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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:35 PM

View Postzach28, on 04 November 2009 - 09:19 PM, said:

Interesting. Well like i said i tend to be more of a skeptic when it comes to religion as a whole. But if indeed god and anfgels do exist, I'm sure demons would exist as well. But even the catholic church dismesses most cases of possession as psychological disorders. And nine times out of ten that's what it ends up being and the person is treated with strong meds and therapy.



Demons IMO are created by man like a scare tactic to push you towards god..............thats how I see it
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:37 PM

View PostChloeB, on 04 November 2009 - 09:17 PM, said:

I think so too. History Channel had a thing about exorcisms and it called exorcism a form of radical therapy, and that's about what I think it's all about. They are convinced they have a demon, get an exorcism, they are convinced it's gone, therefore it no longer exists, but it was all a mental product to begin with.



Read an article once, where a preist stood trial for staging exorcisms.he took in millions....
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:39 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 04 November 2009 - 09:34 PM, said:

Posted Image sigh.here we go............yeaa GOD told me sigh

I said they are FAKED because......I (key word coming up watch out for it)...B E L I E V E them to be fake.........and no one can convince me they are NOT fake

Ohh and I didnt say god wouldnt allow demons exist...read the post right............I said I dont believe god would allow demons have that power......and guess what? I .................................


Whoa ok ok BM calm down lol I was just asking a question. See the thing is, you said:

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Demons dont exist...........god would not give powers for demons to possess anyone.......


That made it sound like as if you KNEW for sure what God would do. Let me rephrase my question:

If God would allow murder, rape, war and famine to exist, why is it so hard to believe that he would give demons the power to possess people?

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:43 PM

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Posted Image sigh.here we go............yeaa GOD told me sigh

I said they are FAKED because......I (key word coming up watch out for it)...B E L I E V E them to be fake.........and no one can convince me they are NOT fake

Ohh and I didnt say god wouldnt allow demons exist...read the post right............I said I dont believe god would allow demons have that power......and guess what? I .................................


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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:49 PM

View Postexeller, on 04 November 2009 - 09:39 PM, said:

If God would allow murder, rape, war and famine to exist, why is it so hard to believe that he would give demons the power to possess people?



People do NOT need a special power to murder or rape................demons need a power to possess others......never happens....<---my opinion and it sticks
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:50 PM

View Postrandomhit10, on 04 November 2009 - 09:43 PM, said:

hi...and how is my favorite Irish Belle today?....would you do me a favor please?...next time you talk to God would you put in a good word for me?....thanks a million...lol...you are a real sweetie...

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Hey Randomhit

Sweetie.I hope all is ok? PM me anytime
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:53 PM

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Hey Randomhit

Sweetie.I hope all is ok? PM me anytime


awww shucks....my cheeks are turnin red....

everything is ok...hope you and yours are too..

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 09:55 PM

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awww shucks....my cheeks are turnin red....

everything is ok...hope you and yours are too..

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Ohh ok then thats good news

then yes I will no problem
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:12 PM

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People do NOT need a special power to murder or rape................demons need a power to possess others......never happens....<---my opinion and it sticks


Once again I would ask you how you know this, but I already know that you say "It's just an opinion." So let's just assume that demons do exist and they need special power to possess people. You think that God would not give these demons that special power.

But then again that's like saying God would not allow evil men to become politicians because it would give them "special power" over the lives of common men. But last I checked Hitler existed.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:17 PM

Put me down for no possession also. Well, I believe "possession phenomena" happens, but what it is, I do not think is evil spirits or demons or any of that ilk. I believe it is psychological; heck, I don't even think it's witches doing it...

Which reminds me, Marabod, are you honestly putting forth those statements as genuine personal claims, that you know a witch who possesses people and turns into birds? Why in the world did she lend money to someone she had just possessed and not expect him to run off with it? And... I am not sure about this whole idea of a person being able to "make" another possessed...

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:32 PM

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Once again I would ask you how you know this, but I already know that you say "It's just an opinion." So let's just assume that demons do exist and they need special power to possess people. You think that God would not give these demons that special power.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:37 PM

well excuse me for asking a question.

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:40 PM

This case has been documented on History Channel, as well. http://www.associate...ist.html?cat=41
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Posted 04 November 2009 - 10:46 PM

View Postexeller, on 04 November 2009 - 10:37 PM, said:

well excuse me for asking a question.


I never answer questions that I see as silly..and I NEVER will assume demons exist....if you keep going on...don't sit with a surprized look on your face that wonder why LMAO

Ohh and one more thing...

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But then again that's like saying God would not allow evil men to become politicians because it would give them "special power" over the lives of common men. But last I checked Hitler existed.


When Obama and every other president before him.....they were given the power of office by MAN....not a god....and its not the same as a SUPERNATURAL POWER

Demons = Supernatural........ Man in oval office etc - NOT
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Put me down for no possession also. Well, I believe "possession phenomena" happens, but what it is, I do not think is evil spirits or demons or any of that ilk. I believe it is psychological; heck, I don't even think it's witches doing it...

Which reminds me, Marabod, are you honestly putting forth those statements as genuine personal claims, that you know a witch who possesses people and turns into birds? Why in the world did she lend money to someone she had just possessed and not expect him to run off with it? And... I am not sure about this whole idea of a person being able to "make" another possessed...


She is just a young woman. Not a hag and not a sorcerer. Can be gullible like anyone of us and can trust people. But the same time she has a certain deviation from norm, caused by childhood trauma, and this adds to the tribal environment in which she was growing, as among the Pacific islanders voodoo practices are seen as something normal. I had a fun of studying her psychology for few years, talked about this feature with her parents, as her "bewitching" habits were sometimes affecting the productivity of the plant where she worked and which I was managing. Her own mother is having some fears of her and thinks she can put a "black eye" on someone, specially on the children, or damage a person remotely if she becomes angry. She is a very emotional and impulsive girl, and actually quite charming despite not really beautiful. She behaves in a way that the males look at her like rabbits at a python, as being a control freak is part of her performance.

It is really long and hard to describe the lot, but otherwise as being a witch, she is a pretty bright girl - speaks few languages, reads a lot, paints weird abstract canvasses. She likes to have fun online too, she told me she goes to IRC on austnet and catches the males there, making them her toys. She is only 26 next May. But interestingly enough - she never uses her own name, and changes the nicknames very often. I later found this feature as existing among the wiccans (the legend says if the name of the witch is pronounced, then her magic disappears, maybe because of that?). It took a lot of my pressure and persuasion and about a year of time, before she indirectly admitted her being a witch; she did not use this word but said "a chosen one" and I saw she was in fact very pleased that I understood this, but we never returned to this issue since.

That above is of course how I myself saw the situation, so I do not insist on anything. I have no idea of how she does transformations, but in Metaphysics (remember there was a werewolves thread?) I once posted the report on Nigerian witches from Yoruba tribe, which describes similar if not the same practices - the witches either in their sleep or somehow else convert themselves in the birds or small mammals, and then can spy on someone with whom they have an emotional connection. <shrug>
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