[DieChecker]

Here I came to my favorite Forum and find no one has posted anything about the Afghan Presidential Election. I was hoping for some News or at least Opinion.

Anyone care to speculate? Karzai win by a landslide or a run off? Supposedly there were allocations of voting fraud days before and violent has been steadily climbing too. The Taliban has told people to avoid the election and that it is a tool of the "Crusaders".
http://en.wikipedia....ential_election,_2009

http://www.voanews.c...-08-25-voa5.cfm
http://www.upi.com/T...83821251178836/

Wow. Five days latter and only 10% of the votes counted. I wonder how Ahmadinejad got his votes counted so quickly??

[Pseudo Intellectual]

Meh, I predict Karzai ones. Frankly, I don't think they should have elections at this point; NATO should govern Afghanistan until it's safe and sound for the Afghans to govern themselves.

[Corp]

No results, but it sounds like the fall out is going to be messy. Members of Karzai have claimed victory while his main rivial has already said there's been massive fraud and he'll refuse to acknowledge a Karzai victory.

[Cadetak]

I predict Afghanistan will be the new Iran...give the bloggers a new fad to pretend to care about.

[questionmark]

There are no results yest, it is estimated that the first tenable figures will be out in a week, meanwhile Karzai seez he won and the other candidates are accusing him of stuffing boxes.

In any case, observers seem to confirm that there were irregularities.

No matter what... a BIG mess.

[stevewinn]

Its to early to say whose won, but i think its safe to say half the votes were fraudulent. This spreading of democracy doesnt happen over
night. I believe one of the candidates is named Abdullah Abdullah, hes so good they named him twice.

This post has been edited by stevewinn: 27 August 2009 - 08:06 PM

[Pseudo Intellectual]

Fun Fact: Abdullah is Arabic for "slave of Allah."

[questionmark]

In related news:

Complaints of Afghan election fraud pour in

By Peter Graff

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's Electoral Complaints Commission has received more than 2,000 complaints of fraud or abuse in last week's disputed presidential election, with 270 now listed as serious enough to affect the result, it said on Friday.

More than a week after the election, Afghanistan remains in a state of political limbo, with authorities having published results from just 17 percent of polling stations, giving inconclusive figures.

President Hamid Karzai's main rival, Abdullah Abdullah, has complained about fraud and said he would not accept the result if large-scale abuse was found to have played a decisive role.

The complaints commission, which was partly appointed by the United Nations and includes Afghan and foreign members, said more allegations from polling day are still arriving. The numbers of serious complaints reported on Friday were far higher than it had listed in the initial days after the voting took place.

It has received 2,207 complaints, including 1,740 since polling day. It has so far categorized 984 of the complaints, and listed 270 as Category A, "which, if proved valid, could have material effects on the results", it said in a statement.

Full story, source: Reuters

[stevewinn]

I think even without media reports we'd sort of guessed the Afghan elections will be dodgy. After all the Afghans are the same people who still to this day are living in mud huts with the tribal mentality.

The only way to succeed in Afghanistan is to occupy the the country for the next 50 years. its a total cluster****

[InHuman]

Pseudo Intellectual, on 25 August 2009 - 02:32 PM, said:

Meh, I predict Karzai ones. Frankly, I don't think they should have elections at this point; NATO should govern Afghanistan until it's safe and sound for the Afghans to govern themselves.

No. Because if that were to happen whatever allies we had in the country would turn against us, and the civillian population would be at your neck.

[InHuman]

Pseudo Intellectual, on 27 August 2009 - 01:19 PM, said:

Fun Fact: Abdullah is Arabic for "slave of Allah."

Servant of God.

[Pseudo Intellectual]

No. "Abd" means slave. "Khadim" means servant.

[InHuman]

Pseudo Intellectual, on 01 September 2009 - 01:51 PM, said:

No. "Abd" means slave. "Khadim" means servant.

It can be either, the direct translation just has a word that is "subsirvent".

However, what I was trying to point out to you that you phrasing of "slave of allah" has a negative connotation, and you were obviously trying to make that connection.

[Pseudo Intellectual]

If you ask any Muslim whether they are a slave of Allah's, I assure you they will say yes. Same with Christians and God.

[InHuman]

Pseudo Intellectual, on 01 September 2009 - 10:52 PM, said:

If you ask any Muslim whether they are a slave of Allah's, I assure you they will say yes. Same with Christians and God.

Thats not what I'm saying. Is it over your head?