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#91    Feanor

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:08 AM

I am afraid that Mr. Hoagland suffers of pareidolia. This guy see things everywhere. Iapetus (one of the Saturnís moons), Mars, Moon, etc.

All he has are theories based on pictures, nothing concrete. I donít buy his stories, thought, they could make good Sci-Fi movies.



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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:50 PM

I think Mr. Hoagland uses these to speculate about Lifeon other worlds?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:47 PM

TALM on Jul 12 2009, 05:53 PM, said:

For those of you that think NASA has told the truth, you have yet to see the truth.


Somehow we hear that a lot around here and it is such a convenient umbrella to hide all sorts of alien life and conspiracies under - unless you know how NASA actually works. When one starts asking some of the more pointy and pertinent questions then the proponents of said "ideas" tend to come up empty handed and being very reluctant to answer.

1) You do know, of course, that NASA doesn't really do it's own image analysis, correct? That is typically done on universities and independent research institutions.
2) Independent scientists have no incentive to hide anything like that - think of the fame and fortune they could get by being the first to release such information. You are of course aware of that fact, correct?
3) That 5 or 6 independent space agencies have now been imaging the moon without finding a single hint of any structure or other artificiality.

Maybe you can do better than others in explaining to me how the above correlates with major structures being present on the moon and said structures are typically only visible to people of conspiracy forums. And maybe you could explain to me exactly what NASA is hiding. That would be most helpful and I am all ears....  

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 06:33 PM

Big waste of time there" bad"  WE  know that there are no Glass Domes,or other structures on the Moon. I can prove it!
If there were it would be on the Gov`s foreclosure list!
Or some Casino would be useing it Now !

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 09:38 PM

TALM on Jul 13 2009, 12:45 AM, said:

Oh  my.............I cant leave it like that. When I say "intelligence" I am referring to collected data and nothing more.



Oh my, you can't leave anything save with cryptic remarks about what you cannot reveal.
You're wasting time here.

Anyone smell someone playing head games?




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Posted 13 July 2009 - 10:02 PM

TALM on Jul 13 2009, 05:45 AM, said:

That would be describing life as you know it. Im not here to try and educate the masses or such nonsense. I posted to explain why Hoagland came up with his (Dome) theory. Unfortunately, in doing so, I had to cover some areas of intelligence that no one here is accustomed to.

Oh  my.............I cant leave it like that. When I say "intelligence" I am referring to collected data and nothing more.


Hi TALM,

Perhaps you would care to expand on your theories regarding the possibility of lunar lifeforms, that way we might come to at least understand, if not share, your belief in such 'critters'.

I am afraid that as for Mr Hoagland, he is in my opinion at least being mistaken or confused regarding artificial lunar structures - at worst promoting a massive hoax for his own self publicity.

I believe wholeheartedly that, until there is concrete proof to the contrary, the only artificial structures on the moon are those left behind by apollo and other such man made exploration programmes

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 10:05 PM

MID on Jul 13 2009, 10:38 PM, said:

Oh my, you can't leave anything save with cryptic remarks about what you cannot reveal.
You're wasting time here.

Anyone smell someone playing head games?


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Posted 13 July 2009 - 10:11 PM

Moon Demon on Jul 10 2009, 01:50 PM, said:

I was listening to Coast to Coast and the guest was Richard Hoagland. He believes there are huge man made domes already in place on the moon. These domes are so large, they can be seen with telescopes. These domes are being used to colonize the moon.
Now the host brought up a good point. Here on Earth, when you erect a sports stadium, it takes thousands of men, hundreds of machines, and years of hard labor. How in the world, would they get those necessary materials to the moon? And how did they send all the men it would require to build it?
Mr. Hoagland doesn't answer these logical questions with coherent answers.
He also believes there are android parts lying in craters and ancient structures on the dark side of the moon.
He believes NASA actually launched the "moon landing hoax" theory in order to cover up the bigger story. And that is there are buildings on the moon that we cannot explain.
Now, I would like to believe the theory about the ancient structures and all the wonderful mysteries of the moon.
I am afraid Mr. Hoagland just does not convince me.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 01:03 AM

I came to this site to not play games, but rather to learn what the fringes of society thought to be real and not real concerning the Moon and all of theories concerning it. In continuation please understand that I understand what I am about to say seems like a teaser or me being cryptic for what ever reasons. MID set me correct on the issue of the need to present evidence in another thread that I spoke freely of my beliefs based on what I considered fact. Well, against his wisdom here I am again dug in a hole. Even to say that I have the evidence but choose to withhold it comes across as me being a game player or worse yet a hoax. All I replied to this thread for was to give  the reasoning why Hoagland thinks there are Domes on the Moon. Again, I will restate that in doing so, I dipped into my own research for reference with no plans to back it up in this format. Of course with not presenting evidence, I surly came across as just another crack pot. So therefor I will try to adhere to the acceptable way of speaking and only present my research and findings as "theory" and stay away from speaking of them as facts until I am prepared to show evidence. Again I know I am sounding cryptic, but it is hard to sound otherwise when you are in my shoes. I look forward to open communication with you people when i find the proper category to address the seemingly mountains of issues that are involved in my research and all the implications that go with it.

So far I want to say thanks to everyone for giving me your viewpoints on how you think I come across. Its a learning process I am going through.





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Posted 14 July 2009 - 04:39 AM

No offence, TALM, but your "theory" (critters on the vine) sounds more ridiculous than Hoagland's domes, bridges, etc. And if you have only "hyper/super enhanced images" (with some magic filters "Skull finder", "Critter enhancer", "Vine sharpener" and similar) to support "theory", then you're wasting your time.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 04:43 AM

bmk1245 on Jul 14 2009, 04:39 AM, said:

No offence, TALM, but your "theory" (critters on the vine) sounds more ridiculous than Hoagland's domes, bridges, etc. And if you have only "hyper/super enhanced images" (with some magic filters "Skull finder", "Critter enhancer", "Vine sharpener" and similar) to support "theory", then you're wasting your time.


Ya I suppose it would be wasting my time if that was the case,



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Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:28 AM

TALM on Jul 14 2009, 02:03 AM, said:

...in another thread that I spoke freely of my beliefs based on what I considered fact.


Were you speaking in connection with a religious or spiritual belief? When dealing with faith based beliefs people often cite religious texts as 'facts'...most people understand that these 'facts' are of a personal spiritual nature, not something scientifically valid.

However, when you talk of some type of living creatures inhabiting the moon this is something that actually can be looked at in a scientific manner. Unless you have some direct evidence of "moon critters" most people won't be willing to entertain this notion.

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Well, against his wisdom here I am again dug in a hole. Even to say that I have the evidence but choose to withhold it comes across as me being a game player or worse yet a hoax.


You dig yourself into this hole by refusing to show us any evidence of your claims...what are any of us to think? Personally, I have to entertain the thought that you might be pulling our legs (joking around) with us here as well.


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I dipped into my own research for reference with no plans to back it up in this format. Of course with not presenting evidence,


And without any evidence you will not be taken seriously...this is your choice.


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Its a learning process I am going through.


Here's a good lesson: Without presenting any evidence for an extraordinary claim very few people will choose to believe it.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 01:30 PM

Lilly on Jul 14 2009, 11:28 AM, said:

However, when you talk of some type of living creatures inhabiting the moon this is something that actually can be looked at in a scientific manner.


Yes it is. And probably has been (is)...but is highly classified.  ???


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Unless you have some direct evidence of "moon critters" most people won't be willing to entertain this notion.


Direct evidence of classified information is always going to be hard to present....but...

Listen to what Jose Escamilla says at the beginning of this video...

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 01:38 PM

bee on Jul 14 2009, 05:30 AM, said:

The plot thickens !!!!!  ohmy.gif  blink.gif


Only as you why you consistently refuse to learn anything, by all means of respect. This has been explained numerous times by numerous people. What is so difficult about it? I have a nagging suspicion that they only difficult part is that it removes the foundation for your beliefs.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 01:44 PM

TALM Lilly`s right, but again welcome there are many places to post such beliefs.
Ancient Mystries & Alterantive Historys.
Cryptozoology,Myths & Legends.
Urban,Legends
Writers & Artist Hangout.
General OFF Topic Discussions.

There are great things on the moon  we do need to go back and develope its resources.
ITs mankinds stepping stone to the Cosmos. Baby steps,then Mars,and then THe Stars!
Good Luck TALM,its great to think outside the Box,But always have a Box cutter to Get back in!

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