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#1    morrison1976

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:38 PM

Now, i have always thought that the american government was lying about what really happened in roswell. The weather balloon did not make sense, and project M did not make sense either. Now, im not saying i believe it was ET, as it could have been a number of things. Just came across this, and if true, then it makes this case more interesting. Have a read, and tell me what you think, or if you know anymore about this.

http://ufocon.blogsp...of-roswell.html


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:04 PM

View Postmorrison1976, on Aug 19 2009, 03:38 PM, said:

Now, i have always thought that the american government was lying about what really happened in roswell. The weather balloon did not make sense, and project M did not make sense either. Now, im not saying i believe it was ET, as it could have been a number of things. Just came across this, and if true, then it makes this case more interesting. Have a read, and tell me what you think, or if you know anymore about this.

http://ufocon.blogsp...of-roswell.html
Question is how serious Bragalia is. And how do these scientists (named by Bragalia) know it is the Roswell debris from the crashed ET spacecraft they examine and testing?

Well, to me it does seems it was an ET spacecraft that crashed, the deathbed confessions confirms it, and there were lots of first hand witnesses who came forward, some of them risked their lives by that like for example some Nurse X, a Nurse maked a drawing of one of the dead (4 feet tall) alien bodies, but she was then suddenly "transferred" because she could not keep her mouth shut, so they had to kill her too.


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:09 PM

This is being discussed (among other things) in the More Best Evidence thread:

http://www.unexplain...m...853&st=1125

(Post #1126 by Badeskov in case the link doesn't work.)

And I thought this would be something new! But in fact, I see no reason for this thread.....JMO.


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:20 PM

View Postmorrison1976, on Aug 19 2009, 08:38 AM, said:

Now, i have always thought that the american government was lying about what really happened in roswell. The weather balloon did not make sense, and project M did not make sense either. Now, im not saying i believe it was ET, as it could have been a number of things. Just came across this, and if true, then it makes this case more interesting. Have a read, and tell me what you think, or if you know anymore about this.

http://ufocon.blogsp...of-roswell.html

Hi Morrison,

Unfortunately, I would not hold my hopes too high.

First of all, Mr. Bragalia is not exactly the most credible researcher around and, secondly, in this particular case he is making an outright wrong assessment (whether deliberately or not I shall leave unsaid). One of the central letters from Batelle essentially tells the Air Force that before they can do anything they need something tangible to work with, i.e. Batelle and the Air Force did not have any material at all to work with. And could thus not have concluded anything as being of neither terrestrial not extraterrestrial origin.

Secondly, Mr. Bragalia alleges that this particular study initiated the development of Nitinol. Unfortunately for Mr. Bragalia then Nitinol has a very well documented research and development history dating back to 1938, some 9 years before Roswell. To put it bluntly (and using Evangium's analogy), then his book has little or no more value than regular toilet paper.  

All in all, Mr. Bragalia is out to sell books. Plain and simple.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:20 PM

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This is being discussed (among other things) in the More Best Evidence thread:

http://www.unexplain...m...853&st=1125

(Post #1126 by Badeskov in case the link doesn't work.)

And I thought this would be something new! But in fact, I see no reason for this thread.....JMO.

Well, its new to me, and maybe to other people too, and if you read the link, its also quite intersting.


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:21 PM

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Hi Morrison,

Unfortunately, I would not hold my hopes too high.

First of all, Mr. Bragalia is not exactly the most credible researcher around and, secondly, in this particular case he is making an outright wrong assessment (whether deliberately or not I shall leave unsaid). One of the central letters from Batelle essentially tells the Air Force that before they can do anything they need something tangible to work with, i.e. Batelle and the Air Force did not have any material at all to work with. And could thus not have concluded anything as being of neither terrestrial not extraterrestrial origin.

Secondly, Mr. Bragalia alleges that this particular study initiated the development of Nitinol. Unfortunately for Mr. Bragalia then Nitinol has a very well documented research and development history dating back to 1938, some 9 years before Roswell. To put it bluntly (and using Evangium's analogy), then his book has little or no more value than regular toilet paper.

All in all, Mr. Bragalia is out to sell books. Plain and simple.

Cheers,
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Cheers badeskov. Yes, after reading this, it does sound a bit dodgy :(


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:29 PM

View Postmorrison1976, on Aug 19 2009, 05:20 PM, said:

Well, its new to me, and maybe to other people too, and if you read the link, its also quite intersting.
I agree, its quite interesting, and Bragalia also wrote about that the scientists compare the human made material to the crashed ET spacecraft's material (debris). Also try search under "Roswell debris confirmed as Extraterrestrial" (also by Bragalia) there you can read about it too......

You can find the Roswell debris in Wikipedia "Material with exotic properties" were Jesse Marcell descripe the debris he found including the I-Beam with Hieroglyphics on it as no one are able to decipher........

Edited by Ra_Sun-God, 19 August 2009 - 04:39 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:35 PM

View Postmorrison1976, on Aug 19 2009, 05:21 PM, said:

Cheers badeskov. Yes, after reading this, it does sound a bit dodgy :(
I agree, Badeskov's statements about Bragalia sounds dodgy. Bragalia is one of the most credible researchers. I don't think Bragalia just wants to sell books, no, to me Bragalia is serious enough.....  ;)

Edited by Ra_Sun-God, 19 August 2009 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:44 PM

morrison1976 @ Aug 19 2009, on 05:21 PM, said:

Cheers badeskov. Yes, after reading this, it does sound a bit dodgy


View PostRa_Sun-God, on Aug 19 2009, 05:35 PM, said:

I agree, Badeskov's statements about Bragalia sounds dodgy...

You know quite well that was not what morrison meant by that statement. Please don't do this again.

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 04:52 PM

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Battelle's historic involvement in applying our science to understanding extraterrestrial science is no longer hidden. The truth is now revealed. Battelle Memorial Institute analyzed the materials of construction of a crashed craft from another world.

Something which I least believe because it would have been a great news if every specialists on earth admitted....and also from previous works I doubt their entire credibility....
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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:32 PM

View Postmorrison1976, on Aug 19 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Cheers badeskov. Yes, after reading this, it does sound a bit dodgy :(

Yeah, unfortunately it does. I would love it to be true, but this sounds way out of whack to me. Pity people like Bragalia has to keep coming around with their pseudo-scientific "investigations". If Bragalia had really stumbled across something so significant he could have sold the story for millions to the New York Times (or similar) and then written a book.  

Now his book comes out and will probably not really get any attention. One wonders why...;)

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 05:36 PM

View PostRa_Sun-God, on Aug 19 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

I agree, Badeskov's statements about Bragalia sounds dodgy.

Tsk tsk tsk. That was not nice, Ra!

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Bragalia is one of the most credible researchers. I don't think Bragalia just wants to sell books, no, to me Bragalia is serious enough.....  ;)

You have still to reply to my post 1126 in the More Best Evidence Thread. Care to reply to that particular post?

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 06:01 PM

View PostRa_Sun-God, on Aug 19 2009, 10:04 AM, said:

Question is how serious Bragalia is. And how do these scientists (named by Bragalia) know it is the Roswell debris from the crashed ET spacecraft they examine and testing?

Well, to me it does seems it was an ET spacecraft that crashed, the deathbed confessions confirms it, and there were lots of first hand witnesses who came forward, some of them risked their lives by that like for example some Nurse X, a Nurse maked a drawing of one of the dead (4 feet tall) alien bodies, but she was then suddenly "transferred" because she could not keep her mouth shut, so they had to kill her too.

I won't deny that these people could be right.... However unlike you I won't jump the gun and say they are telling the truth either mostly because people lie all the time, long term memory is unreliable and it's all second hand information.

I have some questions for you.

1: Have you heard or anyone else (living) heard these deathbed confessions?

2: Who is this nurse? How do you know she was 'disappeared'? What evidence do you have of this?

3: While everyone claimed to be risking their lives how do you know they really were? If true since the story is so fantastic and unbelievable why not just let them talk since people wouldn't believe them anyway?

4: In the last 60 years how come no one from the inside has come forward to present evidence? A conspiracy this big would be full of leaks just like Watergate regardless of security.

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I agree, Badeskov's statements about Bragalia sounds dodgy. Bragalia is one of the most credible researchers. I don't think Bragalia just wants to sell books, no, to me Bragalia is serious enough.....

Books = income....

Scientists make peanuts for money, my friend Gary is a physicist and only makes about 50k a year... Bragalia has every reason to write a book and make money, I would...

More questions.

1: How do you know Bragalia is one of the most credible researchers? (having a college/university education does not count as an answer.)

2: How do you know he doesn't wanna write a book and make money?

3: How do you know Bragalia is serious and not lying to exploit your beliefs?


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 08:58 PM

View Postbadeskov, on Aug 19 2009, 05:32 PM, said:

Yeah, unfortunately it does. I would love it to be true, but this sounds way out of whack to me. Pity people like Bragalia has to keep coming around with their pseudo-scientific "investigations". If Bragalia had really stumbled across something so significant he could have sold the story for millions to the New York Times (or similar) and then written a book.  

Now his book comes out and will probably not really get any attention. One wonders why...;)

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You are so wrong again. Bragalia is serious enough! Don't listen to Badeskov! And I mean it!  ;)


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Posted 19 August 2009 - 09:01 PM

View PostLilly, on Aug 19 2009, 04:44 PM, said:

You know quite well that was not what morrison meant by that statement. Please don't do this again.
Please don't do this. You know that Badeskov is wrong about that. Please don't fall into that trap Lilly!

Edited by Ra_Sun-God, 19 August 2009 - 09:02 PM.





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