[Smugfish]

There's a long thread about the many eye-witness accounts. Do you believe there is something genuine behind it all?

[psyche101]

I do not think a poll in a forum where people go to look for mysteries is going to offer a general outcome is it

No, the Yowie is indeed a construct. A Hominid of such dimensions cannot survive the climate.

Yesterday was the 5th here, it reached 38 Degrees C where I am. Summer is going to be hot. January is usually the hottest month. That would kill a hominid that weighs 800 pounds (death due to organ placement) and is covered in hair. I am not even Top End.

It makes as much sense as looking for an African Elephant in Antarctica.

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[evancj]

The claims of Yowie in Australia are even more ridiculous than the claims of bigfoot in North America.

[thylacoleo]

psyche101, on 06 November 2009 - 12:56 AM, said:

No, the Yowie is indeed a construct. A Hominid of such dimensions cannot survive the climate.

You sure because Homo erectus survived in temperatures that in some cases were 38 degree above today's and they actually thrived. Warmer Climates make you adapt it does not necessarily make you extinct. Also; Homo erectus came in more than one size, even pygmy sized. Australia's climate is varied as well. Some mountainous areas are so thick that when your under the thick canopies the temps can be quite normal. As the Great Divide stretches most of the east coast there is your habitat and it isn't always extreme. If Australia's temperatures are too hot for the Yowie then it was too hot for "Out Of Africa" too *grin*..How does the Orang u-tang Survive in the hot jungles of Sumatra? In fact they thrive and don't look too hot and bothered do they??

Humans have thrived in these extreme temps in Australia, it is the zero temps that are more a worry. What dimensions are you talking about also?? If the Yowie survived alongside the Aborigines in many cases in severe heat and then an ice-age-although Australia wasn't glaciated like Europe for instance, (judging by cave art, legends etc..) then why not the Yowie into modern times?

[DieChecker]

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Yesterday was the 5th here, it reached 38 Degrees C where I am. Summer is going to be hot. January is usually the hottest month. That would kill a hominid that weighs 800 pounds (death due to organ placement) and is covered in hair.quote]
Just curious... where does the 800 pounds come from? Based on height estimates, or.... from footprints?

[Smugfish]

thylacoleo, on 06 November 2009 - 05:47 AM, said:

You sure because Homo erectus survived in temperatures that in some cases were 38 degree above today's and they actually thrived. Warmer Climates make you adapt it does not necessarily make you extinct. Also; Homo erectus came in more than one size, even pygmy sized. Australia's climate is varied as well. Some mountainous areas are so thick that when your under the thick canopies the temps can be quite normal. As the Great Divide stretches most of the east coast there is your habitat and it isn't always extreme. If Australia's temperatures are too hot for the Yowie then it was too hot for "Out Of Africa" too *grin*..How does the Orang u-tang Survive in the hot jungles of Sumatra? In fact they thrive and don't look too hot and bothered do they??

Humans have thrived in these extreme temps in Australia, it is the zero temps that are more a worry. What dimensions are you talking about also?? If the Yowie survived alongside the Aborigines in many cases in severe heat and then an ice-age-although Australia wasn't glaciated like Europe for instance, (judging by cave art, legends etc..) then why not the Yowie into modern times?

I agree with this viewpoint entirely. The others probably haven't even read the famous and comprehensive study of clear vision cases (often from mountain homesteads incidentally). Why would hundreds of otherwise sincere people make this up? It only causes them social stigmization. They would have known that from the start surely?

[Mattshark]

Smugfish, on 06 November 2009 - 02:47 PM, said:

I agree with this viewpoint entirely. The others probably haven't even read the famous and comprehensive study of clear vision cases (often from mountain homesteads incidentally). Why would hundreds of otherwise sincere people make this up? It only causes them social stigmization. They would have known that from the start surely?

Its called confabulation.

[Smugfish]

Mattshark, on 06 November 2009 - 03:31 PM, said:

Its called confabulation.

But you haven't read the books or accounts, right?

[Mattshark]

Smugfish, on 07 November 2009 - 10:45 AM, said:

But you haven't read the books or accounts, right?

Accounts have no value. No witness is reliable in science, your talking about wildlife, so it is science. If you want meaningless stories, have all the witnesses you want, if you want it to be taken seriously witnesses are no use.

[JonathanVonErich]

i don't know...i need more evidences....

[GreatFenris]

I doubt it exists. Like most of it's kind it seems to rely upon witnesses for evidence and on mystical ninja powers to stay away from those hunting it.
Does anyone know if the Yowie sightings coincede with Robin Williams tours in Australia?

[JonathanVonErich]

Robin Williams sucks !

[Purplos]

Just curious. Is it something about hominids that make it unable to survive in the heat, or just a large, hairy animal in general. I'm certainly not using this as evidence of Yowie, but black bears, for example, can weigh 500 pounds and live in New Jersey, which can reach those temperatures as well.

[psyche101]

Purplos, on 08 November 2009 - 04:13 AM, said:

Just curious. Is it something about hominids that make it unable to survive in the heat, or just a large, hairy animal in general. I'm certainly not using this as evidence of Yowie, but black bears, for example, can weigh 500 pounds and live in New Jersey, which can reach those temperatures as well.

Placement of the organs in a Hominid. Heat dissipation is not rapid enough.

This National Geographic special seems common, it explains the situation well as they do a physical reconstruction of Meganthropus to prove the point.



It is a good watch if you get your hands on it. It also has a re-construction of Homo Florensis. Quite entertaining as well as educational.

The PNW "Patty" example of a Bigfoot manages to elude the problem somewhat by way of the Northern cool climate.

[psyche101]

Smugfish, on 07 November 2009 - 12:47 AM, said:

I agree with this viewpoint entirely. The others probably haven't even read the famous and comprehensive study of clear vision cases (often from mountain homesteads incidentally). Why would hundreds of otherwise sincere people make this up? It only causes them social stigmization. They would have known that from the start surely?

Are you speaking of a study of alleged Yowie sightings? I have seen no such thing. Please offer it for us all to see and discuss. Hundreds of clear vision cases? I'd like to see that list. Did Rex let a whole heap of you loose for the weekend? Why do people claim a thrown rock is a Yowie?