[Wesker432]

I am sure pennywise still lives I have seen the movie but not got the book but I plan to.Anyway I was reading last night another steven king book called tommyknocker which was set in derry about 6 years after it and it says there were mass muduers in derry from an unknown killer of children 6 years ago.Near the end there is this part where the main character hears laughter from the drainpipe any ideas?

[Sir_Quack_The_Wack]

It is not a very scary movie.

[Wesker432]

Sir_Quack_The_Wack on Jun 28 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

It is not a very scary movie.

It is very scary acually and can you answer my question please?

[Paranormalcy]

My ideas independent of King's writings.

Although ostensibly an alien originally or also, Pennywise was a thoughtform created and shaped into it's pseudo-physical manifestation by the general psychic "broadcasting" of the town's fears and darker urges.

Eventually the kids and later their adult selves were able to directly confront and at least temporarily defeat the creature due to their belief that they were able to do so, that silver would be effective, etc. Faltering belief or anticipation of something bad caused one of their group to lose his life.

It would make sense that in another book, mention is made of later events similar to the ones in IT, indicating that Pennywise had again reformed in some way and was beginning again to prey on the town via its own ripe psychic environment.

[_Libby]

Sorry Wesker, can't answer your question.

Sir_Quack_The_Wack on Jun 28 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

It is not a very scary movie.

You don't know what you're talking about you!

[wexler]

One of the things often misunderstood about King's writings is that he believed in haunted places that sort of drew evil. In many of his books this idea is not translated properly to film. For example in the Shining the idea wasn't that the hotel was haunted by the ghosts and that Torrence was evil but rather that the Overlook was haunted and drew evil to it and created evil there.

This is a common theme in Pet Semetary, Christine, Desperado and other stories. Derry is one of these kinds of places. It is always alive and well just kept at bay for a while.

[Wesker432]

I now have prove that he lives I just finished reading it and at the end the main character see a clown with a balloon winking at him then disapearing I am now freaked out.

[Paranormalcy]

And there you go. Clowns are generally an object of fear because although it is obvious they are an approximation of humans, it is also obvious through their greatly exaggerated and unreal features that they are not human (the physical persona I mean, not the person dressed up of course), and may fall under the category of automotaphobia or even something called "the Uncanny Valley" which includes other humanlike but not human things such as cymbal monkeys, puppets, mascots and costumed characters, androids/robots, dolls, etc.

These encompass childhood and to a lesser extent, adult fears of artificial and therefore alien motives and capabilities, poorly disguised as humanity.

[_Libby]

Paranormalcy on Jun 29 2009, 05:48 PM, said:

And there you go. Clowns are generally an object of fear because although it is obvious they are an approximation of humans, it is also obvious through their greatly exaggerated and unreal features that they are not human (the physical persona I mean, not the person dressed up of course), and may fall under the category of automotaphobia or even something called "the Uncanny Valley" which includes other humanlike but not human things such as cymbal monkeys, puppets, mascots and costumed characters, androids/robots, dolls, etc.

These encompass childhood and to a lesser extent, adult fears of artificial and therefore alien motives and capabilities, poorly disguised as humanity.

Well, that and they're just ******* scary!

But yes, part of the reason I'm so scared by clowns is that they have those big painted smiles, yet they can be have any number of thoughts behind the smile-- including murderous ones.

Though how much of what you said can be applied to a child, who wouldn't actually understand these things? Because I used to hide under the table at parties where a clown was there