[Xerxes Break]

I have and issue, i am really sensitive to electro-magnetic waves, like sometimes when i am out in town with friends and we are at the library and the generator kicks on, i get a massive head ache (and i hear this swooshing ish sound), and once i have even fallen to the ground because of the pain in my head. Also when a plane flies over i feel nauseated and my head hurts.
Is this a problem? i mean like is there something wrong with my head? Maybe a medical condition?
Some people say that this is a psychic ability because i can also sense things like danger or ghosts, and i know this because i get the same pain and sound in my head that i do when a generator kicks on, and then right after a weird experience happens or someone gets hurt.
I am really worried im not sick but idk what do you guys think??

This post has been edited by Eternal Circus: 26 September 2009 - 02:48 PM

[Finity]

Some people are just naturally sensitive to it, theres nothing really odd going on. I get it as well but it doesnt cause pain like you described, except on old CRT TVs when I put my head near them (hate those :/). I can usually tell strait away when someone turns on something electrical near me though (within about 5-10 meters).

[tinieblas]

owwww! owww! owwww! I get that too, headaches from bright car headlamps, disorientation from too many EM sources in my vicinity, excessive tiredness, sickness.......it's high sensativity to EM radiation causing that...it does seem that people who are psychically sensative seem to be overly sensative to EM radiation also so perhaps there is some kind of relationship there?

Don't worry, the oppressed feeling is just too many EM sources, a holiday to the country or seaside is a good idea as that can cleanse you out a bit. Don't worry though, you're fine, just sensative.

[sinewave]

Xerxes Break, on 26 September 2009 - 09:47 AM, said:

I have and issue, i am really sensitive to electro-magnetic waves, like sometimes when i am out in town with friends and we are at the library and the generator kicks on, i get a massive head ache (and i hear this swooshing ish sound), and once i have even fallen to the ground because of the pain in my head. Also when a plane flies over i feel nauseated and my head hurts.
Is this a problem? i mean like is there something wrong with my head? Maybe a medical condition?
Some people say that this is a psychic ability because i can also sense things like danger or ghosts, and i know this because i get the same pain and sound in my head that i do when a generator kicks on, and then right after a weird experience happens or someone gets hurt.
I am really worried im not sick but idk what do you guys think??

Are you sure it is generator? I was just wondering why a library would have one.

[G3N0M3]

Interesting Information - Different frequencies can change your mood, feelings, and even attitude. These frequencies are to deal with the different brain wave frequencies such as Theta, Delta, Beta states.

Also for a bit of history - Russian scientists developed a test to see how low range frequencies effect a populous, the test was having large speakerphones on polls that were placed in an area and activated. The results were a more docile, mindset of people who did not even notice that they were being manipulated from outside forces. It is considered to be a form of hypnosis, but I think cities with crime issues should actually start up these programs in intervuls, where every other day they would be activated, to docile the general area, so it will reduce crime.

There is a thread about being able to listen to electrical devices where I labeled different sounds, with what causes them, which I think you should check out, and read and see if you can hear it all.

[Solid Skeptic]

Hey there, sorry to hear about your problem. Is it not bothersome to use your computer?

[tinieblas]

Solid Skeptic, on 30 October 2009 - 08:16 AM, said:

Hey there, sorry to hear about your problem. Is it not bothersome to use your computer?

That's sarcasm that is! Remember the first time you went to a nightclub? You left and your ears were ringing all the rest of the next day? That's because your ears were not used to the level of noise. As time passed you noticed the higher level of noise less, you had grown accustomed perhaps. Even if you have never attended such an insalubrious establishment, I'm sure you can think of other expamples. Same here, you grow accustomed over time and repeated use. I remember the first time I used a Bluetooth headset, right before a call came in (a few seconds in advance, every time, I even tested it with some friends)...I'd feel dizzy and disorientated slightly and then get a piercing pain over my left temple (headpiece in left ear) and behind my ear. Every time a call came in. A few seconds before each and every call. It got so bad that I had to stop using it and wait for Bluetooth technology to improve by a few years. Now I use bluetooth headphones and am mysteriously fine; different frequency (or even amplitude) perhaps?

Fact is, this is no high-falutin' paranormal sense. Nope this is a common human sense. Just like people who can sense the approach of a storm. We all can do it but not all of us pay attention. Electromagnetic sense which is spoken about here is, in my opinion, what is left of an old navigational sense which early man once made use of but remains embedded in our DNA just like so many other things from our genetic heritage. You wait and see, chief, 20-30 (at most) years from now, some fresh-faced little whitecoat will discover the location of this sense within our genome and proceed to locate and 'prove' the very senses you are currently denying the existence of. Wait and see

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[Mattshark]

tinieblas, on 24 October 2009 - 04:09 AM, said:

owwww! owww! owwww! I get that too, headaches from bright car headlamps, disorientation from too many EM sources in my vicinity, excessive tiredness, sickness.......it's high sensativity to EM radiation causing that...it does seem that people who are psychically sensative seem to be overly sensative to EM radiation also so perhaps there is some kind of relationship there?

Don't worry, the oppressed feeling is just too many EM sources, a holiday to the country or seaside is a good idea as that can cleanse you out a bit. Don't worry though, you're fine, just sensative.

But the earth produces lots of EM radiation, light is electromagnetic radiation, heat is electromagnetic radiation, radio waves, x-rays. Sorry but that is a meaningless blanket statement.

Any advise other than going to the doctor is highly irresponsible. There are many medical issues that could be far better applied.

[Mattshark]

tinieblas, on 30 October 2009 - 05:40 PM, said:

That's sarcasm that is! Remember the first time you went to a nightclub? You left and your ears were ringing all the rest of the next day? That's because your ears were not used to the level of noise. As time passed you noticed the higher level of noise less, you had grown accustomed perhaps. Even if you have never attended such an insalubrious establishment, I'm sure you can think of other expamples. Same here, you grow accustomed over time and repeated use. I remember the first time I used a Bluetooth headset, right before a call came in (a few seconds in advance, every time, I even tested it with some friends)...I'd feel dizzy and disorientated slightly and then get a piercing pain over my left temple (headpiece in left ear) and behind my ear. Every time a call came in. A few seconds before each and every call. It got so bad that I had to stop using it and wait for Bluetooth technology to improve by a few years. Now I use bluetooth headphones and am mysteriously fine; different frequency (or even amplitude) perhaps?

Fact is, this is no high-falutin' paranormal sense. Nope this is a common human sense. Just like people who can sense the approach of a storm. We all can do it but not all of us pay attention. Electromagnetic sense which is spoken about here is, in my opinion, what is left of an old navigational sense which early man once made use of but remains embedded in our DNA just like so many other things from our genetic heritage. You wait and see, chief, 20-30 (at most) years from now, some fresh-faced little whitecoat will discover the location of this sense within our genome and proceed to locate and 'prove' the very senses you are currently denying the existence of. Wait and see

Well human ability to navigate by the Earth's electromagnetic field is known, it is found in all humans. It doesn't make the blanket answer you have given any more credible, and you'd be amazed by the complete lack of white coats the scientists wore to find these things out. As for sensing a storm, pressure is something again we are all sensitive too.

Bluetooth btw has not varied in the frequency used (amplitude is irrelevant).

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[tinieblas]

Mattshark, on 01 November 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

Well human ability to navigate by the Earth's electromagnetic field is known, it is found in all humans. It doesn't make the blanket answer you have given any more credible, and you'd be amazed by the complete lack of white coats the scientists wore to find these things out. As for sensing a storm, pressure is something again we are all sensitive too.

Bluetooth btw has not varied in the frequency used (amplitude is irrelevant).

Ahh Matt, when will you learn that behaving that that just makes me pay no attention to what you're saying? You just don't listen do you? I'm saying that these 'talents' or 'abilities' are perfectly natural, not magical or special, no more than having blue eyes is better than having brown eyes is. How much of the inner workings of the human mind do we understand? Not as much as we'd like. Thus, it is possible that, inside that large chunk of knowledge which we don't understand lies the explaination for and source of these senses which are more developed in some than in others. No long beards and white robes here, just alternative explainations. Either a large section of the population and the majority of people on here are suffering from unknown and indetectible mental maladies or there is something in what we say, if people would only look for it.

If we can sense magnetic energy and pressure differentials, is it not possible that we are capable of detecting other, as yet unclassifed, forms of energy? We know irrefutably that there are wavelengths of light outside of the visible spectrum, for example, how about some people having a mutation or a sport gene which allows them to perceive or sense some of these other wavelengths?

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[Mattshark]

tinieblas, on 01 November 2009 - 11:55 PM, said:

Ahh Matt, when will you learn that behaving that that just makes me pay no attention to what you're saying? You just don't listen do you? I'm saying that these 'talents' or 'abilities' are perfectly natural, not magical or special, no more than having blue eyes is better than having brown eyes is. How much of the inner workings of the human mind do we understand? Not as much as we'd like. Thus, it is possible that, inside that large chunk of knowledge which we don't understand lies the explaination for and source of these senses which are more developed in some than in others. No long beards and white robes here, just alternative explainations. Either a large section of the population and the majority of people on here are suffering from unknown and indetectible mental maladies or there is something in what we say, if people would only look for it.

Yes and I am saying these things are well known. Has no relation to anything else and doesn't explain you previous vaguness about using electromagnetic (you magneto-sense being used just on the Earth's EM field). There is simply no evidence of any "special abilities". Conjecturing that is meaningless. There might be invisible unicorns on you head too.

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If we can sense magnetic energy and pressure differentials, is it not possible that we are capable of detecting other, as yet unclassifed, forms of energy? We know irrefutably that there are wavelengths of light outside of the visible spectrum, for example, how about some people having a mutation or a sport gene which allows them to perceive or sense some of these other wavelengths?

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Not unless you have seriously mutated eyes, no. That'd show up very easily, anyone thinking that is try feel free to submit to genetic testing.

[tinieblas]

you focus on what you want to focus on....we don't know what the DNA which might cause this is or where it is located so why would genetic testing actually reveal anything? You fail to aprehend, willingly I feel, the actual gist of what I was saying....I'm trying to take the 'magical' side away from this and actually allow for possible scientific explainations but it seems even scientific people tend to not bother listening to anything but accepted theory if it sounds different to what is commonly accepted as real....

can you not even begin to possibly accept that there are things yet which science does not know which might make sense of these things which are now considered magical or impossible.....not so long ago, the creation and birth of a human being was magical, the cycles of the sun and moon were magical, so many things which were considered magical and are now not. What was formally considered stupid and unbelievable are now common knowledge. Expand your mind and think outside of the box Matt, you don't know everything and nor does science.

[Mattshark]

tinieblas, on 02 November 2009 - 01:11 AM, said:

you focus on what you want to focus on....we don't know what the DNA which might cause this is or where it is located so why would genetic testing actually reveal anything? You fail to aprehend, willingly I feel, the actual gist of what I was saying....I'm trying to take the 'magical' side away from this and actually allow for possible scientific explainations but it seems even scientific people tend to not bother listening to anything but accepted theory if it sounds different to what is commonly accepted as real....

Are you serious? Read up on some developmental biology. Genetics make your cells what they, this is just commonly accepted, it is universally accepted due to the overwhelming mass of evidence for it. You genes control your biological traits.
Comprehend btw, not apprehend. And it is nothing to do with accepted theory (though you may want to find out what a theory in science is, it is very different from the colloquial use) it is too do with what you can back up, anyone can makes claims, claims have no value.

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can you not even begin to possibly accept that there are things yet which science does not know which might make sense of these things which are now considered magical or impossible.....not so long ago, the creation and birth of a human being was magical, the cycles of the sun and moon were magical, so many things which were considered magical and are now not. What was formally considered stupid and unbelievable are now common knowledge. Expand your mind and think outside of the box Matt, you don't know everything and nor does science.

Actually if that were true I'd never become a scientist. I will, however, not accept blind conjecture as a reason to dismiss what we do know especially when it contradicts available evidence.
Blind conjecture is not thinking outside the box and it is not how the world progresses because it has no constraints and fails to be applicable. You want progress you experiment, not random conjecturing.

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[tinieblas]

Mattshark, on 01 November 2009 - 08:40 PM, said:

Are you serious? Read up on some developmental biology. Genetics make your cells what they, this is just commonly accepted, it is universally accepted due to the overwhelming mass of evidence for it. You genes control your biological traits.
Comprehend btw, not apprehend. And it is nothing to do with accepted theory (though you may want to find out what a theory in science is, it is very different from the colloquial use) it is too do with what you can back up, anyone can makes claims, claims have no value.


Actually if that were true I'd never become a scientist. I will, however, not accept blind conjecture as a reason to dismiss what we do know especially when it contradicts available evidence.
Blind conjecture is not thinking outside the box and it is not how the world progresses because it has no constraints and fails to be applicable. You want progress you experiment, not random conjecturing.

You really are a lost cause aren't you? Answer the question. Do we know what all of our genes do? Yes or no.
Do we know what all of the human mind does and who all of it's components actually do? Yes or no.
Therefore can you actually say with 100% certainty that which I here suggest is actually wrong or is it just your opinion that I am not?

If you can tell me what ALL of our genes do and the characterists ALL the base pairs carry and code; then please do.
If you can tell what all of the structures of the brain do and exactly how our mind works; please do so.

If you can do neither of the above; you are conjecturing as much as I am so how about sticking to the facts and admitting that you don't know...is that so hard? No....let go of your pride and admit that I could well be right. Any answer you give just to criticise me henceforth on this thread will be ignored. Answer the questions or don't expect an answer.

[Mattshark]

tinieblas, on 02 November 2009 - 03:35 AM, said:

You really are a lost cause aren't you? Answer the question. Do we know what all of our genes do? Yes or no.
Do we know what all of the human mind does and who all of it's components actually do? Yes or no.
Therefore can you actually say with 100% certainty that which I here suggest is actually wrong or is it just your opinion that I am not?

I'm a lost cause? You promote ignorance of knowledge! It doesn't matter if we know everything, it doesn't support your claims, only evidence can do that and there is nothing to suggest anything you have claimed is anything other than fairy tales. You are asking for yes and no answers for questions where such answers don't exist because you are arguing a field you clearly never bothered to learn. Appealing to ignorance doesn't validate your argument, it means you haven't got one.

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If you can tell me what ALL of our genes do and the characterists ALL the base pairs carry and code; then please do.
If you can tell what all of the structures of the brain do and exactly how our mind works; please do so.

I haven't got the time to take you through human genetics. Why don't you do what normal people do and read it at university. However, I can tell you none of it supports your claims, which is the important point and if you don't understand that point you taking any A-levels was clearly a waste of time.

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If you can do neither of the above; you are conjecturing as much as I am so how about sticking to the facts and admitting that you don't know...is that so hard? No....let go of your pride and admit that I could well be right. Any answer you give just to criticise me henceforth on this thread will be ignored. Answer the questions or don't expect an answer.

Oh wow, you really don't understand how evidence works do you. No saying there is no evidence of something when there is in fact, no evidence of something, is not conjecture. Sorry but that is out and out wrong.

I suggest you look up the fallacy of argument from ignorance and you'll see why you have nothing.