth, reportedly speaking under "Divine Guidance from God in heaven", warned humans against disregarding reported "Prophetic Contact events", of the same "God in heaven", to humans on earth, over the ages:

‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them...  If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead' (Luke 16)

Today, humans do not have "live video recordings" of various humans experiencing "psychic Contact" from "God in heaven".  But, humans do have the transcripts (Holy Scripture).  The existence of transcripts, of reported telepathic Contacts, to humans on earth, from Super-Intelligent Super-Beings "from heaven", carefully handed down for ages, logically implies that the reported original Contact experiences, were "profound enough to be remembered, for ages".  On earth, humans have the transcripts, of telepathic Contacts, from Super-Intelligent Super-Beings "from heaven", communicating to humans meaningful & intelligible (not necessarily truthful) messages; evidently accompanied by profound, psychically-perceived, "razzle dazzle", whose collective memory has endured for ages.  So, who now denies, that humans "have space neighbors", and that earth resides "within cosmic ear-shot" (yes 'They' can talk to humans on earth) of the same¹?  (All Super-Aliens should be presumed Hostile; all Super-Alien communications should be presumed meddlesome & Deceptive; "God in heaven supports some, but not others" is evidence, of meddlesome Hostility.)

¹ Based on Surah 17 of the Holy Koran, this writer perceives a "prime directive", according to which, 'They' evoke the voicing of "words of warning", through the minds-and-mouths of telepathically manipulated "Prophets", in intelligible & meaningful manner.  Then, once "fair warning" has been spoken aloud, to (terrestrial) targets, "all bets are off".  Meanwhile, whilst "fair warning" is sounded, "nobody ever listens"; all humans have "one too many excuses" amidst their minds, as to why "Divine Wrath from heaven" somehow "could not" befall them.  Evidently, common excuses include "God only hates those humans, over yonder".  The (hypothesized) Super-Aliens do (induce the) issue of "fair warning"; 'They' do not actually "stay 'Their' hand [sic]".  Any and all Hostility, directed from space, to anywhere on earth, should be recognized as Hostility.  Evidently, humans "hearts, minds, & souls" are so filled with Wrath, that they actually "welcome" the Hostility, to earth, and onto terrestrial targets.  By such means, "The Devil in heaven" destroys 'Their' adversaries, who "open the door for 'Them'"; 'They' induce 'Their' adversaries to "welcome & beg for" Doomed destruction.  Such "impotent fair warning" is the extent, and limit, of "Alien prime directive", perceived by this writer; evidently, by the time 'They' (induce the) issue of "fair warning", humans on earth have already yielded & submitted their souls, to Divine Wrath, against fellow humans; the issue of "fair warning" is "proof in the pudding" that Divine Wrath has already been welcomed to earth, onto terrestrial targets.  "The Devil in heaven" is only limited, by 'Their' own Will; evidently, 'They' limit themselves, according to a "prime directive", by which 'They' require 'Themselves' to first evoke the welcoming of 'Their' Wrath.  Then, once 'Their' Wrath "has been begged for", 'They' effect the destruction of (terrestrial) targets, seemingly saying "as you yourselves wish".  The (hypothesized) Super-Aliens "toy around with" 'Their' targets, trying to trick them, into hating themselves, so that the targets own wills align with Alien Divine Will, at which time what Wrath was welcomed (to earth) is effected.  Is requesting, or accepting & receiving, non-human non-terrestrial other-worldly influences, against humans on earth, legitimate?  Evidently, "what humans wish for, they shall receive"... earth of, by, and for earthlings?  (No?  Seriously no?  Submit earth, to non-human, non-terrestrial, alien-ating & in-human-e "for some" influences?  "Blah blah blah... yada yada yada... when the politicians finally get down to their points, 'earth Submitted to non-terrestrial Domination'" ?  Such is not bogus?  humans ask to receive the Domination, of "their" species?  Can a "voice vote" be called for?  Can those humans, who themselves have stated publicly, that they "do the Work of God"; and who themselves perceive "all things going as Planned"; and who themselves perceive that they have derived on-world wealth from "Divine Blessings"; can those humans acknowledge, that they who are evidently "Divinely Guided", and so deeply influenced by "God in heaven", are the only humans on earth, who perceive "God in heaven" as non-Hostile?  Can they who are deeply influenced by "God in heaven" acknowledge, that "their" minds may not be "their" own; and that "God in heaven" may have Deceived them?  Prima facie, those humans who are most "under the influence"... are least concerned... nobody gets it?)

self defense

Arguing from word meanings, societies that do not support self defense ("honor culture"), may not support soul defense, and may be prone to, or have been proned to, submission, without resistance.

Edited by Widdekind, 07 August 2012 - 09:25 AM.

[Widdekind]

According to the HBO docudrama Recount, during the prolonged 2000 AD Florida voting process, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris had a profound psychic experience, of self-identification, with Biblical Queen Esther, leading her people to freedom.  Throughout human history, human leaders on earth have claimed to receive guidance & instructions, from "God in heaven".  Then-Governor George Bush, for whom Katherine Harris had campaigned, won the election; leading to 9/11 (possibly implying Maya [9+11=]2012).




According to anthropology, the role of Religion in human societies has increased through time.  In primitive societies, Religion is weaker; in modern societies, Religion is stronger.  Arguably, Religious experiences have (generally) increased in intensity, over the past several thousand years, from Abraham 4000 years ago, to Jesus the Messiah 2000 years ago, to Muhammad the Prophet 1400 years ago.  If the "Divine Presence" (Aura, Shekinah) bathing earth, and "Chosen" humans on earth, has been (generally) strengthening over the ages; then perhaps the hypothesized Alien telepathy transmitter has been approaching earth star-system, like a "planet-seeking space missile", with a psychoactive telepathy transmitter on the "warhead", which induces targets to "move to target coordinates, and then eat, drink & be merry".  Quantum mechanically, matter is non-dispersive; material bodies persist indefinitely, without spreading out, as energy tends to do.  If Aliens have propagated some material "space missile" towards earth, then 'They' they would be propagating "concentrated mass-energy" towards earth.  Presumably, 'They' would send the smallest possible "space missile" capable of scouring the surface of earth, and annihilating the earth biosphere ("photon-torpedo with a planet-yield micro-nova warhead").




If Aliens are evoking "space war" onto earth, via advanced space communications, then the Super-animated psychic state of "Wrath" (unprovoked aggression) would presumably be the "end", since all war is aggression; other Super-animated psychic states, e.g. of "Pride", "Lust", "Greed", "Envy", would presumably be "means" psychically supporting said "end", i.e. a sort of "psychic logistics" motivating & maintaining Alien unprovoked aggressive Super-Hostility, on earth.  Wisdom warns, "pushed around gets pushed around"; and "yield an inch, yield a mile".  If "Wrath" is the primary psychological aim of aggressive Aliens; then all other "Deadly Sins" are merely means of "selling" unprovoked Alien aggression (Wrath) amongst mankind, like a "psychic scalp-price" dispensed into humans' hearts & minds (directly, telepathically; indirectly, via on-world agents), for attacking terrestrial targets.

[Widdekind]

According to the HBO docudrama Recount, during the prolonged 2000 AD Florida voting process, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris had a profound psychic experience, of self-identification, with Biblical Queen Esther, leading her people to freedom.  Throughout human history, human leaders on earth have claimed to receive guidance & instructions, from "God in heaven".  Then-Governor George Bush, for whom Katherine Harris had campaigned, won the election; leading to 9/11 (possibly implying Maya [9+11=]2012).




According to anthropology, the role of Religion in human societies has increased through time.  In primitive societies, Religion is weaker; in modern societies, Religion is stronger.  Arguably, Religious experiences have (generally) increased in intensity, over the past several thousand years, from Abraham 4000 years ago, to Jesus the Messiah 2000 years ago, to Muhammad the Prophet 1400 years ago.  If the "Divine Presence" (Aura, Shekinah) bathing earth, and "Chosen" humans on earth, has been (generally) strengthening over the ages; then perhaps the hypothesized Alien telepathy transmitter has been approaching earth star-system, like a "planet-seeking space missile", with a psychoactive telepathy transmitter on the "warhead", which induces targets to "move to target coordinates, and then eat, drink & be merry".  Quantum mechanically, matter is non-dispersive; material bodies persist indefinitely, without spreading out, as energy tends to do.  If Aliens have propagated some material "space missile" towards earth, then 'They' they would be propagating "concentrated mass-energy" towards earth.  Presumably, 'They' would send the smallest possible "space missile" capable of scouring the surface of earth, and annihilating the earth biosphere ("photon-torpedo with a planet-yield micro-nova warhead").




If Aliens are evoking "space war" onto earth, via advanced space communications, then the Super-animated psychic state of "Wrath" (unprovoked aggression) would presumably be the "end", since all war is aggression; other Super-animated psychic states, e.g. of "Pride", "Lust", "Greed", "Envy", would presumably be "means" psychically supporting said "end", i.e. a sort of "psychic logistics" motivating & maintaining Alien unprovoked aggressive Super-Hostility, on earth.  Wisdom warns, "pushed around gets pushed around"; and "yield an inch, yield a mile".  If "Wrath" is the primary psychological aim of aggressive Aliens; then all other "Deadly Sins" are merely means of "selling" unprovoked Alien aggression (Wrath) amongst mankind, like a "psychic scalp-price" dispensed into humans' hearts & minds (directly, telepathically; indirectly, via on-world agents), for attacking terrestrial targets.