[Ryinrea]

That was his time of service imo., I am not saying that how long it takes to become a major. MY friend, became a Major around his 3rd year in the service. ^^ It just depends on the outriding service they do in the army forces. For some it might take 17 years for others it might take them 5 years.

This post has been edited by Ryinrea: 08 November 2009 - 02:10 AM

[unit]

too soon to say. wouldn't this be the opinion of any rational unit?

i'm in Australia.. all our news reports were saying muslim, muslim, muslim.
ok so the guy was a muslim. why repeat it ad nauseaum?

when michael jackson died did they drone popstar, popstar, popstar?
no. we already knew it. it had no relevance. everyone dies.

seems like somebody wants us to put the two together.
MUSLIM + KILLER.

[Rock Slinger]

http://www.fox40.com...forthoodshooter,0,4799616.story?track=rss

There was the classroom presentation that justified suicide bombings. Comments to colleagues about a climate of persecution faced by Muslims in the military. Conversations with a mosque leader that became incoherent.

[snip]

Finnell said he did just that during a year of study in which Hasan made a presentation "that justified suicide bombing" and spewed "anti-American propaganda" as he argued the war on terror was "a war against Islam." Finnell said he and at least one other student complained about Hasan, surprised that someone with "this type of vile ideology" would be allowed to wear an officer's uniform.

But Finnell said no one filed a formal, written complaint about Hasan's comments out of fear of appearing discriminatory.

"In retrospect, I'm not surprised he did it," Finnell said. "I had real questions about what his priorities were, what his beliefs were."

[snip]

Both military and civilian investigators have yet to talk with Hasan, who reportedly jumped up on a desk and shouted "Allahu akbar!" - Arabic for "God is great!" - at the start of Thursday's attack.

Not posting this as being anything close to conclusive but it does say something about where his head may have been at.

[Rock Slinger]

US intelligence agencies learned an Army psychiatrist tried to contact Islamists with suspected al Qaeda links and told federal authorities, before the man allegedly went on a shooting spree in Texas last week.

Sources say intelligence agencies intercepted electronic communications between the suspect, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, and anti-American Islamists starting last year and reported the contacts to federal authorities, including the FBI
[snip]

The New York Times said intelligence agencies intercepted communications last year and this year between Hasan and a cleric in Yemen known for his incendiary anti-American teachings.

It is unclear what federal law enforcement authorities did with the intelligence information. One intelligence official said: "There's no sign at this point that the CIA had collected information relevant to this case and then simply sat on it."

The Justice Department, the FBI and the Army had no immediate comment about having received any intelligence information about Hasan before the shooting.

http://www.stuff.co....rt-Hood-shooter

And the details slowly get released...

[Rock Slinger]

Radical Muslim Cleric Anwar al-Awlaki declared the suspected Fort Hood mass murderer, Major Nidal Hassan, "a hero" in an article posted on the cleric's website Monday. The English language article also said Hassan was "a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people." Moreover, Awlaki appears to encourage other Muslims in the U.S. Military to commit murder as Hassan did. "In fact the only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the US army," Awlaki writes, "is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal."

Even more interesting is that Awlaki is not offering his perverse praise to a complete stranger. According to a New York Times article also posted on Monday, U.S. intelligence agencies were aware that Major Hassan had been in contact with Awlaki, an American born Muslim of Yemeni parents who has served as imam in at least two mosques in the United States and is a renowned radical jihadist.

http://open.salon.co...xchanged_emails


Now what is the most likely scenario?

[Malaria_Kidd]

This individual act can only get more prevelant on an all too often basis. The infamous Fort Dix six went on trial for trying to create death and destruction on that New Jersey army base. A red flag was raised right then! Right afterwards each man on any base should have been ready for another extremist to yell God is great and start shooting. At least carry a loaded sidearm on base when you are dressed for duty. I do think sidearms and ammo are only issued when combat is emminent. I wonder if MP's at base check points have ammo?

Now let's go back to 1942. In Morrocco Dad's Second Armored Division troops all carried loaded .45's when they went out and about. Before that & nearly nightly our men, a few at a time, were being abducted & then castrated in a dark alley in the bigger cities and towns. A girl may have gotten too close to one soldier. Or some pregnant girl would take the heat off her real boyfriend and point out a lone serviceman to blame him for her plight in the night. All were innocent men picked out in the night.

I heard that infidel shocker when I was in 50's grade school and truckin' long distance cattle and melons with my Dad. I often thought I should tell that on late night radio. Maybe I will!

This post has been edited by Malaria_Kidd: 14 November 2009 - 08:43 PM

[marabod]

Fluffybunny, on 07 November 2009 - 09:42 AM, said:

So because the psychiatrist was mentally ill, psychiatry cant work? What? Does that logic follow that if a doctor gets cancer, or diabetes, or has a heart attack that medicine has failed as well? Kind of silly don't you think?

No, I think it just falls back on an individual.

An individual that did not want to go overseas and was incredibly troubled by the idea of it. Who knows what was going on beforehand. Who knows what kind of issues he had? he was reportedly horrified by the words of the soldiers he had been helping(or trying to help), and wanted no part of going over. How much of that is religion or mental illness is yet to be seen. That is why I am waiting to find out what comes out of the investigation before I hop on the bandwagon of conspiracies; that thing has wobbly wheels.

You REALLY need to look up the definition of psychiatry. You are way off on that one. Actually Aquatus has done it for you. Having actually been in combat, and having a son who just got back from Iraq 2 months ago after a year in Baghdad, I can assure you, the people helping soldiers deal with the horrors they dealt with are very much necessary, and helpful. YOU seem to not have any experience of it, and dismiss it with a wave of hand, but for those of us who had need of it, it was helpful for a very difficult time in our lives.

Axtually it happened to me to come across the published opinion of a psychologist, who thought that to a certain degree becoming a psychiatrist or a psychologist by itself indicates some deviation from "norm", as these people experience interest to the ways, how sick people think and reason. A sort of a resonance, or a subconscious pro-active behaviour, a fear of the psychiatrists forces a person to become a psychiatrist... Meanwhile liaising 8 hours a day with mental patients also make a certain imprint on personal psychology of a doctor.

[Rock Slinger]

marabod, on 14 November 2009 - 06:21 PM, said:

Axtually it happened to me to come across the published opinion of a psychologist, who thought that to a certain degree becoming a psychiatrist or a psychologist by itself indicates some deviation from "norm", as these people experience interest to the ways, how sick people think and reason. A sort of a resonance, or a subconscious pro-active behaviour, a fear of the psychiatrists forces a person to become a psychiatrist... Meanwhile liaising 8 hours a day with mental patients also make a certain imprint on personal psychology of a doctor.

And when down and depressed a few chosen clicks and your getting a load of jihadist crap on your computer screen.