[Sein_Engel09]

okay, will someone please explain to me why the hell there is so much hatred for people of different religious beliefs than another person? its ridiculous, childish and a waste of time. i really dont understand why people get this rush or satisfaction from bashing others beliefs. yes, i realize its been happening for as long as religion has been around in different times, but its the 21st century, dont you think its time to grow up and drop this non sense? seriously, of all the things occuring in this day and age, don't you think worrying about what other peoples religious beliefs should be one of the last things on our minds? its possible for people of opposing religions to get along. take my fiance and me for example. he is a hardxcore christian and i am a wiccan. we get along beautifully and are, obviously, getting married. im not sayin that everyone in every religion should do this, but its an example of how people can get along even though they dont have the same religious views.
i shall digress...i caught myself ranting.
please let me know your opinions.

[Tsukasa]

Sein_Engel09, on 03 November 2009 - 06:17 PM, said:

okay, will someone please explain to me why the hell there is so much hatred for people of different religious beliefs than another person? its ridiculous, childish and a waste of time. i really dont understand why people get this rush or satisfaction from bashing others beliefs. yes, i realize its been happening for as long as religion has been around in different times, but its the 21st century, dont you think its time to grow up and drop this non sense? seriously, of all the things occuring in this day and age, don't you think worrying about what other peoples religious beliefs should be one of the last things on our minds? its possible for people of opposing religions to get along. take my fiance and me for example. he is a hardxcore christian and i am a wiccan. we get along beautifully and are, obviously, getting married. im not sayin that everyone in every religion should do this, but its an example of how people can get along even though they dont have the same religious views.
i shall digress...i caught myself ranting.
please let me know your opinions.

Ignorance.

Ignorance breeds fear, fear then breeds hatred and intolerance.

That's how I look at it anyway.

[maximaldecimal]

Tsukasa, on 03 November 2009 - 04:33 PM, said:

Ignorance.

Ignorance breeds fear, fear then breeds hatred and intolerance.

That's how I look at it anyway.

Or to quote Yoda,
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. Fear is the path of the darkside."

It is funny sometimes how hate is justified by an attempt to spread doctrine. I find it most odd that there are usually tennets of mercy and forgiveness within these doctrine's.

[Wearer of Hats]

ignorance and fear, mixed in with just a touch of "the different person is different, so if I/we villify that is different I/we will feel better about myself/ourselves".

[Sylent Nyte]

Sein_Engel09, on 03 November 2009 - 10:17 PM, said:

okay, will someone please explain to me why the hell there is so much hatred for people of different religious beliefs than another person? its ridiculous, childish and a waste of time. i really dont understand why people get this rush or satisfaction from bashing others beliefs. yes, i realize its been happening for as long as religion has been around in different times, but its the 21st century, dont you think its time to grow up and drop this non sense? seriously, of all the things occuring in this day and age, don't you think worrying about what other peoples religious beliefs should be one of the last things on our minds? its possible for people of opposing religions to get along. take my fiance and me for example. he is a hardxcore christian and i am a wiccan. we get along beautifully and are, obviously, getting married. im not sayin that everyone in every religion should do this, but its an example of how people can get along even though they dont have the same religious views.
i shall digress...i caught myself ranting.
please let me know your opinions.

Because simply, people would rather dissent than educate themselves for the sole reason that it is the easier option undertake. I was once of this mindset, and allow me to point out that it brings nothing productive. Over time I have read the Koran, Bhagavad Ghita as well as no less than two different versions of the Bible(as well as other religious texts)that were lent to me by good friends of different faiths.

It has led me to the conclusion that "faith" must be accompanied by good sense and sound logic, the alternative being that one will be controlled by it should their own minds not be up to the task of separating what "is" and what "might be."

[Psykonos777]

The street runs both ways. Many religious people are happy to express disdain to non-religious/skeptic people but decry the injustice when it's done to them.

But I seriously think people get too hung up on what other people believe. I follow my own belief system very passionately paired with a dose of reality and logic. And yet I have no problem becoming friends with someone who believes in something different than me.

[karl 12]

Psykonos777, on 04 November 2009 - 12:28 PM, said:

The street runs both ways. Many religious people are happy to express disdain to non-religious/skeptic people but decry the injustice when it's done to them.

[Blood_Sacrifice]

The cartoon above sums it up. Besides, how can you not bash something that urges us to kill non-religious people, stone prostitutes, etc? It's impossible. It's not the people who are bashed - it's the Faith.

[SpiderCyde]

Sein_Engel09, on 03 November 2009 - 05:17 PM, said:

okay, will someone please explain to me why the hell there is so much hatred for people of different religious beliefs than another person? its ridiculous, childish and a waste of time. i really dont understand why people get this rush or satisfaction from bashing others beliefs. yes, i realize its been happening for as long as religion has been around in different times, but its the 21st century, dont you think its time to grow up and drop this non sense? seriously, of all the things occuring in this day and age, don't you think worrying about what other peoples religious beliefs should be one of the last things on our minds? its possible for people of opposing religions to get along. take my fiance and me for example. he is a hardxcore christian and i am a wiccan. we get along beautifully and are, obviously, getting married. im not sayin that everyone in every religion should do this, but its an example of how people can get along even though they dont have the same religious views. i shall digress...i caught myself ranting. please let me know your opinions.

I'm leaning towards a belief that the times of religious persecution are right around the corner again. If you watch, every day things become worse in terms of animosity towards the religious crowds. A lot of it is unjustified trend following by closed minded, bigoted morons, much like racist attitudes. All religious intolerance is, is a slick facade painted directly over the top of racist ideals. It's disturbing that so many are so ignorant of that. I honestly believe that there is a tiny portion of the global population who are so vastly superior spiritually, intellectually, and morally that the rest of humanity is basically left fumbling about spewing their hatred and intolerance because that's the only concept they seem to understand when it comes to religion. I can almost guarantee if certain celebrities and/or political individuals (you know who I'm talking about) said in a round about way, "let's eliminate everyone who is religious", those who are religious wouldn't be here anymore. To me, that's where things seem to eventually be headed.

This post has been edited by SpiderCyde: 04 November 2009 - 03:07 PM

[HerNibs]

Sein_Engel09, on 03 November 2009 - 03:17 PM, said:

okay, will someone please explain to me why the hell there is so much hatred for people of different religious beliefs than another person? its ridiculous, childish and a waste of time. i really dont understand why people get this rush or satisfaction from bashing others beliefs. yes, i realize its been happening for as long as religion has been around in different times, but its the 21st century, dont you think its time to grow up and drop this non sense? seriously, of all the things occuring in this day and age, don't you think worrying about what other peoples religious beliefs should be one of the last things on our minds? its possible for people of opposing religions to get along. take my fiance and me for example. he is a hardxcore christian and i am a wiccan. we get along beautifully and are, obviously, getting married. im not sayin that everyone in every religion should do this, but its an example of how people can get along even though they dont have the same religious views.
i shall digress...i caught myself ranting.
please let me know your opinions.

Well, you may want to avoid forums with the words spirituality, religion, beliefs, skeptic, etc.

The basis of most religions is that "X" religion knows the "real truth" and should spread this "truth" to the unwashed masses. While I find it facinating to study various religions and to try to understand WHY a person believes "X" with no evidence or scientific backing, many religions and the followers find it to be an attack on their beliefs and themselves personally when you pose any contradicting questions.

Many of us are not satisfied with "goddidit" as the answer because it is a nonsense answer used to fill in any blanks or contradictions.

Yes, there is a great deal of "bashing" on either side but I find most of it is an over reaction based on the feeling of feeling attacked.

Without these examinations of the why, who, when, etc. we will stagnate and stop growing as a society. Many religions encourage the blind acceptance of the faith and discourage any questioning. THIS is something I find offensive and a belief that should be changed and challenged.

Without the challenges to religion we would still be owning slaves, women would be second class citizens and many would be dead because of the dependence on prayer and "god's will".

Just my opinion.

Nibs

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HerNibs, on 04 November 2009 - 07:00 AM, said:

Well, you may want to avoid forums with the words spirituality, religion, beliefs, skeptic, etc.

The basis of most religions is that "X" religion knows the "real truth" and should spread this "truth" to the unwashed masses. While I find it facinating to study various religions and to try to understand WHY a person believes "X" with no evidence or scientific backing, many religions and the followers find it to be an attack on their beliefs and themselves personally when you pose any contradicting questions.

Many of us are not satisfied with "goddidit" as the answer because it is a nonsense answer used to fill in any blanks or contradictions.

Yes, there is a great deal of "bashing" on either side but I find most of it is an over reaction based on the feeling of feeling attacked.

Without these examinations of the why, who, when, etc. we will stagnate and stop growing as a society. Many religions encourage the blind acceptance of the faith and discourage any questioning. THIS is something I find offensive and a belief that should be changed and challenged.

Without the challenges to religion we would still be owning slaves, women would be second class citizens and many would be dead because of the dependence on prayer and "god's will".

Just my opinion.

Nibs

Bravo, Well said.

I'd add, what she said ....

[randomhit10]

HerNibs, on 04 November 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

Well, you may want to avoid forums with the words spirituality, religion, beliefs, skeptic, etc.

The basis of most religions is that "X" religion knows the "real truth" and should spread this "truth" to the unwashed masses. While I find it facinating to study various religions and to try to understand WHY a person believes "X" with no evidence or scientific backing, many religions and the followers find it to be an attack on their beliefs and themselves personally when you pose any contradicting questions.

Many of us are not satisfied with "goddidit" as the answer because it is a nonsense answer used to fill in any blanks or contradictions.

Yes, there is a great deal of "bashing" on either side but I find most of it is an over reaction based on the feeling of feeling attacked.

Without these examinations of the why, who, when, etc. we will stagnate and stop growing as a society. Many religions encourage the blind acceptance of the faith and discourage any questioning. THIS is something I find offensive and a belief that should be changed and challenged.

Without the challenges to religion we would still be owning slaves, women would be second class citizens and many would be dead because of the dependence on prayer and "god's will".

Just my opinion.

Nibs

i agree and i understand what you are saying....i think the bashing comes when someone makes an effort to be difficult in queations and answers, a deliberate attempt to be misunderstood in order to start arguements....to become personally offensive to others for the sole reason of just to do it....and i know it goes both ways...

to try to understand why someone believes as they do is fine and i would encourage that as much as possible...

randonhit10

[IamsSon]

Sein_Engel09, on 03 November 2009 - 04:17 PM, said:

okay, will someone please explain to me why the hell there is so much hatred for people of different religious beliefs than another person? its ridiculous, childish and a waste of time. i really dont understand why people get this rush or satisfaction from bashing others beliefs. yes, i realize its been happening for as long as religion has been around in different times, but its the 21st century, dont you think its time to grow up and drop this non sense? seriously, of all the things occuring in this day and age, don't you think worrying about what other peoples religious beliefs should be one of the last things on our minds? its possible for people of opposing religions to get along. take my fiance and me for example. he is a hardxcore christian and i am a wiccan. we get along beautifully and are, obviously, getting married. im not sayin that everyone in every religion should do this, but its an example of how people can get along even though they dont have the same religious views.
i shall digress...i caught myself ranting.
please let me know your opinions.

What does "hardcore Christian" mean to you/your fiance?

[Sein_Engel09]

IamsSon, on 04 November 2009 - 10:58 AM, said:

What does "hardcore Christian" mean to you/your fiance?

he is a nazaren. its a stricter branch of christianity. that's what i was implying.

[IamsSon]

Sein_Engel09, on 04 November 2009 - 12:01 PM, said:

he is a nazaren. its a stricter branch of christianity. that's what i was implying.

OK, so he is part of that denomination, but does he actually adhere to their beliefs?

The reason I ask is that "Christian" has become a very watered-down term which almost has no real meaning. According to Nazarene beliefs he is supposed to be very intent about making Christlike disciples in the nations, does he do that? Or is he someone who was raised in a Nazarene house but doesn't really practice?