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The Portage County UFO incident ~ Ohio,1966.


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#1    karl 12

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:05 PM

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Very interesting UFO incident from Ohio in which multiple police officers witness and chase a UFO (Project Blue Book Record 10073) - the case was also the model for the scene in Steven Spielberg's film 'Close Encounters of the Third kind'.



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1966 Portage County, Ohio UFO Police Chase

On the morning of April 17th, 1966, police officers encountered a structured, low-level UFO, and gave chase. Officers of the Portage County, Ohio, Sheriff's Department first saw the object rise up from near ground level, bathing them in light, near Ravenna, Ohio, about 5:00 A.M. Ordered by the sergeant to pursue the object, they chased it for eighty-five miles across the border into Pennsylvania, as it seemed to play a cat-and-mouse game with them. Along the route, police officers from other jurisdictions saw the object and joined in the chase.

Deputy Sheriff Dale Spaur and Mounted Deputy Wilbur "Barney" Neff had left their car to investigate an apparently abandoned automobile on Route 224. Spaur stated:

"I always look behind me so no one can come up behind me. And when I looked in this wooded area behind us, I saw this thing. At this time it was coming up...to about tree top level. I'd say about one hundred feet. it started moving toward us.... As it came over the trees, I looked at Barney and he was still watching the car...and he didn't say nothing and the thing kept getting brighter and the area started to get light...I told him to look over his shoulder, and he did.

He just stood there with his mouth open for a minute, as bright as it was, and he looked down. And I started looking down and I looked at my hands and my clothes weren't burning or anything, when it stopped right over on top of us. The only thing, the only sound in the whole area was a hum...like a transformer being loaded or an overloaded transformer when it changes....



According to Spaur, as the four officers stood and watched the UFO, which had stopped and was hovering, there was traffic on the radio about jets being scrambled to chase the UFO, and "...we could see these planes coming in...When they started talking about fighter planes, it was just as if that thing heard every word that was said; it went PSSSSSHHEW, straight up; and I mean when it went up, friend, it didn't play no games; it went straight up."



Officer sketch of the object:
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Officer descriptions of the object:

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SPAUR-NEFF, UFO DETAIL  

  1.  Projection, tilted from rear (trailing edge) 18' long, tapered to to tip  

  2.  Dome-shaped top; partly metallic, partly self-illuminated  

  3.  Glowing front (leading edge)  

  4.  Cone-shaped light underneath  

  5.  Glowing tip of trailing edge  

  6.  Metallic surface  

  7.  Sharp "drop-off" (Neff disagrees; remembers more rounded here)  

  8.  Rounded "undercarriage"  

  9.  Line separating metallic from self-illuminated portions  
  
  
  SPAUR-NEFF, SIGHTING TERMINUS  

  1.  Bright spot to right of moon, a little above axis of symmetry of crescent  

  2.  Crescent moon (bump in concave portion indicates "nose" of "Man in Moon")  

  3.  TV antenna on nearby house, through whose elements Spaur and Neff saw the  
      UFO hovering before 1st upward elevation  

  4.  Position of UFO after 1st elevation, above moon (now moving away, or disappearing)  

    
  HUSTON, UFO DETAIL  

  1.  Cone-shaped light underneath  

  2.  Bright, self-illuminated solid appearing top  

  3.  Dome shape  

  4.  Cone tilted toward rear, of direction of motion, more so than shown here.


Edited by karl 12, 29 October 2009 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:08 PM

Reconstruction:




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The official Air Force evaluation has concluded that the case is explained by an astronomical phenomenon. When asked for details, they explained that the officers had seen a satellite at first, and then had chased the planet Venus for 40-odd miles. Absolutely none of the witness and investigators could agree with this..


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Officer statement to press:

"I've seen Venus many times, but I never saw Venus 50 feet above a road and moving from side to side like this was..."

Portage County Sheriff Ross Dustman to United Press International.


The 'investigation' by USAF Major Quintanilla actually consisted in a two minutes and a half phone call to the sole Dale Spaur, starting with this question: "tell me about this mirage you saw."
Then a second one minute and a half phone was passed again only to Dale Spaur. According to a written and signed testimony by Spaur, Quintanilla wanted him to sign a text specifying that the sighting lasted only a few minutes. When Spaur protested that it was at least a 60 miles car chase covering two states, Quintanilla put an end to the conversation.


Links:
http://hubpages.com/...o-UFO-Debunking
http://www.aliensthe...hp?view=1&ID=14
http://www.nicap.org/raven6.htm
http://en.wikipedia....ounty_UFO_Chase

Edited by karl 12, 29 October 2009 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:18 PM

Are you gonna start a thread for every single g-damn sighting that's been reported?

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:24 PM

Probably  

(especialy the cases with completely ludicrous USAF explanations like this one).

Edited by karl 12, 29 October 2009 - 07:25 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:39 PM

There are websites we can visit if we wanna read reports. What's annoying is you don't even say anything about the cases, you just post quotes, pics and links and flood this section with 'em. We can read these reports at those other sites.

1966? Who cares? If nothing's come of it by now, it never will.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:09 PM

Well I for one am glad of what karl12 is doing. Yes I do agree that we can read these reports on other sites, but this kind of thing is what this site is for. People bring stuff in for others to see. You can't really get mad for using the site the way its suppose to be used. I say keep up the good work.

As for the report. How often do you get one with such detail? Most of the time its just a light in the sky. This one has a description of the craft, an estimate of how high up it was, and how long it was followed. Now if we could get that picture that was taken we would be set. I just don't understand why they couldn't be released. The most I can see happening from it is people would be more open minded to the possibility. Not turning them into believers but get them to consider the possibility.

Any way, I say again, good job.


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:09 PM

Yes,you've been complaining a lot recently - at least threads like this one actualy bring the incident up for discussion.

Perhaps folks have never heard of this case before or are not aware of the outright discrepencies in the government 'version of events'.

Whatever the case - its probably far more constructive to attempt to actualy address the incident rather than just constantly gripe about posting methods.

This is a great UFO case - a thread exists about it on a UFO board -  get over it.


What do you think the object was, Venus?


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:14 PM

"its probably far more constructive to attempt to actualy address the incident "

I can't believe you just wrote that. LMAO!!!

Exactly.  :)


Great! At least discuss it then.

Edited by Sweetpumper, 29 October 2009 - 09:26 PM.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:16 PM

Hi Karl;

I seen this story posted on another site and I must say its interesting to say the least, No I dont believe it was venus they chased, Anyone with half a wit can tell the difference between venus and an object moving along at speed let alone chase it for such a distance, Its an intersting incident for sure,

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:29 PM

View Postywalme, on 29 October 2009 - 09:09 PM, said:

As for the report. How often do you get one with such detail? Most of the time its just a light in the sky. This one has a description of the craft, an estimate of how high up it was, and how long it was followed.

Ywalme,thanks for the reply -you're certainly right about it being an interesting case. :)
Apparently the Sheriff’s office code-named the object 'Floyd' as to not tip off civilians listening in on police band radio.


Heres another sketch of 'floyd':
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Interview with the Police witnesses:





As to the true nature of the object I have absolutely no idea what it was but Dr James E. Mcdonald who was senior physicist at the Institute for Atmospherical Physics in Arizona makes some very good points about dishonest USAF debunking tactics in this interview:

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Interview with Dr. James E. McDonald who discusses the Portage County incident and the subsequent 'unbeleivable' USAF conclusion:

September 24, 1968 Lecture,
"UFOs: A Case Study in Public Mis-information"
at Kent State University, Ohio


http://www.cohenufo....y2-McDonald.htm

Cheers.

Edited by karl 12, 29 October 2009 - 09:32 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:13 PM

View Postthefinalfrontier, on 29 October 2009 - 09:16 PM, said:

Hi Karl;

I seen this story posted on another site and I must say its interesting to say the least, No I dont believe it was venus they chased, Anyone with half a wit can tell the difference between venus and an object moving along at speed let alone chase it for such a distance, Its an intersting incident for sure,

Regards;

TFF

TFF,thanks for the reply -I think you're right about it not being Venus. :)

Theres also another UFO report from two Sheriff Deputies in the same area from ten days earlier:

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April 7, 1966; Mansfield, OH

Two sheriffs deputies while on patrol chased a bright round object at high speed, seeing it or a similar object five times. The UFO alternately hovered and sped up, the last time departing vertically upward.
http://www.nicap.org...1966fullrep.htm

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 02:44 PM

View Postkarl 12, on 29 October 2009 - 09:09 PM, said:

What do you think the object was, Venus?


View PostSweetpumper, on 29 October 2009 - 09:14 PM, said:

At least discuss it then.


Well,its a bit difficult to discuss if you refuse to address the incident.



View PostSweetpumper, on 29 October 2009 - 07:39 PM, said:

1966? Who cares?

If that's your attitude why bother posting in this thread at all?


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Posted 05 November 2009 - 07:10 PM

Above Bluebook UFO Government Conspiracy - The Portage County Incident.


Part One:
http://www.dailymoti...ment-consp_tech


Two:
http://www.dailymoti...ment-consp_tech


Three:
http://www.dailymoti...ment-consp_tech


Four:
http://www.dailymoti...ment-consp_tech


Five:
http://www.dailymoti...ment-consp_tech

Edited by karl 12, 05 November 2009 - 07:38 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2009 - 09:03 PM

Another sketch of Portage County object by Officer Dale Spaur:

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 04:35 AM

Just a thought?
1966 two Police cars Flying down the road at nite at what Speed`s ? Well At best 100 mph or so and Little E.T in His potentially Faster than Light Ship Letting them track it?
Close enough to see a shape and some detail ,allbeit  sketchy at best.
These pranksters must really know how to throttle back those babys ?
I mean even a few hundred milse per hr,would be less than a tenth of a precent of there flying speeds? maybe even one-one thousanth?

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