[psyche101]

Ra_Sun-God, on 19 November 2009 - 05:52 AM, said:

You don't know what ever if Yowie/Biff and Meganthropus are Bipedal or if of the same stature. Beside, that picture of black long-haired "Meganthrophus" you posted (National Geographic?) at the other thread looks much more different than Yowie/Bigfoot.

The Yowie looks much more different than the extinct Meganthropus!

http://books.google....page&q=&f=false The 800 pound Gorilla lives in the hot climate of Africa!
Bigfoot/Yowie looks different from Gorilla and Meganthropus, but when 800 pound Gorilla can survive the hot climate of Africa then an 800 pound Yowie can survive the hot climate of Australia!

You mentioned something about the caves of Australia on the other thread, and guess what, your COMMENT about Australian caves contradict the real description of the Australian caves! http://www.cegsa.org...ving_in_SA.html I will show some of the description:

Lower South East There are three main types of caves in this region. There are many cenotes (water-filled sinkholes) and dry sinkholes, ranging from sheer-sided to gently sloping depressions. Ramps are often cut down to the waters edge for stock use. Long water-filled joint plane caves with small roofhole entrances are common. Other caves consist of extensive rock collapse chambers, occasionally linked by a series of flatteners with mud, calcite or flowstone floors. There are tourist caves at Tantanoola and in and around Mount Gambier. There are now 501 recorded cave features in this region!

Nullarbor Plains The region embraces the geological reaches of the Eucla Basin rather than the more confined geographical flat treeless section. Thus it covers the lightly timbered coastal areas, including the Hampton Ranges and the Roe Plain in Western Australia. There are now 3500 features recorded on the Plain and many are added to the records at every visit. By far the longest cave is Old Homestead Cave which measures over 30km!, and there are many more spectacular but shorter caves.

Nice try, Psyche101

Gotcha

What is with the nice try and gotcha crap? Do you think idiotic retorts increase the validity of your rants?
My COMMENT as you rudely put it is personal experience.

A cave FEATURE is quite often only a few meters deep, as I said Aussie caves in general are. Extensive cave systems are rare here, as you can see on the page that you offered a link to, only 2 examples exceed 40 meters, and ion one case it is horizontal. What sort of cover is that? I live here, I gew up here, if there were prolific cave systems here I would have been in them I assure you. It is most kids dream to find such a place. Here you could easily walk for months or more without passing a cave at all. I do believe growing up here is a little more insightful than a nights Googling from the other side of the world. Jenolan Caves would be the largest system I have seen. As I said I have also explored Capricorn Caves as well. These two cave systems are about 1,200 Kilometers apart. Try wandering that between sunup and sundown.

Now for you link, did you notice this from it.

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The caves of South Australia (SA) are generally warm with temperatures around 18C, the humidity is around 80 to 95% and potable water is rare. Apart from having to carry significant quantities of water, caving in SA presents few problems to the experienced caver. The biggest obstacle to caving in SA is the travel time that is required to get to the different regions. The majority of caves are of the walk-in type, but there are significant exceptions where SRT (single rope technique) or ladders are needed. The caves are generally delicate and great care needs to be employed when traversing them.

Notice the bolded bits? They create you some real problems with this half-baked theory. One is water. This Yowie does not seem to frequent water holes as they are the most popular places in Australia. Have I mentioned the heat? We are currently in a heatwave as I type this. South Australia has a had a record 13 days in EXCESS of 40 Degrees Celsius. No water, humid, vertical entrances must be a pain and

did you read the bit about delicate structures? Stalactites and Stalagmites are very brittle and some caves have been closed to protect these delicate structures. Are you suggesting a Yowie gently squeezes through, and makes sure all the Yowie kids know not to play with the cave structures? How do such delicate structure manage to stay intact with 800 pound brutes bustling past regularly?

One can generally see the back wall of a Cave Feature. There is one near me, called Natural Arch, a very popular tourist spot, as all caves are. Bit hard to be covert in a tourist spot, but hey, you always try to argue the most ridiculous scenario. What a shame you seem to have gone back to your old style of posting.

Natural Arch.



Typical Cave Feature.



The Nullaboor plains reference is completely laughable. Take a guess as to why it is called a plains. Please do click the link and have a read on how arid the Nullaboor is.

Nullaboor Plains.




That link on the Gorilla is wrong. BTW, that book is not written BY Diane Fossey, did you notice that? The heaviest gorilla ever in captivity was N'gagi, who died at the San Diego Zoo in 1944. He was 5'7" and weighed 638 pounds. In the wild they rarely exceed 440 pounds. Animals in captivity generally grow larger. It generally pays to look at more than one reference you see. There is no such thing as a wild 800 pound Silverback. Kendall should have spoken with Fossey before making that outrageous assumption. Embarrassing when an internet nobody can show your now published book is carrying false information hey.

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Gorilla gorilla, native to the lowland and mountain forests of western and central equatorial Africa. It is the largest of the apes, the males reaching a height of 5 to 6 ft (150–190 cm) with a 9-ft (144–cm) arm spread. Males weigh about 450 lb (200 kg) in the wild; in zoos they become obese and may reach 600 lb (270 kg) or more.

Source - The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-07.

Yes the Indigenous version of the Yowie looks nothing like Megnathropous, it looks more like a giant Ant, nothing at all like a Hairy man. Although the Hairy man reports you are speaking of do share the same characteristics as Meganthropous. Same height, shape weight and therefore the same proposed lineage. If you feel there is a slight discrepancy in aesthetics, well, sucks to you. Such is superfluous and rather idiotic. Offer some specifics if you have a train of thought on the subject, other wise, annoy someone else with some far fetched theory that makes no sense, I am sure you have a bagful of those. In fact, you would do well to post in creative writing. And I do mean that in the nicest possible way

PS - Gracious, I have just found there is even a Wiki article on the current Australian Heat wave. - HERE - 2009 southeastern Australia heat wave

So far topped at 48.8 Degrees C. Not the best place to be 800 pounds and covered in hair. In fact, that combination is 100% sure death.

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[Smugfish]

Smugfish, on 19 November 2009 - 01:26 PM, said:

You're wrong. There was an old wasp nest over the rock art that was reliably dated to 17,000 years ago. The samba deer are unmistakeable. There's circumstancial evidence for a moon-sized near-miss around 40,000 B.P. incidentally.

You've completely ignored the scientific evidence from the Russian research team which I supplied. I bet you didn't even click on the link did you? Are these fabrications of footprints in your opinion then??? Scientific Evidence For Yeti Confirmed

Yowie encounters are often inquisitive in nature on the part of the Yowie. This fits with the theory of the Yowies evolving with the newly discovered continent from 40,000 B.P, along with the arrival of early humans. A new symbiosis is still in it's infancy imo.

[Smugfish]

Clobhair-cean, on 19 November 2009 - 01:36 PM, said:

No, there is no evidence whatsoever for a near-miss.

Here's a link which discusses the possibility Abrupt Climate Change At 40,000 B.P? and here's another Did Giant Comet Help Hobbits Reach Flores?.

Here's more cirumstantial evidence which points to northern hemisphere liquifaction due to a giant comet ultra-close near-miss 40,000 years ago Baby mammoth yields secrets after 40,000 years in Siberian tundra

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(From The Times October 5, 2009)
A baby woolly mammoth that died after being sucked into a muddy river bed 40,000 years ago

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[Clobhair-cean]

Smugfish, on 20 November 2009 - 03:13 PM, said:

Here's a link which discusses the possibility Abrupt Climate Change At 40,000 B.P? and here's another Did Giant Comet Help Hobbits Reach Flores?.

Did you even read those links? People are pretty much dismissive of the giant comet messing up the lithosphere theory. It is just not possible, you know.

Smugfish, on 20 November 2009 - 03:13 PM, said:

Here's more cirumstantial evidence which points to northern hemisphere liquifaction due to a giant comet ultra-close near-miss 40,000 years ago Baby mammoth yields secrets after 40,000 years in Siberian tundra

Why is a mammoth that strayed into a bog and drowned evidence for "liquidification"?

[Smugfish]

Clobhair-cean, on 20 November 2009 - 06:18 PM, said:

Why is a mammoth that strayed into a bog and drowned evidence for "liquidification"?

It's the high number of adults too Berezovka Mammoth. Mummified with the grass and buttercups they were just eating still in their mouths! Frozen fauna of the mammoth steppe: the story of Blue Babe By Russell Dale Guthrie

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[Clobhair-cean]

Smugfish, on 21 November 2009 - 10:36 AM, said:

It's the high number of adults too Berezovka Mammoth. Mummified with the grass and buttercups they were just eating still in their mouths! Frozen fauna of the mammoth steppe: the story of Blue Babe By Russell Dale Guthrie

What high number? There is only one such individual and that seems to have fallen into a freezing body of water and died there faster then it could digest all its food. No meteorite is needed for that on the tundra.

[Smugfish]

Clobhair-cean, on 21 November 2009 - 10:11 AM, said:

What high number? There is only one such individual and that seems to have fallen into a freezing body of water and died there faster then it could digest all its food. No meteorite is needed for that on the tundra.

There's plenty more cases. I need to collate the evidence.

There's more big comet events in our recent past than previously realised imo Diamonds suggest comets caused killer cold spell 13,000 years ago.

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