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Posted 05 November 2009 - 05:33 PM

So, on last nights Destination Truth they went to Bhutan in search of the Yeti. While there was a lot of the typical DT stumbling in the dark after snapping branches, they did find a very large hair sample, and when it was tested at the end of the show, it came back identified as primate, but of an unknown species. Now, let's be clear, it didn't come back 'inconclusive' meaning to degraded to tell, or anything like that, it came back unidentifiable.

Which, if the Yeti is real, is pretty much what we would expect, yes? It was positively identified as primate, and looked to have come from a large creature (it was a long and lanky sample), so, some of the best evidence to date, I think.

Not proof of existence, but more tantalizing than a dodgy footprint.

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 05:35 PM

That hair sample they found is terrific evidence. Did anyone else catch the show? A lot of the typical charging through the forests at night stuff, but the hair sample they found of an unknown primate is rather significant.

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 05:37 PM

I saw it. The thermal hit they caught across the river was clearly a bear, if you looked closely you could make out the whole forebody of a bear and the front legs. It was very clear. I image the only reason they chased it was for show.

The hair was quite intriguing, paired with the footprint they got last season, makes for some interesting discussion.

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 05:39 PM

Yeah, I don't think any of their Thermal work was of much use, other than to fill an hour, but the hair is significant. Not bear, not yak, but primate, and unidentified primate at that (when compared to the existing huge database).

That is hard to dismiss. Again, it's not solid proof of anything, but it is better than anything found so far!

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 06:16 PM

The size of the hair sample was one of those almost-too-good-to-be-true sort of things lol.
But the results were very interesting. Hopefully with more evidence it'll finally solidify the Yeti as a real animal (what the natives have been telling us for decades :unsure2: ).
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Posted 05 November 2009 - 07:45 PM

i was also surprised when they found that then the results were even better. i was thinkingtiger but they dont get that long of hair and bears dont eather so it had to be somthing else. they were chasing a bear most of the night. when they go to the thermal and its the full figure of the animal it looks exactly like a bear. but i guess the hair sample they got is just gonna get put in with all the footprints and what ever else has been found

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Posted 05 November 2009 - 07:51 PM

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I saw it. The thermal hit they caught across the river was clearly a bear, if you looked closely you could make out the whole forebody of a bear and the front legs. It was very clear. I image the only reason they chased it was for show.

The hair was quite intriguing, paired with the footprint they got last season, makes for some interesting discussion.

i saw it was a bear too...and i told that to my computer that i was watching it on lol. im sensing that they are gonna go back a third time till they catch it on camera. i love how jael asked if they had weapons, i laughed so hard lol

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:14 AM

Please offer the analysis. Hearing that an analysis was carried out on a TV show designed to attract ratings is not 100% convincing. ;)

Just so we are on a level playing field, primate does not mean Biff. Here are some primates for your viewing pleasure.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:18 AM

AYE want an AYE AYE

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:34 AM

View Postcatutie, on 06 November 2009 - 05:45 AM, said:

i was also surprised when they found that then the results were even better. i was thinkingtiger but they dont get that long of hair and bears dont eather so it had to be somthing else. they were chasing a bear most of the night. when they go to the thermal and its the full figure of the animal it looks exactly like a bear. but i guess the hair sample they got is just gonna get put in with all the footprints and what ever else has been found


Why would a Sasquatch hair be longer than a Bear Hair?


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Alleged hair samples I have seen look somthing liks this?

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Which turned out to one one of the few samples not deemed inconclusive! It would appear that this Sasquatch left behind a Bison hair :lol: But the witnesses saw a Biff leave it behind? Clever that biff..... :rofl:

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:36 AM

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 12:51 AM

View PostParticle Noun, on 05 November 2009 - 10:33 AM, said:

So, on last nights Destination Truth they went to Bhutan in search of the Yeti. While there was a lot of the typical DT stumbling in the dark after snapping branches, they did find a very large hair sample, and when it was tested at the end of the show, it came back identified as primate, but of an unknown species. Now, let's be clear, it didn't come back 'inconclusive' meaning to degraded to tell, or anything like that, it came back unidentifiable.

Which, if the Yeti is real, is pretty much what we would expect, yes? It was positively identified as primate, and looked to have come from a large creature (it was a long and lanky sample), so, some of the best evidence to date, I think.

Not proof of existence, but more tantalizing than a dodgy footprint.

Thoughts?


There are 6 to 7 species of primate currently living in Bhutan, some of which have long hair. Did destination truth mention that?

http://www.primate-s...primates.V2.pdf

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:26 AM

They did mention that there were other primates in Bhutan, at the beginning of the show.

The point is that, according to that document you linked, I would assume these to be cataloged primates. The sample provided yieled good DNA, but matched no known primate.

So it's possible that it was a primate that is uncataloged besides the Yeti, for sure!

It was a sample of hair that must have been about 6 inches long, there abouts, so it was a long tuft, stuck about chest level to a human, snagged on the side of a tree, so that would make sense for a passing yeti.

And watch the damn show if you want to see the analysis. They show the lab, the city, the person, and the results. It's on film, as is the collection of the sample.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:28 AM

That said, I'm sincerely hoping they release the analysis more broadly, and provide more of the hair up for sampling to other organizations. There was a good tuft, and I imagine further analysis could be done to verify it.

Also, when you watch the technician, it's clear she's uncomfortable with having to admit it was an excellent sample, but couldn't be identified. She clearly says that she's used to getting such samples, and quickly finding that they match more prosaic animals. She was shocked to get the result she got.

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Posted 06 November 2009 - 01:58 AM

View PostParticle Noun, on 05 November 2009 - 06:26 PM, said:

So it's possible that it was a primate that is uncataloged besides the Yeti, for sure!


I suppose there could be an unknown primate in Bhutan, but I bet it's not a 8 foot tall bipedal ape.

View PostParticle Noun, on 05 November 2009 - 06:26 PM, said:

And watch the damn show if you want to see the analysis. They show the lab, the city, the person, and the results. It's on film, as is the collection of the sample.


Jeez why so touchy? I didn't have time to watch it, is that alright with you?

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