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[Queen in the North]

Ebonykrow, on 24 October 2009 - 09:57 PM, said:

My first thought was, if she can't read that well, how can she read THIS book that only she can see? It's illogical.

[jesspy]

I would suggest that you keep an eye on her. asking more about the book might feed the issue i guess. talk to the school teacher and maybe the Principal and counselor. Myabe she should talk to a doctor too. When i was young (not that young) i would go on about people dying about the end of the world. I spoke to a few teachers counselors doctors and i had depression. So maybe that's worth looking into.

[Amariel]

Thanks for all your advice everyone, I'm trying very hard to figure out what is actually going on with my sister and all of this is really helping.

Paranormalcy - She refuses to talk about the book, I mean she says no one else but her can see it, so I don't think it's an actual physical book, but I've been starting to think that she associates books with things being 'true' so maybe, in her mind, if she believes that this information is true it has to have come from a book? I'm still not a 100% sure but I'll keep trying to ask her about this 'book'.
Rosewin - She doesn't normally try to seek attention. I'm 18 years older than her, and I have another sister who is 16 years older than her, so she's never short of having attention and she hasn't lied about anything big like this in the past just to get attention. This is why my dad and I were a little bit worried about the things she started saying. It is true though that she believes almost everything she is told, so if someone has told her this is going to happen I doubt her mind is sophisticated enough yet to distinguish fact from speculation.

Dad is still trying to find out if there is any other explanation to her believing these things, such as another child at school has told her or something along those lines, but he's thinking that maybe he should take her to psychiatrist or a psychologist to see if there isn't something else going on in her head.

[Purplos]

Perhaps another kid showed her the book, "for her eyes only," so to speak, and that is why she says she's the only one to see it. Or another kid could've just been talking about what they saw in a parent's book or heard from a discussion and she morphed it into a book. Unless her behavior is changing because of this, I wouldn't worry at all.

[glyndowers heir]

Amariel, on 26 October 2009 - 05:34 AM, said:

Thanks for all your advice everyone, I'm trying very hard to figure out what is actually going on with my sister and all of this is really helping.

Paranormalcy - She refuses to talk about the book, I mean she says no one else but her can see it, so I don't think it's an actual physical book, but I've been starting to think that she associates books with things being 'true' so maybe, in her mind, if she believes that this information is true it has to have come from a book? I'm still not a 100% sure but I'll keep trying to ask her about this 'book'.
Rosewin - She doesn't normally try to seek attention. I'm 18 years older than her, and I have another sister who is 16 years older than her, so she's never short of having attention and she hasn't lied about anything big like this in the past just to get attention. This is why my dad and I were a little bit worried about the things she started saying. It is true though that she believes almost everything she is told, so if someone has told her this is going to happen I doubt her mind is sophisticated enough yet to distinguish fact from speculation.

Dad is still trying to find out if there is any other explanation to her believing these things, such as another child at school has told her or something along those lines, but he's thinking that maybe he should take her to psychiatrist or a psychologist to see if there isn't something else going on in her head.

Has she ever had one of those interactive talking books, the kind where you put in different cards and a processor/speaker plays sounds and words as different pictures are touched by the child?

If she has she may be using this as a familiar thing to try to make sense of subjects she is hearing from older kids or has seen on adverts/in papers - she doesn't have to be able to read terribly well for her to pick up stuff like this.

She is probably just vocalising her fears for family members - have you just lost a close relative or friend, she could be scared shes going to lose all of you and shes trying to make sense of it

[KennyB]

Lilly, You underestimate how much the people of Russia love their country. They were not about to risk destroying their country over the likes of Cuba. They didn't need those missles, anyway. If it came to war, they had plenty of missle submarines within easy range of our whole East coast and thousands of bombers that could come in over Canada. Like I said, it was just saber-rattling. Oh, and Russia won the game. We didn't invade Cuba, did we?  KennyB

[HerNibs]

KennyB, on 26 October 2009 - 11:05 PM, said:

Lilly, You underestimate how much the people of Russia love their country. They were not about to risk destroying their country over the likes of Cuba. They didn't need those missles, anyway. If it came to war, they had plenty of missle submarines within easy range of our whole East coast and thousands of bombers that could come in over Canada. Like I said, it was just saber-rattling. Oh, and Russia won the game. We didn't invade Cuba, did we?  KennyB

WHAT does this have to do with the OP's little sister talking about a magical invisible book?

Lilly mentioned it in relation to fears that children become aware of without understanding all of the background.

Start a new thread.

Nibs

[digitalartist]

KennyB, on 26 October 2009 - 11:05 PM, said:

Lilly, You underestimate how much the people of Russia love their country. They were not about to risk destroying their country over the likes of Cuba. They didn't need those missles, anyway. If it came to war, they had plenty of missle submarines within easy range of our whole East coast and thousands of bombers that could come in over Canada. Like I said, it was just saber-rattling. Oh, and Russia won the game. We didn't invade Cuba, did we?  KennyB

Sorry Kenmny but it wan't a game and the point wasn't for us to invade (you may be confusing that with the bay of pigs) it was for us to keep nuclear weqapons out of Cuba at the time and the Russians did withdraw.

[digitalartist]

On topic, Your sister might have been told things by classmates that they heard from their parents, or one of her classmates may indeed have a book.

[Stormcrow]

I'm still confused about how a little girl who can't read suddenly can read her own invisible book.

[PatternSeq]

When we try to force the situation into a framework that we're comfortable or familiar with, we end up being the illogical and crazy ones; every bit as bad as your average mainstream "science" professional.  We don't know what she's tuned into.  We don't know her source.  Without that knowledge, to make declarations or judgements about the validity of that source is every bit as irrational as any label we could slap on her.  THAT is nuts.  Children are notoriously tuned in to things we can't remember being tuned into ourselves.  It would be far more logical (indeed, Captain Kirk) to create some kind of foundation for any decisions you're going to make about how valid her source is.  It's kind of silly to use our emotions to declare something as real or not real; to make something up and use that as the basis for declaring she's making stuff up.  "Show me, don't tell me" would be a good approach.  Get some details from her, as short term as possible, and see how things pan out.  Don't just stop with one event, but continue doing this ongoing.  Who is going to die and when?  And how?  Who's the first to go?  What else happens in the world?  This could be your survival: that child.  At least, by doing this, you'll have some kind of realistic foundation for deciding whether this is all just in her imagination.  Also she could be tuned into some "woo-woo source," but that doesn't mean that source is flawless, just because it's not in physical form.  Probe, dig, push, see what's there to be seen in terms that can be recorded and tracked.  What's there is there; reality does not adapt itself to our fears.

[Rosewin]

Dude there is no use for FBI tactics to get to the truth. It could just be fantasy.

Also supporting KennyB. The media always uses scare tactics. It was bread and circus regardless. There were many close calls during the Cold War but none were hyped up in the press. This one was but it was exactly that...hype and saber-rattling.

Edited by Rosewin, 28 October 2009 - 05:29 PM.

[Amariel]

It's hard to talk to her about 'the book' - she acts like someone who has been sprung doing something they know they shouldn't and just refuses to say anything else. I've tried asking her in different ways about it, I've asked her if she can show me the book, but she either ignores the question or tells me that I'm not allowed to see it. Dad has basically told the family to just act normal around her (so we don't freak her out, or encourage it) and I'm pretty sure he said he's booked her in to see a counsellor or something in a few weeks.

As a side note, in my opinion 'the book' isn't a physical thing, I think she thinks the information has come from a book.

[eqgumby]

Actually a very intersting topic.
I'm intersted to see if you get any more info from her. Sounds like a great movie plot too.
PS Start your own Cuba missle crisis thread. The military members that were actually on alert and sitting in idling aircraft (including troops and intel people that spoke Russian) would disagree with the assertion that it was "sabre rattling".

[skya]

Hi Amariel. I think it's a bad idea to take her to a counselor about it. Who knows if what she is "reading" is true or not, but in any case, I think getting psychologists involved is a bad idea unless you're looking to get her a prescription. I'll say it again, though I suppose it would depend on who you took her to, bad idea!

As far as the content of this mysterious "book" she's reading, it could very well come true, it also might not.

If it was me, I would tell her not to worry, and that someday, each and every one of us will die,(most likely) however sooner or later all depends on fate, and that no matter what, we'll all make it through somehow. I wouldn't worry about it, maybe just take note of it, and then get on with life, and see what happens next.

Edited by skya, 29 October 2009 - 11:57 PM.