[TALM]

thefinalfrontier, on 29 October 2009 - 05:14 PM, said:

To be completely honest here, I dont even know why anyone is enertaining this thread,

There is NOT any vegetation on the moon plants or otherwise,

Well, I respect your opinion, but what do you think about the other observations made by this man concerning moisture on the Moon?

Exactly where does the respect for this man stop and the disrespect start?

This post has been edited by TALM: 29 October 2009 - 04:27 PM

[Moonie2012]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 11:07 AM, said:

While I am disapointed in you, I am not amazed. You seem to be slinging a lot of unfounded false claims while not really knowing of which you speak. But as I said, I am not amazed. While you know nothing about the photo's in my collection, it seems you might be refering to threads I have posted that focus on different photo's from different missions. It's disappointing that you would assume my photo's are flawed based on unfounded speculation. But really, I come to expect this from you.

Oh no, you're disappointed in me. I shed a single tear.

So now none of the pics you have shown in the past are from your own collection? Is that what you are saying?

Also, please answer this: You have been proven to wildly misinterpret photos in the past (yours or otherwise); so knowing that, why should any theories you put forward be taken seriously?

This post has been edited by Moonie2012: 29 October 2009 - 04:40 PM

[thefinalfrontier]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 12:23 PM, said:

Well, I respect your opinion, but what do you think about the other observations made by this man concerning moisture on the Moon?

Exactly where does the respect for this man stop and the disrespect start?

It is not a matter of respect or disrespect for this man! it is however a matter of fact that it has long since been proven otherwise thru research and science,

[TALM]

Moonie2012, on 29 October 2009 - 05:30 PM, said:

Oh no, you're disappointed in me. I shed a single tear.

So now none of the pics you have shown in the past are from your own collection? Is that what you are saying?

Well dry that tear my friend because there is hope just around the corner.

I said nothing about the photos not being from my own collection.

But this is not about me, it is about you and the other viewers opinions on the scope of this mans research.

He made a lot of scientific observations and some of them are starting to be validated today such as water on the Moon.

Can we get off from making this thread about bashing me, and focus on it's intent?

thefinalfrontier, on 29 October 2009 - 05:30 PM, said:

It is not a matter of respect or disrespect for this man! it is however a matter of fact that it has long since been proven otherwise thru research and science,

Again, I respect your opnion.

[Spend]

TALM can I ask u something

do you believe there are insects/small animals on the moon
do you believe there is vegetation on mars
do you believe in planet X
and do you believe that venus is a watery world capable of supporting life?

[Moonie2012]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 11:40 AM, said:

Well dry that tear my friend because there is hope just around the corner.

Gee, I haven't heard THAT before. I think you may hold the new record for stalling.

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Can we get off from making this thread about bashing me, and focus on it's intent?

The intent of this thread was to back up your cockamamie theories by bringing this scientist into it. Should he be alive today, he would undoubtedly admit he was wrong about moon plants.

It's amazing how well you dodge answering questions.

This post has been edited by Moonie2012: 29 October 2009 - 04:47 PM

[TALM]

Spend, on 29 October 2009 - 05:40 PM, said:

TALM can I ask u something

do you believe there are insects/small animals on the moon
do you believe there is vegetation on mars
do you believe in planet X
and do you believe that venus is a watery world capable of supporting life?

!. Have have no idea. I havnt heard of any such thing.
2. I dont know, but I have seen evidence (loosly based) to suggest there might be. And this is from my own archives not the internet.
3. I dont know the slightest aspect of the Planet X question. Never heard of it.
4. I know nothing of venus.

So much I dont know, but what I do know, well...........I do know.

[Moonie2012]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 11:47 AM, said:

2. I dont know, but I have seen evidence (loosly based) to suggest there might be. And this is from my own archives not the internet.

Now you have original pictures of Mars as well? Your "archives" have things about Mars that you didn't find on the internet?

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[Sweetpumper]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 05:47 PM, said:

And this is from my own archives not the internet.

If it's not on the internet, it must be true!

[TALM]

Moonie2012, on 29 October 2009 - 05:44 PM, said:

Gee, I haven't heard THAT before. I think you may hold the new record for stalling.


The intent of this thread was to back up your cockamamie theories by bringing this scientist into it. Should he be alive today, he would undoubtedly admit he was wrong about moon plants.

It's amazing how well you dodge answering questions.

My belief is that is he was alive today, he would be ridiculed and shunned like me..............yes.

But, if I was to sit down with him in person and show him he was correct, well, he might just wet his 'Depends'.

Well, your partialy correct in some regards to the intent of this post, but what was going through my mind when I created it was to draw light to something I havnt seen posted here yet that some might find interesting.

Me dodging questions?

Sir............I "field" questions. I am just wishing not to go into my personal details of my research.

I didnt create this thread to get on a soap box and preach about my beliefs.

[The Silver Thong]

Talm can I ask a question. Are you a scientist yourself as you keep saying your research and stuff. Or is this just a hobby? The water on the moon is great and all and yes water general points to life of some kind however in this case the actual enviroment and atmophere on the moon would not allow any kind of life to live there. Yes the moon has an atmosphere but it is so thin it's almost unreadable. No life could exsist there buddy. The scientist you are talking about made educated guess's not scientific truth.

[Moonie2012]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 11:54 AM, said:

My belief is that is he was alive today, he would be ridiculed and shunned like me..............yes.

No, he would have changed his tune years ago. That's what scientists do, they change their theories as more evidence is brought in.

Seeing as how moon trees were found to have no basis in reality after we went there, he would not have a problem with that.

This post has been edited by Moonie2012: 29 October 2009 - 04:59 PM

[TALM]

Moonie2012, on 29 October 2009 - 05:49 PM, said:

Now you have original pictures of Mars as well? Your "archives" have things about Mars that you didn't find on the internet?

Think "Mars Bunny".

Look it up. Ask yourself when you look at the series of photos why NASA found it so important to run it over and squish it as soon as they unloaded the rover. They claimed i was either a piece of the parachutes or a piece of one of the landing bags. Then look at he photo of it squished into the ground and see if you agree.

Well when I saw the Mars Bunny, I fell out of my chair because it was the same stuff I had found on the Moon.

And no, I have never posted photos of it.

So yes, I found the Mars Bunny on the internet, but my validation of the possibiltiy of what is was came from my own collection. And no, I dont have any photos of Mars that raises any speculation of life.

[InsideOut]

[quote name='thefinalfrontier' date='29 October 2009 - 04:14 PM' timestamp='1256832875' post='3145273']
To be completely honest here, I dont even know why anyone is enertaining this thread,
/quote]
I only speak for myself but for me (and then presumably for 99.99% of everyone else who has encountered TALM's previous... `research` - a term applied extremely loosely) the reason is, entirely 100%, "comedy value".
Vegetation on the Moon? Come on, almost as amusing as those Apollo hoax fantasists.

[Spend]

TALM, on 29 October 2009 - 04:47 PM, said:

!. Have have no idea. I havnt heard of any such thing.
2. I dont know, but I have seen evidence (loosly based) to suggest there might be. And this is from my own archives not the internet.
3. I dont know the slightest aspect of the Planet X question. Never heard of it.
4. I know nothing of venus.

So much I dont know, but what I do know, well...........I do know.

1,2and 3 were all also either proposed by or backed up by william pickering's research I just wondered if you were into all of his more controversial stuff or just the ones that back your own claims

4 is just something he like many scientist believed at the time but as technology advanced turned out to be complete B.S. which shows what people "knew" in the 1920's wasn't necessarily correct.

if your interested he claimed there was small life forms living in the Eratosthenes crater and was very into mars until people started claiming there was higher life there which he didnt agree with that's when he started to re-examine the moon

I'm also surprised no1 posted this yet it was pretty easy to find http://query.nytimes...FB667838A639EDE