[tinieblas]

I won't rule out electromagnetism, I think there is a definate element of EM interferance to these phenomena but I got with a combination of Matt's and Maximal's explainations, although not entirely. I will explain now how.

I occasionally experience what I can only call a static discharge; I can be sitting there and feel a tightening of my skin and then a sound which is only describable as a "crack" or buzz of electricity and then feel a burst of electricity crack out from me. I have heard such a noise described as similar to the buzz of a Star Wars lightsabre...generation and then emission. I have also encountered an apparition which seemed to be made entirely of static electricity........

One point of interest; I have heard and been told by a doctor that my body temperature is a fraction of a degree to a degree higher than normal; the result being that I did not truly suffer from acne as a teenager and tend not to be bothered by the cold that much...

Anyone heard of these electrical discharges or have an explaination for them? It's not exactly large scale voltage (or amperage) here, never smelled ozone or burned anything! lol

[G3N0M3]

Actually about the EMF, I had ended up linking various sites in a thread dedicated to them so that should be sufficient enough reading for you guys, here I'll go grab a link for it:
http://www.unexplain...howtopic=167999

As for the connection between EM and ghosts, or other phenomena on that level. Of course, thats why they use many different devices to measure many different waves, electromagnetic radiation effects everything on earth, its the reason why we are all connected, and why the amount of people not realizing that, is beyond me, or my way of thinking. Perhaps its this realization of concepts passed their knowledge, and only a matter of gaining it.
Here are a couple of examples:
http://en.wikipedia....ld#Applications
http://en.wikipedia....a_feedback_loop
http://en.wikipedia....omagnetic_field
http://en.wikipedia....omagnetic_field
Easiest to read top to bottom for learning purposes.

Hopefully now we'll reflect on what we've read and thought of; How could we all be connected? If we are connected would we be one "blob" like entity such as our multicellular bodies right now? Or are we built inside of different levels of all these separate radiation types?

These are scientific and physical things that are not paranormal at all, things associated with them are paranormal?

[G3N0M3]

tinieblas, on 03 November 2009 - 10:30 PM, said:

I won't rule out electromagnetism, I think there is a definate element of EM interferance to these phenomena but I got with a combination of Matt's and Maximal's explainations, although not entirely. I will explain now how.

I occasionally experience what I can only call a static discharge; I can be sitting there and feel a tightening of my skin and then a sound which is only describable as a "crack" or buzz of electricity and then feel a burst of electricity crack out from me. I have heard such a noise described as similar to the buzz of a Star Wars lightsabre...generation and then emission. I have also encountered an apparition which seemed to be made entirely of static electricity........

One point of interest; I have heard and been told by a doctor that my body temperature is a fraction of a degree to a degree higher than normal; the result being that I did not truly suffer from acne as a teenager and tend not to be bothered by the cold that much...

Anyone heard of these electrical discharges or have an explaination for them? It's not exactly large scale voltage (or amperage) here, never smelled ozone or burned anything! lol

Sounds a lot like static electricity and it could be created by things in your home, also latent static built inside yourself until you ground out.
http://en.wikipedia....tic_electricity
http://en.wikipedia....tatic_discharge
http://en.wikipedia....tic_electricity

Hope that helps out for the scientific part to it, as for when you hear and feel it leave where is it? For me when I get intense static "pressure" it starts in my hands, and feet then work to my chest (which for a young person I have high blood pressure) after leaving the chest it goes to my spine the the back of my head. By the time it "leaves" my body it actually sends it outward from my hair, as weird as it sounds my hair and scalp "tingles" and if you ask my it feels quite good. I get the same thing sitting on buses, in cars, even sitting down on certain couches, it really interesting because it feels good all the time.

As for cold, well I live in Canada so lol think thats good enough. Living where I live we have to adapt to to extremely varying conditions (central) where our winters can go from -50c and -60-70c with the wind chill!! And then for our summers, we could get +40c cook eggs on sidewalks type of heat!! So I've tried to control my internal temperature for some years lol, its taken a toll on my heart, and body especially since I don't have the best diet.

[tinieblas]

G3N0M3, on 04 November 2009 - 09:10 PM, said:

Sounds a lot like static electricity and it could be created by things in your home, also latent static built inside yourself until you ground out.
http://en.wikipedia....tic_electricity
http://en.wikipedia....tatic_discharge
http://en.wikipedia....tic_electricity

Hope that helps out for the scientific part to it, as for when you hear and feel it leave where is it? For me when I get intense static "pressure" it starts in my hands, and feet then work to my chest (which for a young person I have high blood pressure) after leaving the chest it goes to my spine the the back of my head. By the time it "leaves" my body it actually sends it outward from my hair, as weird as it sounds my hair and scalp "tingles" and if you ask my it feels quite good. I get the same thing sitting on buses, in cars, even sitting down on certain couches, it really interesting because it feels good all the time.

As for cold, well I live in Canada so lol think thats good enough. Living where I live we have to adapt to to extremely varying conditions (central) where our winters can go from -50c and -60-70c with the wind chill!! And then for our summers, we could get +40c cook eggs on sidewalks type of heat!! So I've tried to control my internal temperature for some years lol, its taken a toll on my heart, and body especially since I don't have the best diet.

Oh yes mate it's far from unpleasant and always happens, thankfully, when I'm on my own.....strange thing is it happened last of Monday night and I was feeling run down and particularly sensative to lights and so forth, then discharged about 6-7 times in a row right on going to bed! So I suppose there is something in your talk of grounding; your body ridding itself of built up energy. It's a shame this is not something which can be done at will for me because that'd be something easy to both measure and prove.

Oh another thing I have started noticing again (I'll start a thread on this tomorrow) but have you every heard of shadow-sight or grey sight? It has something to do with fading your normal sight in dark or semi-dark surroundings...I'll go into more detail tomorrow as I'm quite tired now.

To be honest my temperature varies too; it takes a lot for me to get cold but when I do I suffer! When I'm very cold it takes a lot for me to get warm but it takes a lot for me to get cold in the first place! I think the higher body temp and static discharge thing (or build up thereof) is a either a side-effect of talent or perhaps part of the cause, a sign of the attunement perhaps? Also a question, any problems with excess acid or indigestion? I've been told my blood pH is slightly above normal too which leads my stomach to be slightly more acidic also, leading to common occurances of acid reflux....I was wondering if others have this or whether it's just me?

[G3N0M3]

tinieblas, on 04 November 2009 - 11:49 PM, said:

Oh yes mate it's far from unpleasant and always happens, thankfully, when I'm on my own.....strange thing is it happened last of Monday night and I was feeling run down and particularly sensative to lights and so forth, then discharged about 6-7 times in a row right on going to bed! So I suppose there is something in your talk of grounding; your body ridding itself of built up energy. It's a shame this is not something which can be done at will for me because that'd be something easy to both measure and prove.

Oh another thing I have started noticing again (I'll start a thread on this tomorrow) but have you every heard of shadow-sight or grey sight? It has something to do with fading your normal sight in dark or semi-dark surroundings...I'll go into more detail tomorrow as I'm quite tired now.

To be honest my temperature varies too; it takes a lot for me to get cold but when I do I suffer! When I'm very cold it takes a lot for me to get warm but it takes a lot for me to get cold in the first place! I think the higher body temp and static discharge thing (or build up thereof) is a either a side-effect of talent or perhaps part of the cause, a sign of the attunement perhaps? Also a question, any problems with excess acid or indigestion? I've been told my blood pH is slightly above normal too which leads my stomach to be slightly more acidic also, leading to common occurances of acid reflux....I was wondering if others have this or whether it's just me?

This is quite interesting, maybe we can start to find similarities with people with "talents". Because I've had many different problems that a person my age shouldn't have, and though I've had MANY tests, they cant find anything SERIOUS that could cause everything that happens to me (I don't tell them I see ghosts, feel others pain/emotions, etc.). But they've found many "abnormalities" that might contribute to what happens to me, one of these is the same thing your talking about with the pH level (or along those lines) because I have acid reflex, heartburn, and other things that deal with my stomach acid level. Apart from this I'll explain about my migraines where while I was growing up I received migrains from many different sounds (If there were to many different frequencies), I would also get them from light (Light that is normal to others is BRIGHT to me) I would even sometimes get headaches after meditating (I've meditated since I was 9 because of martial arts, and my spiritual parents). Also I have an overly high amount of plasma in my blood which causes me to heal faster than normal people (no not some superhero wolverine type, just clotting). My heart also works harder to pump my blood because its thicker blood (value?) anyhow I have a slightly higher heart rate, and also I can control my heart rate easily almost naturally, can you do the same?

As for this shadow, or grey-sight the only thing I can think about it when I focus on an object I can "blank out" the surroundings, and make it so EVERYTHING is either black, grey, or you can only see the outlines.

Well I'll see if you made the thread or not, but I think this is what you mean.

[maximaldecimal]

I have been suffering with a bad back for years. It got bent and twisted for a while, but I managed to straighten it out with yoga and chiropractic treatment. The pain still comes and goes though. More recently I have been aflicted with migrains, almost daily. I ended up loosing my job because of the back and my head was spinning on a daily basis. Delusions were also assailing me and it was impossible to focus on my work. One day the pain got too bad and I was dizzied at the same time as my back was in a high level of pain. I could not even find my phone to call in. Since I lost this job the headaches started. My body is still in pain on a regular basis but it doesn't even seem that bad next to the migraines. I went to the orthopedic doctor about the back and he couldn't find anything wrong. So I had little choice but to tell of the mental health issues in an application of disability. I got put on a medicine that made thee migrains worse. It also occurs to me that it is easier for me to get an antiphsicotic than a good painkiller or tranquilizer. It seems ironic since all I really want to do is kill the pain in my head and extremities and get some good sleep. Voices and visions of demons don't really freak me out that much anymore. I've dealt with them for years without telling anybody, but now that my body is falling apart it has become part of my condition and I can regail anyone with it. I still try not to say anything too off the wall in certain company. Tact is a funny thing. Over the years I've found that if something I concieve of is truelly outragious I can phrase it as a joke. That way people who hear it will know I don't take myself too seriously. I have long dealt with the fact that it could be all in my head, but I think it could also be a collective subconcious having an effect on my perceptions. If this was the case it would be from everyones head. It would also be comprised of things that are not in anyones head, mere subconcious energy patterns, or something more. Since it is speculative in the first place there is no real answer. Only variations on the possibility of something that I have to deal with. For some reason I don't think taking medicine to make me stop seeing it is going to help explain it any more than sweeping a mistery under a rug, but I am at the whim of the state at this point. I seriously don't know if I could hold it together enough to work in a kitchen again if I wanted to. Even I could get rid of the migraines the back and knees would act up. I realize I'm tharapizing so I'll can it with one more point. What if the schitzo's are sacred like the shaman's believe?

[G3N0M3]

Well if you've taken all the proper routs such as seeing the doctor like you've stated and this still bothers you extremely we could talk about it personaly if you'd like to PM me. Even chatting onling live I will be able to feel your pain exactly where, but not how much.

By what your saying, have you encountered any hostile demons or ghosts lately? If you have perhaps look at getting baptised &/or something along the lines as it very well could be psychological where even the acts of having these things done to you will "cure" you.

If doing yoga has helped your back, it has to be psychological because my father could barely even move when his back hurt... His back hurt so much my back would tense up, get stiff, and throb whenever I would get withing 20ft of him... One time I said accedentaly hurt him because I showed him exactly where my back hurt when I was around him... Poking him in the back right where I felt it put him on his knees, not even a hard poke, just enough to show him, and he fell in pain...

You might want to get a hold of a message therapist so that you could find out that it may be muscle related also... Muscles especialy from standing for long periods of time will put pressure on your nurves which leads to worse things than just a back or knee ache, its even able to make lower body parts go numb

This post has been edited by G3N0M3: 06 November 2009 - 08:56 PM

[maximaldecimal]

To answer the demon question I have visions based on my pain everyday. There is however a stigma I would put upon it. They could be a cause or an effect of the pain. I will admit that on occassion I can best the cause and the pain subsides. It is very elaborate in scope as there are fronts and sub fronts when I try to find a cause. Each of them varies in depth. Sometimes it seems to come from people. Other times it seems to come from myself. On many variations it seems to come from someone I know, but I have come to question that as a scape goat tactic. Kinda like a demonic passing of the buck. I have no problem bringing this up on the forum but I think some of the gorier details should remain with me for the moment. Suffice to say part of me thinks it could very well be demons torturing me, another part of me thinks it could be some kind of test put to me by the devine, I also reserve the possibility that it could be delusion to some extent some kind of phisical manifestation of stress. I find that if I leave the options open than one way or the other I won't be wrong. Plus the purely logical and scientific approach helps to keep me on the level. It sucks having three points of view sometimes but at least I cover most of the bases that way.

[tinieblas]

Maximal; I have three points of view most of the time..I have a demon on my back as the saying goes, but he hasn't tortured or done anything unpleasant to me for a long time; at this point I'm not even convinced it was him anymore, rather something attracted by my being sensative.

Best thing to do is try not to fight unless there is a good reason or to try and rationalise excessively! Also I'm sure trying to make sense of the impossible to rationalise gave me no end of headaches! I do wonder how many of the people locked away for being crazy actually were insane and how many were not and just haunted or "possessed"?

[maximaldecimal]

tinieblas, on 06 November 2009 - 09:02 PM, said:

Maximal; I have three points of view most of the time..I have a demon on my back as the saying goes, but he hasn't tortured or done anything unpleasant to me for a long time; at this point I'm not even convinced it was him anymore, rather something attracted by my being sensative.

Best thing to do is try not to fight unless there is a good reason or to try and rationalise excessively! Also I'm sure trying to make sense of the impossible to rationalise gave me no end of headaches! I do wonder how many of the people locked away for being crazy actually were insane and how many were not and just haunted or "possessed"?

I believe rationalization is one of the most important tool one who has to deal with a condition like this has. I would also agree that turning the other cheek is prudent and you get points that way for tact if not ethics. Some precieved tormaentor can just be the mind fabricating a cause for the pain subconcouisly. An internal percieved externalization for precieved internal problems. Like shamans believing that evil spirits were the cause of diseases. We know now that these diseases are caused by bacterial, viral, and other pathogen sources, but do they then not still have a spirit of sorts? I think that labeling it as demonic would be a misnomer at this point for these are the effects of entrophy. Indeed one of the best way to defeat disease is by becoming stronger by building up the immune system through prior disease. In other words the common cold is the cure for the stronger cold. Ironic isn't it?

[Insight]

I will pay $1000CAN to anyone here who can prove to me they have psychic powers.

Christmas is almost here. You could use that money to help out a needy family.

[Agent. Mulder]

Insight, on 08 November 2009 - 01:04 AM, said:

I will pay $1000CAN to anyone here who can prove to me they have psychic powers.

Christmas is almost here. You could use that money to help out a needy family.

youre not gonna get your wish.

[tinieblas]

G3N0M3, on 06 November 2009 - 11:52 AM, said:

This is quite interesting, maybe we can start to find similarities with people with "talents". Because I've had many different problems that a person my age shouldn't have, and though I've had MANY tests, they cant find anything SERIOUS that could cause everything that happens to me (I don't tell them I see ghosts, feel others pain/emotions, etc.). But they've found many "abnormalities" that might contribute to what happens to me, one of these is the same thing your talking about with the pH level (or along those lines) because I have acid reflex, heartburn, and other things that deal with my stomach acid level. Apart from this I'll explain about my migraines where while I was growing up I received migrains from many different sounds (If there were to many different frequencies), I would also get them from light (Light that is normal to others is BRIGHT to me) I would even sometimes get headaches after meditating (I've meditated since I was 9 because of martial arts, and my spiritual parents). Also I have an overly high amount of plasma in my blood which causes me to heal faster than normal people (no not some superhero wolverine type, just clotting). My heart also works harder to pump my blood because its thicker blood (value?) anyhow I have a slightly higher heart rate, and also I can control my heart rate easily almost naturally, can you do the same?

As for this shadow, or grey-sight the only thing I can think about it when I focus on an object I can "blank out" the surroundings, and make it so EVERYTHING is either black, grey, or you can only see the outlines.

Well I'll see if you made the thread or not, but I think this is what you mean.

G, I think you make and excellent point here; shall we start a thread on here about that? Or try to round up people away from the skeptic who might try to derail the project? Oh I have an extra bone in my hand for some reason, only in my right hand....I've had it x-rayed and the doctors can see no reason for it being there except to make me able to 'lock' my grip with that hand (it acts like a notch to hold the thumb ligament in place).....maybe we have small differences in chemistry and general make-up which are either a result of the talents or the cause of them?

[G3N0M3]

tinieblas, on 08 November 2009 - 01:00 PM, said:

G, I think you make and excellent point here; shall we start a thread on here about that? Or try to round up people away from the skeptic who might try to derail the project? Oh I have an extra bone in my hand for some reason, only in my right hand....I've had it x-rayed and the doctors can see no reason for it being there except to make me able to 'lock' my grip with that hand (it acts like a notch to hold the thumb ligament in place).....maybe we have small differences in chemistry and general make-up which are either a result of the talents or the cause of them?

Yes actualy this sounds great, because I think there is much corrilation between having different abilities and having other things "different" almost like evolution, but not, you know?

For example, autism limits the brain extensively but it also enhances much of the other parts of the brain not being used. This also works for many other "defects" such as dislexia, where you may be bad at english, you'll be great at something else such as painting, or math.

As for skeptics paranormalacy has said many times, we cant exclude someone, or a "type" of person from veiwing and posting on the thread. I know where your getting to because whenever someone asks something about the paranormal it changes from a question about it to IF it could be possible...

[tinieblas]

G3N0M3, on 09 November 2009 - 04:34 PM, said:

Yes actualy this sounds great, because I think there is much corrilation between having different abilities and having other things "different" almost like evolution, but not, you know?

For example, autism limits the brain extensively but it also enhances much of the other parts of the brain not being used. This also works for many other "defects" such as dislexia, where you may be bad at english, you'll be great at something else such as painting, or math.

As for skeptics paranormalacy has said many times, we cant exclude someone, or a "type" of person from veiwing and posting on the thread. I know where your getting to because whenever someone asks something about the paranormal it changes from a question about it to IF it could be possible...

thread's up G, it's called "Gathering of Experiences"