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Is Obama the clone of Akhenaten?


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Posted 01 August 2009 - 12:09 AM

I just want to know why. Why would someone wish to do that? Clone a random Egyptian pharoah and make him president. There would be absolutely no goal in that.  Plus it would be like a one in a million chance he would actually be elected president. This guy has to think his crazy ideas through.


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Posted 01 August 2009 - 02:03 AM

Hmm...I still don't see it. I don't think that Obama has the wide, feminine, child bearing hips of Akhenaten  :lol:

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Tutankhamun, who was likely Akhenaten's son, apparently inherited his pear-shaped figure from his father.

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 08:31 AM

 Cybele, on Jul 31 2009, 09:03 PM, said:

Hmm...I still don't see it. I don't think that Obama has the wide, feminine, child bearing hips of Akhenaten  :lol:

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Tutankhamun, who was likely Akhenaten's son, apparently inherited his pear-shaped figure from his father.


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Posted 01 August 2009 - 01:33 PM

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Akhenaten is often depicted as looking somewhat deformed. His statues consistently display an unusually pear shaped man with an elongated, androgynous face and an oddly shaped skull. Scholars are unsure as to whether this is artistic stylization, but many have speculated that he had some sort of genetic disorder such as Froehlich's or Marfan's Syndrome.

Did Akhenaten Suffer from Marfan's Syndrome?

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The rather strange and eccentric portrayals of Akhenaten, with a sagging stomach, thick thighs, larger breasts, and long, thin face - so different from the athletic norm in the portrayal of Pharaohs - has led certain Egyptologists to suppose that Akhenaten suffered some kind of genetic abnormality. Various illnesses have been put forward. On the basis of his longer jaw and his feminine appearance, Cyril Aldred[52] suggested he may be suffering from Froelich's Syndrome. However, this is unlikely because this disorder results in sterility and Akhenaten is believed to have fathered numerous children - at least six daughters by Nefertiti, and possibly his successor Tutankhamen by a minor wife.

Another suggestion by Burridge[53] is that Akhenaten may have suffered from Marfan's Syndrome. Marfan's syndrome, unlike Froelich's, does not result in any lack of intelligence or sterility. It is associated with a sunken chest, long curved spider-like fingers (arachnodactyly), occasional congenital heart difficuties, a high curved or slightly cleft palate, and a highly curved cornea or dislocated lens of the eye, with the requirement for bright light to see well. Marfan's sufferers tend towards being taller than average, with a long, thin face, and elongated skull, overgrown ribs, a funnel or pigeon chest, and larger pelvis, with enlarged thighs and spindly calves.[54] Marfan's syndrome is a dominant characteristic, and sufferers have a 50% chance of passing it on to their children.[55] All of these symptoms appear in depictions of Akhenaten and of his children. Recent CT scans of Tutankhamun report a cleft palate and a fairly long head, as well as an abnormal curvature of the spine and fusion of the upper vertebrae, a condition associated with scoliosis, all conditions associated with Marfan's syndrome[56].

However, Dominic Montserrat in Akhenaten: History, Fantasy and Ancient Egypt argues that "there is now a broad consensus among Egyptologists that the exaggerated forms of Akhenaten's physical portrayal...are not to be read literally"[42] Montserrat and others[57] argue that the body-shape relates to some form of religious symbolism. Because the god Aten was referred to as "the mother and father of all humankind" it has been suggested that Akhenaten was made to look androgynous in artwork as a symbol of the androgyny of the god. This required "a symbolic gathering of all the attributes of the creator god into the physical body of the king himself", which will "display on earth the Aten's multiple life-giving functions".[42] Akhenaten did refer to himself as "The Unique One of Re," and he may have used his control of artistic expression to distance himself from the common people, though such a radical departure from the idealised traditional representation of the image of the Pharaoh would be truly extraordinary. It should be observed that representations of other persons than Akhenaten in the 'Amarna style' are equally unflattering - for example, a carving of his father Amenhotep III as a languid, overweight figure;[citation needed] Nefertiti is shown in some statues as well past her prime, with a severe face and a stomach swollen by repeated pregnancies.

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Akhenaten is said to have likely been a suffer of Marfan's syndrome. If this was the case, and Obama is his clone, it would appear the geneticists may have successfully corrected this genetic/chromosomal abnormality, as Obama doesn't seem to have any outward signs of Marfan's.


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Posted 01 August 2009 - 01:45 PM

this thread made my day. what a bunch of bull  :lol:

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 01:57 PM

How can Akhenaten's Clone be made without having access to his mummy?   :)

http://www.crystalin.../akhenaten.html

Where is Ahkenaten's Mummy?

What really became of Akhenaten's mummy still remains a mystery. Fragments of sculpture and carving from the royal tomb at Akhetaten shows that his body was originally put there, but no sign of the mummy remains. It is possible that followers of the Aten feared for it's destruction, which would deny him eternal life, and moved the body to a place of safety.


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Posted 06 August 2009 - 06:32 AM

 HumanTorch, on Aug 1 2009, 01:09 AM, said:

I just want to know why. Why would someone wish to do that? Clone a random Egyptian pharoah and make him president. There would be absolutely no goal in that.  Plus it would be like a one in a million chance he would actually be elected president. This guy has to think his crazy ideas through.

I'm not saying I actually believe Obama is an Akhnaten clone however, in Rosicrucian teachings, Akhnaten was the first person ever to have a monotheistic religion, and is regarded as the first Rosicrucian by many.  So he's not just a random Pharaoh, he's significant to a very esoteric group of people.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:00 PM

 HumanTorch, on Jul 31 2009, 08:09 PM, said:

I just want to know why. Why would someone wish to do that? Clone a random Egyptian pharoah and make him president. There would be absolutely no goal in that.  Plus it would be like a one in a million chance he would actually be elected president. This guy has to think his crazy ideas through.

Well the American pyramids aren't going to build themselves are they?

Now we know when Obama says he's going to whip the country into shape he means it in the very literal sense.


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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:10 PM

Could be just the thing. Think how many jobs it'd offer (ok, not necessarily paid ones).

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:31 PM

Christ, don't let the birthers see this :lol:

"HE'S EGYPTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


On a more serious note, man, Obama is RIPPED :P

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 04:38 PM

 Oriana, on Aug 6 2009, 02:32 AM, said:

I'm not saying I actually believe Obama is an Akhnaten clone however, in Rosicrucian teachings, Akhnaten was the first person ever to have a monotheistic religion, and is regarded as the first Rosicrucian by many.  So he's not just a random Pharaoh, he's significant to a very esoteric group of people.

Just as a note of opposition: the actual, historical Rosicrucians never made mention of /any/ Egyptian pharoahs in their texts.

I can't speak to what any of the sundry dress-up versions from c. 1910 that wrote their own fictional history and lie about their origins pretend to. I trust Oriana to be the expert in that.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 11:06 AM

 TooFarGone, on Aug 6 2009, 04:31 PM, said:

Christ, don't let the birthers see this :lol:

"HE'S EGYPTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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You cracked me up with that one.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 11:11 AM

The Alien Project has an article asking if President Obama is the *Reincarnation* of Pharoah Akhenaton.

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Posted 07 August 2009 - 06:14 PM

 bob_12, on Aug 1 2009, 09:57 AM, said:

How can Akhenaten's Clone be made without having access to his mummy?   :)

http://www.crystalin.../akhenaten.html

Where is Ahkenaten's Mummy?

What really became of Akhenaten's mummy still remains a mystery. Fragments of sculpture and carving from the royal tomb at Akhetaten shows that his body was originally put there, but no sign of the mummy remains. It is possible that followers of the Aten feared for it's destruction, which would deny him eternal life, and moved the body to a place of safety.

Akhenaten's mummy is being used as a punching bag in a gym in Marietta, Georgia. I'd say more, but those guys hit very hard...


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Posted 09 August 2009 - 04:49 AM

 sam12six, on Aug 7 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

Akhenaten's mummy is being used as a punching bag in a gym in Marietta, Georgia. I'd say more, but those guys hit very hard...

...very hard.

Is that him on the right?

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Could this mummy be King Akhenaten, father of the legendary King Tut?

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Both mummies also share several idiosyncratic features, including a light scoliosis of the spine, impacted wisdom teeth, and a similarly cleft palate and almost identical jaw and cheekbones.  

The sarcophagus that held this male mummy also lends some support to the theory that this could be Akhenaten.  Although the cartouche that bears the mummy's name was damaged, gold leaf fragments and hieroglyphs have been linked to one name -- Akhenaten.

Although it is impossible to be 100 percent certain, the evidence indicates that Hawass may have successfully identified the pharaoh Akhenaten, King Tut's father.  After examining all three of these mummies, a likely portrait of King Tut's family has begun to emerge -- except for that of Nefertiti, who for the moment is still missing.


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