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Posted 07 November 2009 - 12:29 AM

So i have been researching about this "Chupacabra" and have found out some disturbing information. This animal sucks blood out of animals. Many of you most likley Know about this information. "Chupacabra" literaly meens goat sucker.

I have found 2 different versions of this animal one that look from out of this world, and one that looks like a wolf/dog breed. My opinion of the dog like creature is that A dog and wolf may have breed to form maybe a "superdog" with more strength than normal. This is very little footage of this animal but in the footage on "Monster Quest", It appeared not to be that startled by humans.

For the other unworldy "Chupacabra" this animal may be unknown to science. My theory is with the other ones, this animal is being pushed out of its habitats by growing populations. I strongly beleive that both versions of these animals are very real.

I have found that the sightings started in Puerto Rico and started to move all the way up to Texas. I am also strongly confused to how this animal could have such different physical appeerances. Maybe we are dealing with 2 different creatures.

I have no edivdence to back up my opinion but thats what Cryptozoologists are for. In the future years we may find this creature or even better capture and study it. Please give some feedback, news, reports, or opinions. Thanks!

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Posted 07 November 2009 - 01:49 AM

No, the dog is just that. It's a mangy coyote, nothing more, nothing less. DNA tests confirm this. It is not a "super creature". Nor does it suck blood. Carcasses found in the vicinity where this canine was caught are not drained of blood, they are actually still quite full and barely eaten, because it was caught in the process of the kill--it had no time to eat. However, a traditional chupacabra kill will be completely flat and stiff, with out a trace of blood anywhere near the scene.

They're two totally separate creatures. The Texas and Mexican chupacabra has been born simply because people are bored with their very simple, normal lives. Something has to be made spectacular, an ordinary mangy coyote has to be subjected to rigorous testing and any other number of very disrespectful procedures because people simply cannot live with the fact it is JUST a hungry coyote.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 02:10 AM

As Ebonykrow stated, it is just a coyote with mange. I can't wait to see the next version of the chupacabra. :rolleyes:
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 02:14 AM

View PostFell, on 06 November 2009 - 09:10 PM, said:

As Ebonykrow stated, it is just a coyote with mange. I can't wait to see the next version of the chupacabra. :rolleyes:


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Posted 07 November 2009 - 05:26 PM

if it quack like a duck it's a duck....something like that....
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 07:54 PM

View PostEbonykrow, on 07 November 2009 - 01:49 AM, said:

No, the dog is just that. It's a mangy coyote, nothing more, nothing less. DNA tests confirm this. It is not a "super creature".





I don't know about the blood sucking bit. But you are wrong about the DNA, DNA tests have show that it has K9, Coyote and wolf DNA which is abnormal.
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Posted 07 November 2009 - 11:51 PM

View PostCoffey, on 07 November 2009 - 02:54 PM, said:

I don't know about the blood sucking bit. But you are wrong about the DNA, DNA tests have show that it has K9, Coyote and wolf DNA which is abnormal.


I may be mistaken, but aren't coyotes and wolves considered canine?
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 12:41 AM

View PostEbonykrow, on 07 November 2009 - 11:51 PM, said:

I may be mistaken, but aren't coyotes and wolves considered canine?


By canine I assume he means dogs, though technically you are right in that coyotes and wolves are of the caninae sub family also.

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 12:51 AM

Once again I will post my link to Wikipedia on the subject of mange.

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I believe the southern state sucker to be a hybrid canine suffering from sarcoptic mange. Also known as canine scabies. This is the third chuppy thread I have contributed to relating to the subject and I will once again quote myself thusly.


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You know what really gets my goat? No what? El chupacabra.


I have also seen no evidence of goat biting anywhere. So in order to prove that something is a goat biter, or sucker there must be evidence provided that it indeed did bite goats. This may be a smewhat farcicle approach but people will call things whatever they want. Espescially in Texas. To a Texan chili has no beans and so anything called chili with beans is not chili. So then I think that if they wish to call the canine version a chupacabra they will do so. Though it differs from the classic goblin like version. So the things bear the same name. Culture dictates what things are named by continuing to refer to things in a specific way. So there is still a difference between the chuppy and the classic chupacabra.
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 01:01 AM

View PostDr.Sexy, on 07 November 2009 - 07:41 PM, said:

By canine I assume he means dogs, though technically you are right in that coyotes and wolves are of the caninae sub family also.


Understood, though I don't know why it wouldn't have been clearer to state "domestic dog".

At any rate, I have yet to understand what is still so special about this. Where I used to live there were plenty of coyote/domestic dog hybrids, because the coyotes were literally in our back yards, and no one ever spayed their dogs. Additionally, coyote/domestic dog hybrids are not at all uncommon. And to go further, coyote/wolf hybrids can also occur. Neither breeding is, imo, special, given it's a very natural thing for them to do. Coyotes breeding with red wolves is a large factor in why these wolves are now critically endangered in the Appalachia. It happens. In the same way that wolf/dog hybrids happen. It would be too easy to get a wild canine with a mixture of all three, especially if the female had bred with a domestic dog.

To simplify my feelings: A coyote/wolf/domestic dog hybrid that's killing chickens does not sound the least bit surprising to me. I also don't think that the reason for their hair loss is any surprising factor either, caused by faulty genes or what have you. There was a test done on one of the earlier samples, from a Texas online newspaper, that reported it was afflicted with mange. Just mange.

It makes me wonder why something like this:

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Doesn't get all kinds of useless attention, too.
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 09:17 PM

Ebonykrow do you know if it was sarcoptic mange? It is burrowing instead of follicular. I would assume they don't have much hair to work with in an extreme case. On a lighter note maybe we should change it to el chupapollo, the "chicken biter".
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Posted 08 November 2009 - 09:52 PM

Can't remember, but sarcoptic mange kind of sounds familiar. I just know that it was some form of it.
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Posted 09 November 2009 - 04:46 PM

http://www.peteducat...=2+1589&aid=764
that explains some on it.
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Posted 09 November 2009 - 07:36 PM

View PostAgent. Mulder, on 09 November 2009 - 10:46 AM, said:

http://www.peteducat...=2+1589&aid=764
that explains some on it.


Excellent citation. It has about three times as much on the sarcoptic mange than that wiki source I've been citing.
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Posted 10 November 2009 - 01:53 AM

The first picture is cute.

Aww.
I would wrap it up and turn it into a mummy.
Then put it in a little coffin and scare kids during Halloween.
Hm.
Maybe all year round.

As for the chupacabra being real...
I really don't think so...
But it could be a possibility.
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