Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums: Oscar-Winning Hollywood Big Shot: - Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Forum guidelines

Please always respect the beliefs of other members. The bashing of specific religions, countries, races or belief systems is strictly disallowed. A lot of the topics in this section cover some sensitive areas and it is important to respect other people's views. This means no flaming, no flamebaiting, no trolling and no personal attacks.

From our terms of service:

2j. Preaching: Do not promote or push religious beliefs on to others, we have visitors from all over the world of many different faiths and we ask that all beliefs be respected. Using the site to preach to, convert other members or to 'advertise' a belief system is disallowed, this board is about letting people decide for themselves what to believe.

3e. Flamebaiting: Do not intentionally instigate "flame wars" or bait others in to making personal attacks.
 
3f. Abusive behaviour: Do not be rude, insulting, offensive, snide, obnoxious or abusive towards other members.

Members are asked to always provide a source link when copying and pasting material from other web sites, this also applies when quoting religious texts compiled by other sites or authors. Not providing a source link or reference when quoting material constitutes plagiarism.

This board is primarily aimed at discussing the very nature of spirituality and related topics, so skeptic vs believer style debates are to be expected. For general discussion of religious related topics please visit the Spirituality, Religion and Beliefs board.

Full forum rules and guidelines can be found - Here.
  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot reply to this topic
  • You cannot start a new topic

Oscar-Winning Hollywood Big Shot: Why I'm Leaving Scientology Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   The Infidel Guy 


  • Psychic Spy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 1,105
  • Joined: 25-June 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • The greatest obstacle in life is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge.

Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:15 AM

www.alternet.org said:

Paul Haggis, the Oscar-winning film-maker, has resigned from the Church of Scientology in an explosive letter that damns what he calls the organization's "hate-filled" and "bigoted" opposition to gay marriage.

Haggis, who wrote Crash, Million Dollar Baby, and the last two James Bond films also registered his anger at the church's alleged "disconnection" policy, complaining that it encouraged his wife to live estranged from her parents.

His letter was sent to Scientology's official spokesman, Tommy Davis, in August. But it leaked to the Hollywood press this weekend, bringing further tricky publicity to the already-embattled organization.

Posted Image Read more...

Scientology.... I don't know much about this religious cult all i know is that it is just that a "religious cult".

Peace

T.I.G
Posted Image


Being truly open-minded means accepting the possibility that you might be wrong. And if there isn't a chance that God may not exist, your close minded.

#2 User is offline   Dying Seraph 


  • Paranormal Investigator
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • View blog
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 849
  • Joined: 01-July 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:City of Angels, California

  • ~"Blessed are we who laugh at ourselves for we never cease to be amused!"~

    ~"Remember, Smiling=Sexy, Frowning=Wrinkles."~

Posted 04 November 2009 - 05:52 AM

View PostThe Infidel Guy, on 02 November 2009 - 06:15 PM, said:

Scientology.... I don't know much about this religious cult all i know is that it is just that a "religious cult".

Peace

T.I.G

Good for him. Leaving over principle.

I wonder how the Church of Scientology will respond to such a high profile person insulting them? :unsure2: If he comes up missing in a few weeks is it safe to assume the Church got to him?

:devil:
The angel of self-deceit is camped in the souls of the "Righteous"---The eternal flame of power through joy dwellith within the flesh of the Satanist!--Anton Szandor LaVey

"The best way to make our dreams come true is to wake up!"--Paul Valery

We are all carnal creatures by design. Some of us spiritually embrace this while others religiously deny it.

#3 User is offline   The Silver Thong 


  • Forum Divinity
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 14,987
  • Joined: 02-December 04
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:CALGARY,CANADA

  • When is a fact a fact ?

Posted 04 November 2009 - 06:02 AM

To be Frank lol I'm actually Jeff Scientology isn't or is not a religion, it's worse! A cult oh ya, dangerous? oh ya same coin different angle, yet the same ideology. We are right and you are wrong so here are our rules :rolleyes:
Man is where man is because of man...

How could you not look? It was like a (well) orchestrated train wreck !

Mine ;)

" Insanity in individuals is something rare, but in groups,parties,nations and epochs it is the rule"

Nietzsche

#4 User is offline   exeller 


  • Poltergeist
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 2,944
  • Joined: 18-February 06
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:27 AM

Why the hell would anyone believe in Scientology in the first place.

You know something is messed up when your religion was founded by a BLOODY SCIENCE FICTION WRITER.

#5 User is online   HerNibs 


  • Grand Duchess Anaesthesia
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 5,132
  • Joined: 03-January 07
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Colorado

  • Intelligence is sexy.

    Josh Gates sounds like Kermit the Frog. (IMHO) *loves him anyway*

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:28 AM

WHOO HOO!!!

Nibs
It is one thing to have an open mind, everyone should.
It is another thing to open your mind and slap a "For Rent/Best Offer/First Come First Served" sign on it.

Just because it is a mystery to YOU doesn't make it unexplained.

#6 User is offline   Rhungobains 


  • Apparition
  • PipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 310
  • Joined: 06-July 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, England

  • There's a moral to this story
    Though your cordwangle be poor -
    Keep your hands off others moulies,
    For it is against the law...

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:29 AM

View Postexeller, on 05 November 2009 - 02:27 AM, said:

Why the hell would anyone believe in Scientology in the first place.

You know something is messed up when your religion was founded by a BLOODY SCIENCE FICTION WRITER.


And a rubbish one at that.
I love you, Dr Johnson, and I want to have your babies...

#7 User is offline   exeller 


  • Poltergeist
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 2,944
  • Joined: 18-February 06
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:32 AM

View PostRhungobains, on 05 November 2009 - 02:29 AM, said:

And a rubbish one at that.


I know. Just look how they ruined Tom Cruise and John Travolta for me, not to mention CHEF from south park.

The UN-funny truth about Scientology

#8 User is online   HerNibs 


  • Grand Duchess Anaesthesia
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 5,132
  • Joined: 03-January 07
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Colorado

  • Intelligence is sexy.

    Josh Gates sounds like Kermit the Frog. (IMHO) *loves him anyway*

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:33 AM

Great expose of the church.

Scientology

Defectors and whistleblowers all over the place. :)

Nibs
It is one thing to have an open mind, everyone should.
It is another thing to open your mind and slap a "For Rent/Best Offer/First Come First Served" sign on it.

Just because it is a mystery to YOU doesn't make it unexplained.

#9 User is offline   Rhungobains 


  • Apparition
  • PipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 310
  • Joined: 06-July 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, England

  • There's a moral to this story
    Though your cordwangle be poor -
    Keep your hands off others moulies,
    For it is against the law...

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:38 AM

Poor Isaac. RIP.


I'd read those articles but my internet isn't having it right now for some strange reason. I think Xenu's onto us. :alien:
I love you, Dr Johnson, and I want to have your babies...

#10 User is offline   The Infidel Guy 


  • Psychic Spy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 1,105
  • Joined: 25-June 09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sydney

  • The greatest obstacle in life is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge.

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:43 AM

View Postexeller, on 04 November 2009 - 06:32 PM, said:

I know. Just look how they ruined Tom Cruise and John Travolta for me, not to mention CHEF from south park.

The UN-funny truth about Scientology


Wow that was a fantastic video and alot of information i was not aware of.

Thanks for that.

Peace

T.I.G
Posted Image


Being truly open-minded means accepting the possibility that you might be wrong. And if there isn't a chance that God may not exist, your close minded.

#11 User is online   HerNibs 


  • Grand Duchess Anaesthesia
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 5,132
  • Joined: 03-January 07
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Colorado

  • Intelligence is sexy.

    Josh Gates sounds like Kermit the Frog. (IMHO) *loves him anyway*

Posted 05 November 2009 - 02:54 AM

View PostRhungobains, on 04 November 2009 - 07:38 PM, said:

Poor Isaac. RIP.


I'd read those articles but my internet isn't having it right now for some strange reason. I think Xenu's onto us. :alien:



We must always be prepared. :P

Posted Image

Nibs
It is one thing to have an open mind, everyone should.
It is another thing to open your mind and slap a "For Rent/Best Offer/First Come First Served" sign on it.

Just because it is a mystery to YOU doesn't make it unexplained.

#12 User is offline   exeller 


  • Poltergeist
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 2,944
  • Joined: 18-February 06
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 November 2009 - 03:01 AM

View PostThe Infidel Guy, on 05 November 2009 - 02:43 AM, said:

Wow that was a fantastic video and alot of information i was not aware of.

Thanks for that.

Peace

T.I.G


Yeah it was a good video. I tried to find a video from the south park episode about scientology, but I couldn't find it.
If you can watch that episode, it is really eye opening. They actually show what scientologists believe.

It boggles the mind how some people can actually buy into such nonsense.

This post has been edited by exeller: 05 November 2009 - 03:02 AM

#13 User is offline   theGhost_and_theDarkness 


  • Psychic Spy
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • View blog
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 1,234
  • Joined: 21-June 05
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Southern Alabama

  • Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live. - Norman Cousins

Posted 05 November 2009 - 06:29 AM

View Postexeller, on 04 November 2009 - 08:27 PM, said:

Why the hell would anyone believe in Scientology in the first place.

You know something is messed up when your religion was founded by a BLOODY SCIENCE FICTION WRITER.



EXACTLY!!!! That's what I say! Not to mention an author who said that the best way to make money was to start a religion. I know the church denies that, but I think he really did say it. I can't wrap my mind around it! My brain actually refuses to comprehend the actions of the CoS followers. . .and I feel bad for that because I generally try to make myself understand other peoples motives.

I don't understand how they condemn psychology, yet the very base levels of their program is just very basic psychology. . .

And yeah, it totally ruined Chef for me too. . . I can't even watch South Park episodes with him in it any more without becoming baffled.

I did however read on one of the anti-CoS sites that the celebrity version of Scientology was different from the "normal" persons. . .because celebrities are high profile and attract attention and church followers (which leads to more money) and they don't want to scare the celebs off with the crazy stuff.
"To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge." ~ Benjamin Disraeli

#14 User is offline   Condescending 


  • Astral Projection
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 660
  • Joined: 16-February 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Denmark

  • Patience is the companion of wisdom

Posted 05 November 2009 - 08:36 PM

View PosttheGhost_and_theDarkness, on 05 November 2009 - 07:29 AM, said:

EXACTLY!!!! That's what I say! Not to mention an author who said that the best way to make money was to start a religion. I know the church denies that, but I think he really did say it. I can't wrap my mind around it! My brain actually refuses to comprehend the actions of the CoS followers. . .and I feel bad for that because I generally try to make myself understand other peoples motives.

I don't understand how they condemn psychology, yet the very base levels of their program is just very basic psychology. . .

And yeah, it totally ruined Chef for me too. . . I can't even watch South Park episodes with him in it any more without becoming baffled.

I did however read on one of the anti-CoS sites that the celebrity version of Scientology was different from the "normal" persons. . .because celebrities are high profile and attract attention and church followers (which leads to more money) and they don't want to scare the celebs off with the crazy stuff.


One psychological aspect to take note of if one wishes to try and understand the CoS's succes is that they borrowed from religions that stood the test of time so to speak.

I for excample took note that while older religions say "What are your sins?" The CoS's says "What are your crimes?"


This post has been edited by Condescending: 05 November 2009 - 08:38 PM

< My Garden >

#15 User is online   HerNibs 


  • Grand Duchess Anaesthesia
  • Icon
  • Group: Member
  • Posts: 5,132
  • Joined: 03-January 07
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Colorado

  • Intelligence is sexy.

    Josh Gates sounds like Kermit the Frog. (IMHO) *loves him anyway*

Posted 05 November 2009 - 08:39 PM

View PostCondescending, on 05 November 2009 - 01:36 PM, said:

One psychological aspect to take note of if one wishes to try and understand the CoS's succes is that they borrowed from religions that stood the test of time so to speak.

I for excample took note that while older religions say "What are your sins?" The CoS's says "What are your crimes?"




Oooh. That woman gives me the creeps. Did they suspect she blew?

Jenna Elfman pulled this on someone...gonna go find that.

Nibs
It is one thing to have an open mind, everyone should.
It is another thing to open your mind and slap a "For Rent/Best Offer/First Come First Served" sign on it.

Just because it is a mystery to YOU doesn't make it unexplained.
  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot reply to this topic
  • You cannot start a new topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users