[digitalartist]

Consciousness, on 30 September 2009 - 03:06 AM, said:

This is rather long but I will post most of it here for people that don't want to click the link.
You don't have to believe any of this make the judgment on your own if you believe this or not.
I'm posting this here to give people a different view other then the common view.This is more of a hidden view.

Link:
http://home.iae.nl/u...mancamefrom.htm
Part 1

The Evolvement of the Spirit of man

This Awareness indicates that the evolvement of the spirit of man as that which entered from higher dimensions into that which is the materialistic bodies of creatures which were evolving as Darwin and others have formulated in their teachings. This Awareness indicates that the movement of the evolution toward that which is associated with the primate, or anthropoid shape as that which is correct as indicated by these studies of Darwin and others, to a certain degree. This Awareness indicates however, that even these studies are in error to some degree, and that it was not always created from natural selection or natural circumstances, but that these evolving creatures, in many instances were altered through genetic engineering of celestial beings who entered into this dimension.

You say you are making a statement of that which is hidden, but in the very first paragraph, you have made 2 claims

1 - That mans sirit entered from a higher dimension
2 - Celestial beings from another dimension genetically altered the human race

Since neither of those claims are backed by any written material or scientific evidence, you need to supply something which will back up these claims or they remain opinion and can not be considered fact.

[Saru]

Thread cleaned

Can we discuss this without the flaming and personal attacks please.

[Consciousness]

Saru, on 30 September 2009 - 02:51 PM, said:

Thread cleaned

Can we discuss this without the flaming and personal attacks please.

Thay would be nice.Thankyou!

[Consciousness]

digitalartist, on 30 September 2009 - 02:51 PM, said:

You say you are making a statement of that which is hidden, but in the very first paragraph, you have made 2 claims



Since neither of those claims are backed by any written material or scientific evidence, you need to supply something which will back up these claims or they remain opinion and can not be considered fact.

So tell me why does it need to be scientific evidence?
Are things only considered facts if a scientist says it is?
We all know a lot of scientist keep facts hidden that
would stir the masses up.

[Consciousness]

Did you know that all the world’s most ancient monuments
line up with the star systems: Orion, Leo and Draco?
http://www.bibliotec.../reptiles28.htm


A clarification is in order here. Four thousands years ago I would not have had to tell you this, since if you lived in those times you would have been taught this in school, but 4000 years of a powerful directed misinformation campaign have taken their toll, and it’ll take me some effort here to clarify some basics for you.
http://www.bibliotec...aki/anu_13a.htm

It is generally agreed that these Proto-Sumerians were the origin of our Western Civilization, and that their beginnings were in the area called Mesopotamia, literally "the land between the two rivers." The arrival of these "gods" is reported in the records that their descendants left behind - the Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian cuneiform tablets.
http://www.bibliotec...dex-en.htm#menu

The ancient traditions and scriptures from different continents talk about a race of serpent beings endowed with superhuman powers. The scriptural and folkloric resources are used to present more complete picture of them and their ancient and recent interaction with humans
http://www.reptilian.../r073101a.shtml

In a nutshell, they tell us of ancient gods who came from the sky
http://www.pufoin.co...ive/nibiru3.php

heres a few I will add more later.

[Qoais]

There is more to life than just scientific evidence.

[Consciousness]

Sumerian text: "Man is born of sadness, for he is of the Blood of the Ancient Ones (One ET race), but has the Spirit of the Elder gods (Another ET race) breathed into him. And his heart goes to the Ancient Ones, but his mind is turned towards the Elder gods, and this is the war which shall be always fought, unto the last generation of man; for the world is unnatural." - ETs have been involved with Earth races since its birth and SOME, not all, fight over control of this living archive of DNA.
http://www.1111webde.../Agreement.html

Like most Planet X researchers, I came upon this troubling topic by happenchance. Or in other words, I literally marched straight backwards into it.
It began for me in the early years after the fall of the Soviet Empire. A historical event predicted by ancient Egyptians authors some 3600 years ago in of The Kolbrin Bible.
http://www.bibliotec.../kolbrin_08.htm

http://www.bibliotec...ehovah.htm#menu

http://www.bibliotec...-main.html#menu

The Dulce Report
http://www.bibliotec...olitics_H_1.htm

http://www.bibliotec...ien_18.htm#menu

Got to go.More to come tommrow.Since proofs are needed.
I'm sure whatever I post here still won't be enough I guess.
The proof that is on its way will be crashing right into us.
I guess it will take that for the masses to acknoledge what
is really going on.But then it will be to late.....

[jaylemurph]

Abramelin, on 30 September 2009 - 03:51 AM, said:

What I think is the most scary part of all this, is the fact that it originated in The Netherlands.

We're doomed...

And I suppose that has nothing to do with that fine nation's imminently sensible attitudes concerning certain of the recreational drugs?



--Jaylemurph

[phreakstep]

So your proof is mistranslated or total fictional texts from ancient sites?
I wonder why this kind of texts are never posted on .edu sites only on sites which contain bible, numbers, crystal, conspiricy, reptilian and stuff like that.
Like I said Sumerians or other Civilization like that never stated that we were created via genetic engineering this is what Sitchins Made up

Sumerian text: "Man is born of sadness, for he is of the Blood of the Ancient Ones (One ET race), but has the Spirit of the Elder gods (Another ET race) breathed into him. And his heart goes to the Ancient Ones, but his mind is turned towards the Elder gods, and this is the war which shall be always fought, unto the last generation of man; for the world is unnatural."

This is complete bull can you please provide original tablet so I can read it and translate what it really means?
This is flawed Sumerians never described their gods as Ancient ones or Elder gods this smells like somebody copy& paste this sentence from Simon Necrinomicon where he tried to clash togheter Sumerian Mythology and Fiction of H.P Lovecraft.

The really sad part and funny part is that we do not have all the tablets to explain Sumerian creation myths fully because some tablets are missing.

Look Ancient people were smart too but often mistaken do you believe in vampires, wendugos, unicorns, gnomes???
Some people see them and you have ancient texts describing them and so on are they real?

Your logic fails text alone is not sufficient evidence to determine what is true or not let alone new age made up texts.
extraordinary claims requires extraordinary proof.

[The Spartan]

phreakstep, on 30 September 2009 - 09:15 PM, said:

extraordinary claims requires extraordinary proof.

I love this. It makes a good Sig.

[Consciousness]

phreakstep, on 30 September 2009 - 05:15 PM, said:

So your proof is mistranslated or total fictional texts from ancient sites?
I wonder why this kind of texts are never posted on .edu sites only on sites which contain bible, numbers, crystal, conspiricy, reptilian and stuff like that.
Like I said Sumerians or other Civilization like that never stated that we were created via genetic engineering this is what Sitchins Made up

Sumerian text: "Man is born of sadness, for he is of the Blood of the Ancient Ones (One ET race), but has the Spirit of the Elder gods (Another ET race) breathed into him. And his heart goes to the Ancient Ones, but his mind is turned towards the Elder gods, and this is the war which shall be always fought, unto the last generation of man; for the world is unnatural."

This is complete bull can you please provide original tablet so I can read it and translate what it really means?
This is flawed Sumerians never described their gods as Ancient ones or Elder gods this smells like somebody copy& paste this sentence from Simon Necrinomicon where he tried to clash togheter Sumerian Mythology and Fiction of H.P Lovecraft.

The really sad part and funny part is that we do not have all the tablets to explain Sumerian creation myths fully because some tablets are missing.

Look Ancient people were smart too but often mistaken do you believe in vampires, wendugos, unicorns, gnomes???
Some people see them and you have ancient texts describing them and so on are they real?

Your logic fails text alone is not sufficient evidence to determine what is true or not let alone new age made up texts.
extraordinary claims requires extraordinary proof.

I'm not going to debate with somebody with a closed mind.Whos programmed mind is too
programmed to see the bigger picture.

[Consciousness]

Now Lloyd Pye offers a new mechanism, modern DNA evidence, to combine with what has previously been put forth by Von Daniken and others, and Sitchin and others. DNA provides conclusive proof of what the Sumerians wrote 4000 years ago when they said that their down-to-earth "gods" created humans and domesticated plants and animals in "a house of fashioning" to "give the gods their ease
http://www.lloydpye.com/

What do the Anunnaki look like.
http://viewmorepics....mageID=11184418


Pic of Nephilim Egyptian royalty in Stone on Chariot
http://viewmorepics....mageID=11303025


Queen Nefertiti in Stone
http://viewmorepics....mageID=10457758

ENUMA ELISH
http://www.sacred-te...m/ane/enuma.htm

These Gods were called the Nephilim Nefilim, Elohim, the Anunnaki - "Those who from Heaven to Earth came."

In Sumerian Mythology they were a pantheon of good and evil gods and goddesses who came to Earth to create the human race. According to the some resources, these gods came from Nibiru - 'Planet of the Crossing.' The Assyrians and Babylonians called it 'Marduk', after their chief god. Sumerians said one year on planet Nibiru, a sar, was equivalent in time to 3,600 Earth years. Anunnaki lifespans were 120 sars which is 120 x 3,600 or 432,000 years. According to the King List - 120 sars had passed from the time the Anunnaki arrived on Earth to the time of the Flood.
http://www.crystalin.../sumergods.html pics also

The Epic of Atrahasis is the fullest Mesopotamian account of the Great Flood, but it offers more
When the gods were man
they did forced labor, they bore drudgery.
Great indeed was the drudgery of the gods,
the forced labor was heavy, the misery too much:
[5] the seven great Anunna-gods were burdening
the [lesser] Igigi-gods with forced labor.
http://www.livius.or.../atrahasis.html

[TheSearcher]

Consciousness, on 01 October 2009 - 07:24 AM, said:

I'm not going to debate with somebody with a closed mind.Whos programmed mind is too
programmed to see the bigger picture.

Yet this is what the site is all about and to be honest, if you expect everybody to just have sparkly eyes and say "yes!", then you're in the wrong forum. Here the rule of the game is : you claim it, you better be able to back it up with proof.

Saying you're not going to debate, because he has a "closed mind", well that's a bit weak, sorry. Besides, I can see where Phreak is coming from, I also have serious doubts about your claims. If you're serious about your claims, then by Zeus, fight for them.

[Consciousness]

Recently a Crop Circle Researcher decided to go so far as to carve out the words, "TALK TO US", in a near-by field where many "agriglyphs" are formed on a regular basis near Stonehenge in England.
The "response" was staggering!
A crop circle appeared which was in the form of ANCIENT FREEMASONIC SECRET TEXT - and it read, "APPONO ASTOS".
http://www.bibliotec.../reptiles28.htm

Over the past 2000 years it has all been about religion. Some people want to believe such and such, and will alter the facts or ignore the facts so that they can continue to believe their delusions.
the true history of planet earth being suppressed
http://www.bibliotec...arthhistory.htm

Geometry, suggest reviewing all crop circles that is higher help and can will reactivate dorment dna, crop circles are holographic inserts of projected thought by seraphim level beings 6th density
http://www.alien-ufo...op_circles.html

A whole list of links
http://www.bibliotec...ptiles.htm#menu

In our galaxy are billions of Star Beings. Humanoid races are the rule, not the exception. These races descended from many life forms: reptiles, insects, dinosaurs, birds and other life forms mankind cannot begin to imagine.
http://www.bibliotec...a_alien_20a.htm

links for the Anunnaki
http://www.bibliotec...-main.html#menu

Why does "mainstream" science continue to deny the historical and on-going existence of Extraterrestrial contact with human beings on Earth?
Why do science programs on Television, and in other mass-media foray like magazines, continue to maintain the apparent 'fiction' that humanity is still in search for intelligent life in the universe beyond Earth?
With that in mind, as far as modern religion, why does institutionalized Christianity correspondingly support this denial of Extraterrestrial contact, as manifested in "UFOs"?
http://www.bibliotec...tionalien16.htm

more links
http://www.bibliotec...nalien.htm#menu

The question is: how could the Sumerians know about the above things in days of old when there were neither telescopes nor satellites?
http://www.ufodigest.../sumerians.html

Reptilian looking entities found in Iraq - 5,000-4,500 BC.
http://www.crystalin...ufohistory.html

In 2012 a planet called Nibiru/Planet-X may reek real havoc on our planet as it passes through our inner solar system
http://www.surviving-nibiru.com/

Sumerian Artifact pictures
http://xfacts.com/ancient/

If all this is not enough proof then I don't know what else to tell you.

[Consciousness]

TheSearcher, on 01 October 2009 - 05:43 AM, said:

Yet this is what the site is all about and to be honest, if you expect everybody to just have sparkly eyes and say "yes!", then you're in the wrong forum. Here the rule of the game is : you claim it, you better be able to back it up with proof.

Saying you're not going to debate, because he has a "closed mind", well that's a bit weak, sorry. Besides, I can see where Phreak is coming from, I also have serious doubts about your claims. If you're serious about your claims, then by Zeus, fight for them.

I'm not going to debate with somebody who is hostile and judgemental.If they care to debate in an adult manner
then I will debate.