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#16    BurnSide

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 08:04 PM

Contrary to popular belief, the world is a much much much MUCH less violent place than it used to be.

200 years ago you would have been burned alive for saying this, haunted-one, because you are a woman with a opinion. You don't think that is slightly more violent that todays standards?


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Posted 22 June 2004 - 10:47 PM

Umm,..dont know how appropriate this would be under this topic..But Ever noticed how japanese people love violence in their movie. I know what i said might sound abit predujiced, and im sorry, cause i really dont want too. Its just that, i know quite a few japanese folks, and let me say..they are the most polite and peaceful people i have ever known. But if you look at the games, comics or movies..its just othervise.
I have mentioned this be before also..but some of the most goriest and realistically brutal movies have been made in japan..especially with a bondage theme, for example the guinea pig series ( the director was actually arrested by the FBI)
There are quite a few sites  on the internet which specialise in gory and extremely graphic videos and pics, and infact they are extrememly popular.
Death metal and Black Metal still remains one of the most popular genre of music..


Lets face it..as a race people can not live without violence...again, i didnot mean to sound racist about the japanese bit..just something i noticed.


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Posted 23 June 2004 - 05:01 PM

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However, video games received more attention that ever after Columbine High School students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 13 people and wounded 23 others before killing themselves in a shooting spree April 20, 1999, in Littleton, Colorado (“Portrait,” 1999). In the following weeks, reports that Harris and Klebold were enthusiasts of violent computer games – as was Michael Carneal, who in 1997 killed three of his classmates in a Paducah, Kentucky, school shooting – prompted intensive public scrutiny and legislative investigation of the effects of video games on children (Hanson, 1999).


And I wonder, if they had been playing, Super Mario Bros., would they have acted in the same way? I think so. These kids lived in a horrible fantasy world, brought on by lack of parenting and bullying.

When I was in High School I had a rich fantasy life, (no snickering), and still do. I watched, Aliens, Nightmare on Elm St., and was pretty much obbsessed with death. I could have been one of those kids that "snapped". I was bullied, and made fun of all the time. But, I had a wonderful father, that raised my sister and myself, after my mother died, all by himself. He had to work, take care of us, and deal with his own issues. But he was always there for us, he always told me how creative I was, and he encouraged me through every turn to presue my artistic endevors. He told me how smart he thought I was, how I could do anything I wanted, and to never quit.

If you ask me, lack of good parenting like that, is most likely the reason for all of the rising violence in teenagers. And in a way, I think the media and video games are to blame- parents use those tools as "babysitters" and plop thier kids down in front of them. I absolutely do not feel that the content of what they are exposed to is the reason for thier violence, but the mere fact that these things are all they know as "parents". whistling2.gif

I DO feel however, that the video game ratings should be enforced better. The last thing you want, is a 6 year old, who has no concept of real morals and reality, playing a game like, Silent Hill, or Grand Theft Auto. I just don't think they should be playing those things. Would you want your children to watch porn or Faces of Death? No. Those things are just not for children to watch. At 6, kids should be playing Spyro, or Crash Bandicoot. Those are eaqually fun. (I love Spyro)
Parents who buy these games for kids, should be told by the person selling them, "this game is rated M". If the parents has no idea what that means, they will be prompted to ask, "what does that mean?". And hopefully it will be explained that this game has realistic blood, beheadings, so forth and so on.

Sorry so long, I just had to rant a  bit. Ranting now complete.

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Posted 23 June 2004 - 06:34 PM

You can't blame video games for violence.  Lets do a simple case study.  The 70's and packman.  I mean if games are so influential wouldn't everyone have been eatling little white dots and going around listening to repetive music?


crying.gif maybe video games are influetial


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Posted 23 June 2004 - 07:19 PM

The actual, horribly famous quote that has been used for many many years by just about everybody is 'everyone would be running around in a little dark room with flouresent lights, munching on little random pills, listening to repetitive music and running away from imaginary ghosts'.
It refers to ravers. Fortunately, not everyone is a raver either.


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Posted 23 June 2004 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (Dementia @ Jun 22 2004, 11:47 PM)
Umm,..dont know how appropriate this would be under this topic..But Ever noticed how japanese people love violence in their movie. I know what i said might sound abit predujiced, and im sorry, cause i really dont want too. Its just that, i know quite a few japanese folks, and let me say..they are the most polite and peaceful people i have ever known. But if you look at the games, comics or movies..its just othervise.
I have mentioned this be before also..but some of the most goriest and realistically brutal movies have been made in japan..especially with a bondage theme, for example the guinea pig series ( the director was actually arrested by the FBI)
There are quite a few sites  on the internet which specialise in gory and extremely graphic videos and pics, and infact they are extrememly popular.
Death metal and Black Metal still remains one of the most popular genre of music..


Lets face it..as a race people can not live without violence...again, i didnot mean to sound racist about the japanese bit..just something i noticed.

i've addressed pretty much the same kind of statement in another thread, which, unfortunately, i can't remember what it was called.

i'm not gonna remake it, ebcause it won't turn out as well, and i'm lazy, but here's a summation: japan is about as violent media wise as america. natural born killers. movies about serial killers. the game "manhunt" (which i looooove wub.gif ).

to sum it up even more: *points finger* hypocrisy! HWACHA!

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Posted 27 June 2004 - 05:40 AM

QUOTE (haunted-one61 @ May 8 2004, 02:53 AM)
I can't sleep anyway, so from a parent's point of view I'll put my 2 cents in. Yes, the world is a far more violent place now than it used to be. No, video games and movies are not to blame. My daughter is far older than her brothers. She is all grown up now, a well-adjusted adult. She played video games, watched MTV, all that stuff. Her brothers play the stuff too. It's all just a matter of what's right and wrong. What's real and what's a game. Kids know the difference. The kids that go and blow away their classmates unfortunately have parents who are not there for them, and there had to have been signs of trouble long before it happened. The parents were just to self-absorbed to notice. By the way, Angelfish, I went to Barnes & Noble and ordered "Night Watch".

There are certian people who get sucked in to these kinds of things and believ it as a relity. You cant make a broad generalization just based on a few people.


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Posted 27 June 2004 - 05:41 AM

QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jun 20 2004, 04:04 PM)
Contrary to popular belief, the world is a much much much MUCH less violent place than it used to be.

200 years ago you would have been burned alive for saying this, haunted-one, because you are a woman with a opinion. You don't think that is slightly more violent that todays standards?

People were ignorant to our standerds back then.
Considering that, I say violence is getting worse.





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