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#1    Matt121

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 05:33 AM

Here is the ABC news article

http://abcnews.go.co...=7760355&page=1

now here is the video what do you think?



at first I thought it could be a dog swimming or something but it does look like there is more behind it but it's to hard to tell really. Ever since I first heard the echo location recorded by a marine biologist I've been wondering if there is something really in lake champlain.


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Posted 22 October 2009 - 07:50 AM

That is really weird. I agree, at first it looked like a dog but as the video goes on it becomes apparent - that ain't no dog!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 08:49 AM

View PostMatt121, on 22 October 2009 - 05:33 AM, said:

Here is the ABC news article

http://abcnews.go.co...=7760355&page=1

now here is the video what do you think?



at first I thought it could be a dog swimming or something but it does look like there is more behind it but it's to hard to tell really. Ever since I first heard the echo location recorded by a marine biologist I've been wondering if there is something really in lake champlain.

ever since the echolocation findings I have been on board with the lake champlain monster idea there must be at least something undiscovered in the lake as there are no known bio sonar producing animals in the lake but I'm with the freshwater whale theory (or at least a member of the order cetacea) rather than the its a plesiosaur theory as whales were known to live in the area up to the time lake champlian became separated from the sea

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:23 AM

It's not very active...  I wish it would do something other than bob up and down...  Still a good video.   :tu:


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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:50 AM

View PostRoark, on 22 October 2009 - 09:23 AM, said:

It's not very active...  I wish it would do something other than bob up and down...  Still a good video.   :tu:
Having a realistic wake might be nice too.

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:51 AM

View PostSpend, on 22 October 2009 - 08:49 AM, said:

ever since the echolocation findings I have been on board with the lake champlain monster idea there must be at least something undiscovered in the lake as there are no known bio sonar producing animals in the lake but I'm with the freshwater whale theory (or at least a member of the order cetacea) rather than the its a plesiosaur theory as whales were known to live in the area up to the time lake champlian became separated from the sea

Well, if the accounts of some of the local are true, and they've seen it walking on land, it is neither a whale or a plesiosaur.  One theory of such creatures is a BIG, long necked, prehistoric type seal.  Leopard seals already have a reptilian looking head, and many "sea monster" accounts describe manes of hair.

Edited by draconic chronicler, 22 October 2009 - 11:53 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:54 AM

View PostMattshark, on 22 October 2009 - 11:50 AM, said:

Having a realistic wake might be nice too.

soooo.... your claiming it was a fake?


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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:56 AM

I've seen this before. I think the general consensus was it was most likely a log or a turtle, because it's not very far off shore and it doesn't move actively. If a "champ" were that close to the person videoing, it would be considerably larger, I'm guessing, based on the size of the wake going out/coming in. You would also probably see body movement, such as a bobbing head or rolling back, to indicate swimming. Here, there is nothing.

Edited by Ebonykrow, 22 October 2009 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 23 October 2009 - 12:19 AM

View Postdraconic chronicler, on 22 October 2009 - 11:54 AM, said:

soooo.... your claiming it was a fake?
I think it is likely.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 12:52 AM

I could be a toy or something being pulled by someone on shore, it does go pretty close to shore. Also, it looks pretty small compared to the estimated size that other eye witnesses claim. Plus, the photographer seems way to calm for someone filming Champ.


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Posted 23 October 2009 - 01:41 AM

One thing I noticed that it seems to be "kicking." Similar to a dog, but a lot larger. I'm curious what camera it was recorded on, because the zoom seemed very restricted. A log seems odd for that, because of that slight propulsion "kick" from what I see. Just my thoughts, I will be doing some analysis later tonight.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 01:46 AM

View PostMatt121, on 22 October 2009 - 05:33 AM, said:

now here is the video what do you think?


This footage has been discussed extensively in a previous thread (I cannot find it, though). It was less blurry then, this youtube footage appears to have been deliberately blurred.

One of the suggestions in that earlier thread was that this water monster was a dog or moose that walked on a shallow ridge to the shore; of course the camera man cut the film when the animal was about to go ashore.

Edited by Ell, 23 October 2009 - 01:47 AM.


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Posted 23 October 2009 - 02:41 AM

Thy wake was indeed puzzling at times.  I suppose it could have been a kick first impression was it seemed to have a little serpent action the head out was interesting could  pass for mammalian. I don't know but at least I know from the article that it is a protected whatever it is. Assuming its not a deer during deer season.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 02:47 AM

Here is a pretty good stabilized version:
CHAMP video enhanced and stabilized


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Posted 23 October 2009 - 02:56 AM

I thought there was already a thread on this.. :mellow:





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