[sepulchrave]

If a skeptic may ask a few questions regarding your find;

Laser Les, on 14 October 2009 - 08:18 AM, said:

An ancient video message etched onto the surface of ....
Projecting from this stone etched (DVD) you will see...

• How is the video encoded? By `video' do you mean `series of pictures', or do the stones actually include some sort of frame-rate and rendering information, and if so how did you deduce these?
  
• The stone is an actual DVD? I am shocked that our wise ancient masters use ISO 9660 encoding. Or do you mean the stone is some sort of rotary storage mechanism? If so, how is the data read, what is the rotation rate, and what is the physical size of the fundamental bits, and how did you deduce these?

Not to sound snarky, but a sufficiently complex decoding algorithm can get the entire extended edition set of `The Lord of the Rings' from the surface of a pepperoni pizza. That doesn't mean the baker was some sort of artistic master trying to pass down audiovisual entertainment, just that some math/computer geek has too much time on their hands.

[Spend]

I have 1 question have you done any peer reviewed studies of these rocks

after flipping through your case studies all your findings seem to me to be based on pareidolia and opinion based conclusions

if your truly serious get your findings and methods checked over by some1 in the field of ancient iconology and symbology and maybe a geologist and/or an archaeologist also stop simply dismissing skeptics and fully answer questions

[digitalartist]

Laser Les, on 14 October 2009 - 11:08 PM, said:

The bible is highly accurate in describing the photo image of the crescent shaped vessel projecting from The Genesis Petroglyph:

3-decks
window in top deck
door in the side

This stone however is a visual codex of another tale...The Altrahasis. The visual information here pertains to the winged individual who holds the vessel (seen as a mirrored image in the attached projection). Notice his prominent front facing horn mounted to the strapped down (chakte) helmet and the singed suit. The symbols of this ancient deity along with the crescent shaped vessel identify him and this ancient tale from The Epoch of Gilgamesh.

The fact that this codex projection details a known and highly recognized star pattern (Orion) provides the clue to this time capsule stone etched message.

Really genius to use the guise of stone for this time capsule message...gold wouldn't have lasted long in a world of greed...skepticism and stupidity!

You are making an all too common error. The story should match the evidence, not the evidence, when manipulated, will support the story. If you have to mirror a part of a rock, you are not using the evidence but a manipulated version of the evidence, much like someone playing with numbers to get them to fit a theory.

The biblical and Epic of Atrahasis versions of the flood are different enough that using the bible to support the manipulated evidence then claiming that the manipulated evidence actually refers to the Epic of Atrahasis is at least deceptive and at most ludicrous.

Since I don't believe the constellation orion has changed much visually in probably the last 10,000 years, it can not be used to pinpoint a specific period in time.

If it were true genius, the stones would not have to be manipulated to produce the proper images.

[Agent. Mulder]

...still not answering me eh?
go figure

[NeoGenesis]

Agent. Mulder, on 15 October 2009 - 04:51 PM, said:

...still not answering me eh?
go figure

Yes.I kind of noticed this silent treatment action at the start of the OP's previous thread.

[glyndowers heir]

NeoGenesis, on 15 October 2009 - 06:10 PM, said:

Yes.I kind of noticed this silent treatment action at the start of the OP's previous thread.

Me too!
He must be researching his answer to my post really thoroughly
Yes thats what it must be!

[Laser Les]

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 09:10 AM, said:

[*]How is the video encoded? By `video' do you mean `series of pictures', or do the stones actually include some sort of frame-rate and rendering information, and if so how did you deduce these?

By definition, a hologram means 'a whole recording'. The petroglyphs appear to contain an overlay (stack) of photo-lithographic etched masks across the stone surfaces. Hologram images project as the artifact with incremental position changes within a 3-D axis plane.

To decipher the communications and develop the projections...I incorporate a variable combination of 3 independent factors:

1. Selective spectrum (specific visual wavelength) and illumination intensity.
2. Objective positon of the stone in the spherical plane.
3. Bi-lateral symmetry or mirror image of the visual info (typically across the Y axis).

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 09:10 AM, said:

[*]The stone is an actual DVD? I am shocked that our wise ancient masters use ISO 9660 encoding. Or do you mean the stone is some sort of rotary storage mechanism? If so, how is the data read, what is the rotation rate, and what is the physical size of the fundamental bits, and how did you deduce these?

Deciphering these artifact requires our current technologies including photography, incremetal positioning, spectrum wavelength and intensity control...therefore they are time capsule messages meant for modern humanity.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 09:10 AM, said:

Not to sound snarky, but a sufficiently complex decoding algorithm can get the entire extended edition set of `The Lord of the Rings' from the surface of a pepperoni pizza. That doesn't mean the baker was some sort of artistic master trying to pass down audiovisual entertainment, just that some math/computer geek has too much time on their hands.

Right...but this is not pizza pareidolia or whatever...this is real 3-dimaensional hologram projection.

I have attached 2 projections from The Unicorn Petroglyph showing the creature as it appears to lean foward are back.

For these recordings I incorporated 2 of the 3 variable factors:

1. Spectrum - grayscale negative

2. Image position perspective

3. Bilateral symmetry was not applied.

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[sepulchrave]

Laser Les, on 15 October 2009 - 07:07 PM, said:

By definition, a hologram means 'a whole recording'. The petroglyphs appear to contain an overlay (stack) of photo-lithographic etched masks across the stone surfaces. Hologram images project as the artifact with incremental position changes within a 3-D axis plane.

Hologram images are a `whole recording' at a single instant in time. The point of a hologram is that the perspective of the 2D image changes as the veiwing angle changes - in other words the image appears in `3D'. Holograms cannot be used to show a video unless the video is the view from an observer walking ~180 degrees around an object.

A vertical overlay of images can encode a video; but that is not a hologram. I suppose the most straightforward way of viewing such a video would be with different wavelengths of light - a technique which you mention applying.

Laser Les, on 15 October 2009 - 07:07 PM, said:

To decipher the communications and develop the projections...I incorporate a variable combination of 3 independent factors:

1. Selective spectrum (specific visual wavelength) and illumination intensity.
2. Objective positon of the stone in the spherical plane.
3. Bi-lateral symmetry or mirror image of the visual info (typically across the Y axis).

I would point out that `bilateral symmetry' does not help at all; no new information is added by reflection across an arbitrary axis - the added symmetry only helps make the pictures more convincing to the lay-person who does not understand what `bilateral reflection' means. Referring to the `Y axis' is also pointless; the axes are arbitrarily chosen by the person taking the pictures.

Secondly changing the illumination intensity is pointless. Illumination is just a scaling factor for the brightness of the image; it has no spatial dependence and therefore cannot be used to encode/decode any additional information.

Both the `selective spectrum' and `objective position' are, I suppose, legitimate techniques for encoding information. What is the bandwidth of each `selective spectrum', and what is the angular dependence for each `objective position'?

I would also point out that any effect of `objective position' is due solely to the orientation of the crystal planes at the surface in the small grains of the rock face - and therefore a highly suspect way of encoding information given that the rock was sitting around in the ground for (presumably) a few thousand years. Rocks do suffer wear and tear, even an extremely small amount of erosion would destroy this information.

Since the sample appears to be a slab of rock, any dependence on `selective spectrum' would be connected with local differences in surface structure, or (more probably, in my opinion), surface composition. If there is a synchrotron near where you live (unfortunately I think the nearest one to FL is probably CAMD in Baton Rouge) you could try begging a scientist to perform micro XAS imaging for transition metals (which often have characteristic colours); if the maps of concentrations of iron, cobalt, nickel, etc. follow various images then that would be some very convincing evidence that something is going on.

If you can't do that then try this: get as many different colours of laser pointers as possible and a digital camera. In a dark room set up the laser pointer and the camera pointing at the sample (I would recommend having the laser 30 degrees off the normal to the surface of the sample, and the camera at -30 degrees to start with). Slowly move the sample up and down and side to side, taking a picture of the laser spot on the sample each time. This way you are slowly scanning across the surface of the sample point by point. You can also change the angle of the sample. Once you have scanned the surface, layer all the images together into one complete picture. This should quantitatively show angular, spatial, and colour dependence of the sample. Post the results to your website and include the numbers (angle between sample normal and camera, angle between sample normal and laser, etc.).

Laser Les, on 15 October 2009 - 07:07 PM, said:

Deciphering these artifact requires our current technologies including photography, incremetal positioning, spectrum wavelength and intensity control...therefore they are time capsule messages meant for modern humanity.

Well... assuming there is some kind of message present (that's a BIG assumption); photography is not necessary for deciphering the artifact - all techniques in photography can be performed by optical filters and the experimenter can simply look through those. Incremental positioning, at least at the resolution you have worked with, has been possible for a long time. Both spectrum wavelength and intensity control can be performed by coloured glass or crystals. So the expertise to `decipher' these artifacts has been around for at least 2 thousand years.

[digitalartist]

Laser Les, on 15 October 2009 - 09:07 PM, said:

By definition, a hologram means 'a whole recording'. The petroglyphs appear to contain an overlay (stack) of photo-lithographic etched masks across the stone surfaces. Hologram images project as the artifact with incremental position changes within a 3-D axis plane.

To decipher the communications and develop the projections...I incorporate a variable combination of 3 independent factors:

3. Bi-lateral symmetry or mirror image of the visual info (typically across the Y axis).

Your statement should match the supposed image in the rock, not the image when manipulated supports your statement.

Laser Les said:

Deciphering these artifact requires our current technologies including photography, incremetal positioning, spectrum wavelength and intensity control...therefore they are time capsule messages meant for modern humanity.

Why is there no record of the supposed technologies these ancient peoples used to imbue the rocks with the images? Also why would they choose specific types of technology to be available to see the images when they had no way of knowing that we would even develope them? A true time capsule, reveals its information independent of tecnological capabilities.

Laser Les said:

Right...but this is not pizza pareidolia or whatever...this is real 3-dimaensional hologram projection.

I have attached 2 projections from The Unicorn Petroglyph showing the creature as it appears to lean foward are back.

For these recordings I incorporated 2 of the 3 variable factors:

1. Spectrum - grayscale negative

2. Image position perspective

3. Bilateral symmetry was not applied.

This ties into the first part of my post. This one example (the unicorn) needs no mirror imaging and if they were all like that it would help bolster your claim a bit. However, mirror imaging some of the rocks to get the desired images is just data manipulation. Any time data has to be manipulated to support a claim, the results are usually discarded.

This post has been edited by digitalartist: 16 October 2009 - 01:55 PM

[Laser Les]

Finally...an intelligence found on the U-M forum. Really boring...the 'same old skeptics flame' from those who hold nothing more than a mouse and keyboard.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

Hologram images are a `whole recording' at a single instant in time. The point of a hologram is that the perspective of the 2D image changes as the veiwing angle changes - in other words the image appears in `3D'. Holograms cannot be used to show a video unless the video is the view from an observer walking ~180 degrees around an object.

Or a hologram image making a 180° around the viewing source. The technology applied here is highly advanced and well beyond ancient or current inscription capabilities. The layered overlay pixel masks are contain the hologram images. The masks were photo-lithed onto the 3-dimensional stone surfaces (most likely using unknown photo-resists and multi-wavelength lasers. The result....a stone etched hologram image generator that works in all spatial planes. The petroglyphs were (HCl) acid tested and contain no carbon.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

A vertical overlay of images can encode a video; but that is not a hologram. I suppose the most straightforward way of viewing such a video would be with different wavelengths of light - a technique which you mention applying.

Perfect holograms not to be compared to the hologram recordings we embed onto pieces of flat mylar film.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

I would point out that `bilateral symmetry' does not help at all; no new information is added by reflection across an arbitrary axis - the added symmetry only helps make the pictures more convincing to the lay-person who does not understand what `bilateral reflection' means. Referring to the `Y axis' is also pointless; the axes are arbitrarily chosen by the person taking the pictures.

Using bi-lateral symmetry (mirror imaging across a lateral axis)...derived from analysis of the images and many ancient artifacts incorporating this factor (please see attached example). Visual information can be dramatically increased. Bi-llateral symmetry also works with many of the conventional glyphs found through out the world (examples). I did come upon this factor independently but it has been a valuable tool in deciphering ancient glyphic structures by others. Maurice Cotterell, the well known scientist and discoverer used this technique to decipher the Sarcophagus Lid of Pacal II from Palenque. Maurice derived his instructions to use this technology from the artifact itself...as did I.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

Secondly changing the illumination intensity is pointless. Illumination is just a scaling factor for the brightness of the image; it has no spatial dependence and therefore cannot be used to encode/decode any additional information.

There are a couple of current standards here that don't apply. These petroglyph holograms project images in 3 spatial dimensions. Distance from the object is significant to the projection...the hologram projected image of the crescent shaped vessel (the Ark) also embodies hologram images of the life forms captured in the decks of the ship. Hologram image projections with changes in depth of field and focus.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

Both the `selective spectrum' and `objective position' are, I suppose, legitimate techniques for encoding information. What is the bandwidth of each `selective spectrum', and what is the angular dependence for each `objective position'?

Spectrum wavelengths (~250nm to ~750nm) and tolerances (+/- 35nm)appear normal...gray-scale works well to identify photo image detail and glyphic structures. Angular perspective is critical as I have found complete photo-glyphic holograms codices at each 90° position. You see...the projections from these artifacts are orthographic in perspective and photographic in detail and dimension.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

I would also point out that any effect of `objective position' is due solely to the orientation of the crystal planes at the surface in the small grains of the rock face - and therefore a highly suspect way of encoding information given that the rock was sitting around in the ground for (presumably) a few thousand years. Rocks do suffer wear and tear, even an extremely small amount of erosion would destroy this information.

Agree...if the surfaces were natural stone (chert as geologists have been implied to these artifacts). However, the surfaces of these stone artifacts contain precision incisions and excisions over-layed with photo-lithographic info. The surfaces areas were encapsulated, anodized or cauterized (again...possibly using a laser) to preserve glyphic images. Certain artifact areas show this quite clearly. Petroglyphs fabricated like the monolithic IC...overlay distinct mask layers.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

Since the sample appears to be a slab of rock, any dependence on `selective spectrum' would be connected with local differences in surface structure, or (more probably, in my opinion), surface composition. If there is a synchrotron near where you live (unfortunately I think the nearest one to FL is probably CAMD in Baton Rouge) you could try begging a scientist to perform micro XAS imaging for transition metals (which often have characteristic colours); if the maps of concentrations of iron, cobalt, nickel, etc. follow various images then that would be some very convincing evidence that something is going on.

Partricle accelerators...even SEM or TEM would be nice! I receive no grants, no funding...I'm quite alone with this research.

Projected images from stone artifacts at any time and place under the correct conditions of spectrum and perspective.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

If you can't do that then try this: get as many different colours of laser pointers as possible and a digital camera. In a dark room set up the laser pointer and the camera pointing at the sample (I would recommend having the laser 30 degrees off the normal to the surface of the sample, and the camera at -30 degrees to start with). Slowly move the sample up and down and side to side, taking a picture of the laser spot on the sample each time. This way you are slowly scanning across the surface of the sample point by point. You can also change the angle of the sample. Once you have scanned the surface, layer all the images together into one complete picture. This should quantitatively show angular, spatial, and colour dependence of the sample. Post the results to your website and include the numbers (angle between sample normal and camera, angle between sample normal and laser, etc.).

Good idea...I have recorded projections at precise positional increments yielding contiguous or moving images (i.e. walking, kneeling, eyeball movements, etc). The most successful recordings come from medium format 2”x3” transparencies.

Spectrum specific illumination has been a function of digital applications...limited edition Photoshop and Infranview I use color levels, invert to negative, brightness/contrast, gray-scale, mirror imaging to translate the projections.

Wavelength specific (laser) illumination has been a longtime objective...included in an optical translation system I configured.

sepulchrave, on 15 October 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

Well... assuming there is some kind of message present (that's a BIG assumption); photography is not necessary for deciphering the artifact - all techniques in photography can be performed by optical filters and the experimenter can simply look through those. Incremental positioning, at least at the resolution you have worked with, has been possible for a long time. Both spectrum wavelength and intensity control can be performed by coloured glass or crystals. So the expertise to `decipher' these artifacts has been around for at least 2 thousand years.

What genius to embed the communications in stone...disguised until the technology to decipher the projection was developed by humanity.

Let me ask you something...How would you quantify a photo image with pattern recognition?

Thanks for your correspondence!

laserles

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Laser Les, on 16 October 2009 - 05:59 PM, said:

Spectrum specific illumination has been a function of digital applications...limited edition Photoshop and Infranview I use color levels, invert to negative, brightness/contrast, gray-scale, mirror imaging to translate the projections.

I suspected as much. Physically limiting the colour of the light source is better experimental practice.

Laser Les, on 16 October 2009 - 05:59 PM, said:

Wavelength specific (laser) illumination has been a longtime objective...included in an optical translation system I configured.

A `quick and dirty' fix is to just use a flash light with different coloured mylar or glass filters. But lasers are better; they have precise wavelengths, tight spatial dispersion, and are a source of coherent photons.

Laser Les, on 16 October 2009 - 05:59 PM, said:

Let me ask you something...How would you quantify a photo image with pattern recognition?

I'm no expert on the subject, but here's my advice:

Read up on Fourier Transforms and Cross-Correlations. Learning `the math' is tough, but it is necessary to make sense of what you are doing.

A bit of Googling brought me to this software: Free 2D Image Correlation Software which might work (I have absolutely no experience with it). Basically I would compare (by computing the correlation factors) images of the petroglyphs with images of faces, boats, etc. and also images of normal stones and random junk. If the petroglyph images have a higher correlation with the faces/boats/unicorns and whatnot than the random pictures then that is a quantitative result.

If you are serious about this I learn to program in Python and use the Python Imaging Library to compute the 2D Fourier transforms and cross-correlations directly. It is also easy to apply Fourier filtering to help block out noise in the pictures.

[Laser Les]

sepulchrave, on 17 October 2009 - 02:04 PM, said:

I'm no expert on the subject, but here's my advice:

Read up on Fourier Transforms and Cross-Correlations. Learning `the math' is tough, but it is necessary to make sense of what you are doing.

A bit of Googling brought me to this software: Free 2D Image Correlation Software which might work (I have absolutely no experience with it). Basically I would compare (by computing the correlation factors) images of the petroglyphs with images of faces, boats, etc. and also images of normal stones and random junk. If the petroglyph images have a higher correlation with the faces/boats/unicorns and whatnot than the random pictures then that is a quantitative result.

If you are serious about this I learn to program in Python and use the Python Imaging Library to compute the 2D Fourier transforms and cross-correlations directly. It is also easy to apply Fourier filtering to help block out noise in the pictures.

Sepulchrave...I would like to thank you for the information...very useful indeed.

Of, course when dealing with ancient images with no visual reference...it becomes difficult!

I attached a profile from The Unicorn Petroglyph. I'm convinced...will get back when I find a decent reference to compare.

laserles

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Laser Les, on 16 October 2009 - 07:59 PM, said:

Finally...an intelligence found on the U-M forum. Really boring...the 'same old skeptics flame' from those who hold nothing more than a mouse and keyboard.

Who ask questions you either have no answer to or refuse to answer because it may impact your theory in a way not to your liking. If your theory can not withstand scrutiny and questioning, then you are standing on the thinnest of ice in the middle of a frozen lake.

Laser Les said:

Using bi-lateral symmetry (mirror imaging across a lateral axis)...derived from analysis of the images and many ancient artifacts incorporating this factor (please see attached example). Visual information can be dramatically increased. Bi-llateral symmetry also works with many of the conventional glyphs found through out the world (examples). I did come upon this factor independently but it has been a valuable tool in deciphering ancient glyphic structures by others. Maurice Cotterell, the well known scientist and discoverer used this technique to decipher the Sarcophagus Lid of Pacal II from Palenque. Maurice derived his instructions to use this technology from the artifact itself...as did I.

You have not answered why some need mirroring and others don't. If they were using the same process then all the supposed images would either need mirroring or wouldn't

Laser Les said:

There are a couple of current standards here that don't apply. These petroglyph holograms project images in 3 spatial dimensions. Distance from the object is significant to the projection...the hologram projected image of the crescent shaped vessel (the Ark) also embodies hologram images of the life forms captured in the decks of the ship. Hologram image projections with changes in depth of field and focus.

As I said before, The story of the ark could not have happened as indicated in the bible. Little things like the build up of toxic gases that would have killed many of the animals aboard the ark before the trip was over.

Laser Les said:

Agree...if the surfaces were natural stone (chert as geologists have been implied to these artifacts). However, the surfaces of these stone artifacts contain precision incisions and excisions over-layed with photo-lithographic info. The surfaces areas were encapsulated, anodized or cauterized (again...possibly using a laser) to preserve glyphic images. Certain artifact areas show this quite clearly. Petroglyphs fabricated like the monolithic IC...overlay distinct mask layers.

What were the stones enclosed in (encapsulated)
Anodize is a process affecting only metal
Cauterize is a process affecting only biological organisms

Laser Les said:

What genius to embed the communications in stone...disguised until the technology to decipher the projection was developed by humanity.

laserles
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With no way of knowing that those technologies would even have been developed.

[Tim G]

I have to write a lot of college papers and one very important thing when cross referencing is peer review. Has there been anyone in your related field to validate your ideas? The ideas are there, but some thoughts are confusing.

Would your technique work on any stone? Is there a CHANCE of possibility that the rocks you looked at are coincidental? It's arguable that if you look into anything hard enough, you can find anything and everything.

Why has no one else been doing this? If so, they would have reviewed your work? Possibily tried their own experiment. When there are over 6 billion people on the planet, it's tough to be original enough to have no one else working on something that you thought interesting.

Like said prior, why do some rocks needs mirroring? If these beings were intelligent enough to inscribe, they surely would have kept it consistent. There is no advantage of changing the setup.
-Tim G

[Laser Les]

Tim G...I will respectfully answer any questions asked without arrogance and degradation...as you have!

Tim G, on 20 October 2009 - 07:11 AM, said:

I have to write a lot of college papers and one very important thing when cross referencing is peer review. Has there been anyone in your related field to validate your ideas? The ideas are there, but some thoughts are confusing.

AS my research is somewhat ground breaking in content...there are no peers to review my findings. I am dealing with ancient knowledge lost to modern humanity...that can now become understood! The multitude of developments posted online...are free of all advertisements and solicitations for review by any and all who care to look. The explanations come with complete reference to our database of modern human knowledge.

Right...I hold a degree in bio/anthro...experienced over 30 years in lasers, optics and micro-electrons mfg. Peers will not except an ancient, unknown and highly advanced stone etched inscription technology.

Tim G, on 20 October 2009 - 07:11 AM, said:

Would your technique work on any stone? Is there a CHANCE of possibility that the rocks you looked at are coincidental? It's arguable that if you look into anything hard enough, you can find anything and everything.

Any stone that has been scribed by the ancient and highly advanced inscription technology should project hologram images similar to those I have developed over the past 15 years. I believe collections or libraries of similar stone artifacts have been scattered throughout the globe. I have found examples in the SW deserts and mid-west heartland of the US. Referred to as shaman stones...providing a common database of visual information to ancient indigenous people.

If you click the attachments...you will see why this artifact cannot be the product of simple erosion patterns...the figure I have outlined is characterized by excise (out from) etched patterns and concentric lines and circles. This stone is no more a natural anomaly than the Capitol Rotunda in DC.


The technique I developed can be applied to conventional rock art. I have provided examples.

In Arizona, petroglyphs ordained my back yard for many years.

Tim G, on 20 October 2009 - 07:11 AM, said:

Why has no one else been doing this? If so, they would have reviewed your work? Possibily tried their own experiment. When there are over 6 billion people on the planet, it's tough to be original enough to have no one else working on something that you thought interesting.

There are others who hold similar artifacts...I call them 'petro photoglyphs'. I have found none who have developed their projections or tied them to the database of human knowledge. But then...who reviewed the research of Archimedes, Copernicus or Galileo?

Check it out for yourself...
Google a few of the keywords we are dealing with here: 'stone etched photographs', 'petro photoglyph', 'stone etched hologram projections'...let me know if you find someone?

Tim G, on 20 October 2009 - 07:11 AM, said:

Like said prior, why do some rocks needs mirroring? If these beings were intelligent enough to inscribe, they surely would have kept it consistent. There is no advantage of changing the setup.
-Tim G

Mirror imaging and bi-lateral symmetry can be found extensively throughout rock art (i.e. the Zoroaster) and may be a key to deciphering certain conventional petroglyph image structures throughout the globe.

Thanks again for your questions...answered to the best of my knowledge.

laserles

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