[paranormalguy]

Cateyes, if you did any reading what so ever on this video you'd understand that this film was found at a house auction among other random things. You seem adament on calling this family crazy, and saying that they're harrassing a gorilla... since this is personal opinion, it can be completely discounted. You just seem like an angry person, making accusations with no basis in fact.

"it has no tail and it has a silver back that screams gorilla "

Oh of course! (sarcasm) are you serious? First of all it can't be said if the back is silver, looks more like glossy black fur to me... and second of all, had you analyzed the film you'd see that in several frames a tail is visible. What would make you call the woman a 'cave woman'? and the truck 'creepy'? Just because it was filmed on 8mm film in the seventies doesn't mean it was inbred gorilla hunting hills have eyes hicks alright? You're posts are completely useless and baseless. Also, Agent Mulder... like I said, any body with knowledge and experience of bears can say that isn't a bear. I'll also restate, I'm not saying this is a werewolf or anything.... just saying it ain't a damn bear. The look, behavior, movement and teeth are nothing like a bear. I've hunted bear for years, I can recognize one when I see one

[johnmilner]

Ebonykrow on Jul 7 2009, 10:36 AM, said:

I think it's fake. If you view the website for the Gable Film, you'll see that in one portion there's an image posted with the story of two girls who heard something, and went out and took a picture of this thing that was walking around their garage. Something like that. Anyway, turns out it was a screen cap from the movie Dog Soldiers, but the website is passing it as being a real photograph... Either they're stupid, or they think everyone else is stupid.

i think if you took the time to actually read the website you'd discover they aren't trying to pass off this or any other evidence as real. in fact on his blog, he even shows how it could have been faked. http://michigan-dogm...wordpress/?p=17

so who should i trust - the guy who has spent 20 years collecting reports? or the guy who spends 20 seconds shooting from the hip? hmmm...

[Sir_Quack_The_Wack]

That's what happens when you use crappy steel for your gorilla enclosures at the zoo. When will they learn?

Anyway, one thing is for certain, that's real super 8. Thus the truck crashing, teeth gnashing bit would be very hard to do. I say it's real, but no Dogman. Looks like a gorilla to me.

[Cryptid_Control]

who shot the gable film??? omg does noone see in 2:36 they show the guys face in the mirror?!?!??!

video again

CC

[paranormalguy]

Yes, it's been said that a face is seen in the mirror... unfortunately though, it would be damn near impossible to find out who it is now... And again, we should stop assuming it's a gorrila... sure it very well could be, but unless you privide more than opinion and assumption this thread won't get anywhere.

[Cryptid_Control]

looks to me like it has horns... bear, gorilla yeah sure but it just as well could be a chicken unless we can prove anything

CC

This post has been edited by Cryptid_Control: 12 July 2009 - 06:07 PM

[paranormalguy]

"looks to me like it has horns... bear, gorilla yeah sure but it just as well could be a chicken unless we can prove anything

CC "

You have the right attitude, but it really couldn't be a chicken Anyways, from the many independant and university studies done it was found that this creature has ears, much like some cats... but not in the least like a bear or gorilla. As well, it was found through several studies at the kinesthetics lab at Michigan University that no human or bear could perform the feats shown in the video... and that a certain level of 'morphing' can be observed in the creature during it's stride over a log. Several other things to note are the ridges in the roof of the mouth, and the teeth of creature, and that they match neither bears or gorillas, or any primate. The best that could be said by any of the researchers, both independant and university, is that it's neither human, bear, primate, or 'canine'. The best guess is a deformed or otherwise 'unique' large cat, or......some form of badger Seriously, apparently the gait, form, and behaviour of the creature best matches that of a Badger... specifically in heat... the only thing discounting this is the size, which is shown to be roughly 4-5 feet and 150 pounds.

[fandango]

Not sure about horns but it definatley has ears or something on it's head.
Take a look at this film and im pretty sure i see similar traits in the movements of both creatures Bear Attacks Man

[paranormalguy]

Don't mean to be blunt, but no... not only does the creature in "The Gable Film" not look like a bear.... but it doesn't move like one. I'm not sure if you've even watched the same film we're talking about, because I'm sure nobody would have trouble telling that the creature in the film doesn't at all move like the bear in your video. I admit the gait could be easily mistaken for a gorrila's.... but not for a bear of any type or temperment.

edit: sorry if I'm seeming defensive or anything, I'm not.... I'm just frustrated that people can't get it through there heads that it isn't a bear. If it were, it would not only be obvious to us.... but it would've been EXTREMELY obvious to professional, experienced researchers. I'm in the same boat as you guys, I'm guessing it isn't a werewolf but I'm SURE it's not a bear

This post has been edited by paranormalguy: 13 July 2009 - 01:02 AM

[johnmilner]

paranormalguy on Jul 12 2009, 05:00 PM, said:

Don't mean to be blunt, but no... not only does the creature in "The Gable Film" not look like a bear

agreed. i've been hunting bear since my early 20s. bears tend to amble when they run, and usually cantor up to speed. this 'whatsit' bursts into a gallop from the start. bears also run rump high with their head low, whereas primates run with their head up, rump low, and chest exposed. this guy starts like a primate, then goes rump high, and settles into a pursuit that seems clearly feline or canine. he's not trying to scare something off, he's hungry.

[paranormalguy]

I completely agree johnmilner, finally some reason and clear mindedness in this thread Anyways, the odd gait... which is atypical of any known animal... is what makes this 'thing' so hard to identify. The only really useful part of the film is the clear(ish) view of the gait... other than that the actual image quality is to poor to determine and features of the animal. All we can see really is a brownish blob, so we can't identify it through look or anything... that's why The michigan state university kept the film mostly in the kinesthetics lab... as the movement and behaviour is the only real way we can find out what this is.

[supervike]

Wallydraigle on Jul 10 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

Here's a freeze frame of the bear teeth. Honestly, can't really tell much from that.

I think plenty can be told about this frame, which happens just after the impact. Electrical interference and scan lines on 8mm film? Really? No. Look, the rest of the film is real, 8mm film from the seventies but it's not all one continuous take, and there's no reason to believe all of the finished product was even shot with the same camera. The 20 second take with the "incident" doesn't show any of the original people, or the camera, or anything that definitely ties it in with the rest of the film, since it's a different take from them. In my mind, the frames with the scan lines prove that that segment was shot later with a camcorder on magnetic tape, and then made to appear to match the rest of the film. To me this is a clear cut hoax.

I appreciate your theory, but couldn't 'electrical interference' could simply be explained by copying the 8mm to a VCR tape...

Anyhow, to me it looks like a pissed off CHOW CHOW dog.

This post has been edited by supervike: 13 July 2009 - 01:27 PM

[fandango]

After watching the film for about 8 hours last night and trawling through the internet trying to find similar animals of the same approx height, build, shape and movement I seem to have come up with 2 options:

A very Large Japanese Akita


Or a very large Chow Chow


"supervike" where did you get that image, i was looking for something like that for hours!!

This post has been edited by fandango: 13 July 2009 - 01:43 PM

[Ruffjeff]

what if it was a gorilla bear hybrid?...

[DarkNova@]

Ruffjeff on Jul 13 2009, 05:59 PM, said:

what if it was a gorilla bear hybrid?...

A Bearilla or a Gorbear?
Uh, no.