[Bad-Girl]

Hey guys, (:

I posted on here a few months ago about my mother and I's Ouija board experiences.
We have since experienced some things.
Such as knockings and whispering...

But one of the more interesting things have had occur happened in my room.
My mom for some reason never wanted to do the board in my room so I was like all the more fun. (:
We set it up at night at about 9:00 p.m. and started playing.
This person we talked to on the Ouiha board wasn't like the other spirits we have been contacting.
It's movements were much faster and the spirit acted frusturated and sad.
We got out of it (If this is true) that the spirit was 17 and killed himself in 2004.
The Plachatte at some points would move so fast our hands would fall off and it kept moving for a while then stopped.
I felt something cold against my ear and my mother said my ear was red. We asked if the spirit was touching my ear. It's reply was "kissing". Now, I'm not fearfull of the Ouija board and simply laughed at this remark. My mother freaked and never did the board again in my room. But after that I held up my hand and asked the spirit to touch my hand. After about 7 seconds I felt a sudden rush of cold against my hand.
Needless to say, we never did the board in there again.

We have been doing this board off and on atleast every other week for around 7 months. I never lose sleep out of the usage of the board but for the past 2 weeks I have been having horrible dreams not related to the board and wake up in a sudden fear. Could this be somewhat related to this spirit?

I am doing my science fair project on this board since I now am a Junior in high school.
I have bought a electronic voice recorder to see if we can catch any EVP's.
I am also going to be checking the temperature and using EMF detectors.

Tonight I am having a halloween party and we are going to be doing the board so I am going to be using the voice recorder tonight as a test. If I do catch anything I will post it on here.

Any thoughts on how I should perform my experiment?

Thanks,
Kimberly.

[sinewave]

Ouija or spirit boards as they are sometimes called are actually subconsciously controlled by the people using them. It is a phenomenon called the ideomotor effect and has been documented pretty thoroughly. They are fun and entertaining but unless you are demonstrating the ideomotor effect they are not science.

[Paranormalcy]

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I am doing my science fair project on this board since I now am a Junior in high school.
I have bought a electronic voice recorder to see if we can catch any EVP's.
I am also going to be checking the temperature and using EMF detectors.

While that's all fine and your chosen approach, you realize it is likely any teacher isn't going to either "like" your results, if they are against "occult stuff", or believe that you applied the scientific method properly, if your conclusion is that it "works and we talked to so-and-so".

If you really want to do a good turn on the project, even if you don't make it your focus, I still recommend you do the blindfolded experiment thing with someone else there to check the blindfolds and read any letters that DO get selected, get that all on video, etc. and then give the results, and your opinion on the results - I think that would show a good approach of checking out both angles on the board, pro and con.

I'm afraid I can't put any stock in just "feeling something/air on my arm/ear" - we are far too sensitive and suggestible, even to our own preconceptions and beliefs, and just feeling some cool breeze isn't a sign of anything - in fact, just sit there, think about a cool breeze on your hand, for a few minutes - see if you feel anything like that.

But good luck.

[Jerry Only]

I agree with Sinewave. Unless you are doing research on the "ideomotor effect", I can't see how this would be at all appropriate for a science fair. Now, a pseudo-science fair...

This post has been edited by Jerry Only: 02 November 2009 - 01:42 PM

[Alienated Being]

Your body is physiologically reacting to your subconscious fear of the board. The Ouija board is a toy.

[Vinland]

I don't think it is a toy and I think you should be careful using it.

You should post up your study when you have it done.

[Voyager10]

I think this is a great idea Maybe do a control, set up equipment to record when you aren't using the ouija board and see if EVPs of EMF spikes occur. If they only occur when you are doing the ouija board, then it would suggest a correlation? Maybe for display, do it like the Ghost Hunters reveal where they play back the EVPS are played on a laptop.

This post has been edited by Voyager10: 05 November 2009 - 03:01 AM

[Psiwolf]

Those things are dangerous unless you have an experienced psychic helping you and even then I would warn against it. I have read and heard more dark and bad experiences than good come from those things. There have even been a few cases of possession possibly linked to ouije board usage. Those things give a spirit a way into our world and it is hard as hell to get them to leave once they're here.

[Jerry Only]

Voyager10, on 04 November 2009 - 07:00 PM, said:

I think this is a great idea Maybe do a control, set up equipment to record when you aren't using the ouija board and see if EVPs of EMF spikes occur. If they only occur when you are doing the ouija board, then it would suggest a correlation? Maybe for display, do it like the Ghost Hunters reveal where they play back the EVPS are played on a laptop.

Who's to say it is the Ouija board that causes the presence of paranormal activity, as opposed to the user's intent to contact the paranormal. I have always felt oujia boards always get activity simply because of the users' honed intent to contact something paranormal.

So if my theory is correct the control portion of the experiment would show results, because of the tester's intent to contact something paranormal.

[Psiwolf]

Jerry Only, on 05 November 2009 - 07:59 AM, said:

Who's to say it is the Ouija board that causes the presence of paranormal activity, as opposed to the user's intent to contact the paranormal. I have always felt oujia boards always get activity simply because of the users' honed intent to contact something paranormal.

So if my theory is correct the control portion of the experiment would show results, because of the tester's intent to contact something paranormal.

There may be something to that. There was an episode of "Paranormal State" where this woman became obsessed with EVP recordings to the point where she began attracting ghosts to her.

[Paranormalcy]

Interesting angle, sort of a double experiment, one just the board, the other more abstract. Nice.

[randomhit10]

the problem is not the ouija board itself...the problem is that you are using it to try to contact a world that is better left alone...what is it that people think that the dead can tell us about living?...the worst problem is that there are entities who are not friendly toward us, very dangerous to us, will use us to stay in our plane of life...if you manage to make contact or open a pathway, not always happens, you will be the looser and will not benefit in any positive way from the experience....believe it or not...

randomhit10

[Paul Noise]

Psiwolf, on 05 November 2009 - 12:44 AM, said:

Those things are dangerous unless you have an experienced psychic helping you and even then I would warn against it. I have read and heard more dark and bad experiences than good come from those things. There have even been a few cases of possession possibly linked to ouije board usage. Those things give a spirit a way into our world and it is hard as hell to get them to leave once they're here.

the problem is not the ouija board itself...the problem is that you are using it to try to contact a world that is better left alone...what is it that people think that the dead can tell us about living?...the worst problem is that there are entities who are not friendly toward us, very dangerous to us, will use us to stay in our plane of life...if you manage to make contact or open a pathway, not always happens, you will be the looser and will not benefit in any positive way from the experience....believe it or not...

randomhit10

Do you have any type of reasoning or evidence to support these claims? This stuff is just fear mongering and in no way helps the OP with her experiment. This stuff is all from movies. How is it so easy for these spirits to come to "our" world, but nearly impossible to get them to leave? They're just random thoughts regurgitated from years of hearing the same thing thrown around paranormal TV shows, movies and urban legends. I used the Ouija board for years, as did many people on this forum, and none of us ever got possessed, nor had any type of actual contact with anything whatsoever except our own subconscious. So how is it that we managed to dodge the bullet, but people who have never actually used the board, which I assume neither of you have, know all this bad demons stuff?

Psiwolf, could you please provide a link or a reference for these cases of possession that possibly linked to ouija board usage?

This post has been edited by Paul Noise: 06 November 2009 - 02:08 PM

[randomhit10]

Paul Noise, on 06 November 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

Do you have any type of reasoning or evidence to support these claims? This stuff is just fear mongering and in no way helps the OP with her experiment. This stuff is all from movies. How is it so easy for these spirits to come to "our" world, but nearly impossible to get them to leave? They're just random thoughts regurgitated from years of hearing the same thing thrown around paranormal TV shows, movies and urban legends. I used the Ouija board for years, as did many people on this forum, and none of us ever got possessed, nor had any type of actual contact with anything whatsoever except our own subconscious. So how is it that we managed to dodge the bullet, but people who have never actually used the board, which I assume neither of you have, know all this bad demons stuff?

Psiwolf, could you please provide a link or a reference for these cases of possession that possibly linked to ouija board usage?

my family went through some problems because of our son using the ouija board...he was into demon worship and was using the board to try to conjure up demonic spirits...he finally woke something up...not sure what it was but it raised cain in our home...if you have never had a problem then good...i hope you don't ever...we did...don't take my word for it alone....ask the many others who have had problems...i didn't believe in demonic spirits either, until this...was a hard and scary lesson....if you try hard enough and long enough you will probably make contact...but i really hope you don't try...it will not be worth it...

randomhit10

This post has been edited by randomhit10: 06 November 2009 - 04:20 PM

[Erowin]

Science expirements usually mean proving things beyond a doubt, by reapeating the procedure many times and getting a steady result. I dont think you can apply that to the Ouija board. Finding EVPs while using it is cool and all, but I think your science teacher will not be happy.

Try Paranormalcy's suggestion: get a friend to use the Ouija board blindfolded, and go wherever their arms take them. I bet you'll find that when they can't see, it all become gibberish.