[tinieblas]

I promised this one a few days ago but I've been busy, sorry!

I have a strange ability which no-one else seems to mention; I've searched the web and various books and found no mention of it. Let me begin;

I don't see the dark as an absense of light or emptiness rather a fluid thing which moves and flows, as does liquid but it is not quite liquid...it's impossible to explain unless you have experienced it! If you imagine a liquid or gas trapped between clear plastic, within that medium it moves and flows and forms patterns....but that plasma or liquid is full of every changing colours, like the colours on a soap bubble; it moves and flows, forms patterns and moves apart again. I find the night and half dark of cities amazingly beautiful in ways the daylight cannot be.....if anyone would like to ask; I'll try to explain it better!

But my shadow-sight as I call it....when it's dark and there are no light sources nearby, I can stare into the dark and 'grey' my sight out, it's like a sideways eyelid either opens or closes across my eye and all details fade out and I can see the background texture I described more clearly and seemingly solid....I am currenly practising because I can maintain this manner of seeing for no longer than a couple of seconds before I either shock myself or my eyes decide to move and I lose the focus. I first noticed this ability when I was sitting in my bedroom at night with the lights out next to a full length mirror, just thinking when I looked to my reflection for some reason (I can't remember why now), unfocussed my eyes and watched my reflection fade out of view; instead seeing one of the shadow people standing behind where my reflection had been, watching me quite intently, as far as I could gather (it had no eyes so I'm only guessing); then, as normal, my vision flicked back to normal.

Has anyone else had this kind of vision before or has this rambling thing here made any sense to anyone? I'll keep you posted as I am trying to practise this ability some more to be able to maintain focus for longer...par of me is sure it's seeing with the eyes of spirit. I have been outside my body once and what i saw then was like I see for brief flashes with my shadow sight.....

[AiiNZ]

Sounds Interesting, but not something I've ever heard of before.

[Insight]

This condition is called "pretendenitis". It commonly affects young people who watch too many cartoons.

[tinieblas]

Insight, on 07 November 2009 - 08:48 PM, said:

This condition is called "pretendenitis". It commonly affects young people who watch too many cartoons.

har har.....are you saying I'm some young guy who lives in his mom's basement and never goes out? In today's parlance, I believe the fitting term is "epic fail" I'm 34, I'm married, I'm well adjusted and have not lived in anyone's basement, ever.....it's been around 18 years since I lived at home. i have a job, I go out daily. If you're going to make a negative comment, at least make the effort to make it constructive eh?

I think your condition is called ironophobia?

[ChloeB]

tinieblas, on 06 November 2009 - 08:47 PM, said:

But my shadow-sight as I call it....when it's dark and there are no light sources nearby, I can stare into the dark and 'grey' my sight out, it's like a sideways eyelid either opens or closes across my eye and all details fade out and I can see the background texture I described more clearly and seemingly solid....

Hmmm, interesting. Just reading that part above in bold, reminded me of the third eyelid cats have who also have excellent night vision. I'm not sure what to make of that, but there it is, lol. Have you seen an ophthalmologist just to check that out?

[tinieblas]

ChloeB, on 07 November 2009 - 11:46 PM, said:

Hmmm, interesting. Just reading that part above in bold, reminded me of the third eyelid cats have who also have excellent night vision. I'm not sure what to make of that, but there it is, lol. Have you seen an ophthalmologist just to check that out?

oh god yeah! You see I'm short sighted (only 20/18) and had a lazy eye as a child so i had all the eye tests one can imagine (the colour blindness ones and the lot) and apart from a slight myopia I'm fine....

That's what i mean it's like my eyes are 'opening' again even though they are already open! I have read about using the 'eyes of spirit' and I was wondering if that is what this is.....not a nictating membrane as such as it is not physical....

[ChloeB]

tinieblas, on 07 November 2009 - 10:53 PM, said:

oh god yeah! You see I'm short sighted (only 20/18) and had a lazy eye as a child so i had all the eye tests one can imagine (the colour blindness ones and the lot) and apart from a slight myopia I'm fine....

That's what i mean it's like my eyes are 'opening' again even though they are already open! I have read about using the 'eyes of spirit' and I was wondering if that is what this is.....not a nictating membrane as such as it is not physical....

Aah, well, I should have guessed you would have. I didn't understand you weren't saying something physical.

[tinieblas]

ChloeB, on 08 November 2009 - 12:06 AM, said:

Aah, well, I should have guessed you would have. I didn't understand you weren't saying something physical.

ohhhhhh sorry, that was perhaps my fault for not explaining it clearly enough. It's not physical no, I wish it was! That'd make it so easy to prove and I'd like to be able to do that!!

[Mattshark]

No offence, but it almost certainly (99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%) in your head and psychological.

[tinieblas]

Mattshark, on 08 November 2009 - 07:24 AM, said:

No offence, but it almost certainly (99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%) in your head and psychological.

None taken mate, as long as there is some manuever for doubt I'm cool.

[G3N0M3]

LOL at Mattshark again... I love your unending knowledge of psychological phenomina... wait, you did not even give it a term, or why you don't think that this could be possible...

As for my own experiences I can "grey-out" anything, at any-time all I have to do is focus on an object and blank out everything around it. This is the only time that I could ALMOST see someones aura, but only get VERY faded colors, which is almost pointless.

As for the "shadow people" I've never done this in the mirror outside of a one-time try at OBE infront of a mirror which I did and figured it was kinda cool, but I rather astral projection because you could move. The way I did it in a mirror might have been psychological, though I've never physicaly seen my back, I have seen it in astral projection so that might have gave my brain an image to go off of.

Heres a quick search into a couple of the things you mentioned:

http://en.wikipedia....i/Shadow_People - More of ghosts and the sightings of them.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Sense#Sight - Shows how most people only "read" electromegnetics and photons to veiw something.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Sense#Vision - Talks about cats and snakes and how they can control their sight including ultra violet and infered light.

http://en.wikipedia....ptic_phenomenon - Which may be what your experiencing, but its up to you to decide after reading

http://en.wikipedia....inger%27s_brush - Where the entoptic phenomina originated from, and also a basic for of why I recieved headaches at young ages from lights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichroism - Looks to be what you are detailing when you are seeing different colors like a soap bubble. This might have also contributed to the migrains where sight is still developing and perhaps (out of iregularity/evolution) being able to see more than electromegnetic waves and photons of light.

http://en.wikipedia....cular_dichroism - Explains how all of that is intertwined and related with atoms and even DNA


Well that should be enough reading for everyone, it will no doubt intregue you to read up on, I know it helped me understand quite a bit.

[maximaldecimal]

I have noticed my dog has an extra lid from the tearduct. she sometimes almost shuts it to the upper lid without closing her bottom lid, kinda like a shark. I use something like the sideways eye blinking thing to stifle tears from time to time. I can feel it but I think it could well be a function of me crossing my eye or running the iris across the lid. I have actually had pain in my eye a few times in various fashions I won't go into here. I found this odd because I have heard that there are no nerve endings in the eye. Odd, I think perhapse it could be an allergy issue. I remember allergies used to hit me in th corner of my eye, but recently it is as if I ca feel the allergen on my eye from time to time. Most likely I think I may be feeling the lid.
Back on topic I think seeing things in the dark can best be explained by the subconcious perception. The shadow sight could be seen as spiritual but that depens on the opinion of the observer. I have as a schitzophrenic seen many things in the shadows at night. Not one of them was copporeal and I believe most of the audio was internal.
I found that after a while I could control certain aspects of what I saw. I do not think it healthy to think all the voices were mine but I have utelized visions as avatars for lucid dreaming as well as mastered using my inner voice aon occasion. Odd thing is that the voices are very hard to control sometimes. Sometimes the sound seems to come from within sometimes from without. Though to the phsychologist it is all from within the subject, or in otherwords its all in my head. So when you precieve things in shadow sight your in effect looking in to imagination land.

[tinieblas]

therein, as the saying goes, lies the rub, Max. I can't prove that it is not as you describe except for events which other people have experienced in common with me, which is not often...most of what I experience is mine alone and has no availability for corroboration or proof, except for my own conviction and belief in them. I could be imagining them, making them up or crazy but I do not think that is the case personally. Unfortunately I cannot transfer this belief and conviction to other people so you are welcome and entitled to your doubt.

I appreciate your point of view but am sure that my experiences are real myself

[tinieblas]

G3N0M3, on 09 November 2009 - 05:41 PM, said:

LOL at Mattshark again... I love your unending knowledge of psychological phenomina... wait, you did not even give it a term, or why you don't think that this could be possible...

As for my own experiences I can "grey-out" anything, at any-time all I have to do is focus on an object and blank out everything around it. This is the only time that I could ALMOST see someones aura, but only get VERY faded colors, which is almost pointless.

As for the "shadow people" I've never done this in the mirror outside of a one-time try at OBE infront of a mirror which I did and figured it was kinda cool, but I rather astral projection because you could move. The way I did it in a mirror might have been psychological, though I've never physicaly seen my back, I have seen it in astral projection so that might have gave my brain an image to go off of.

Heres a quick search into a couple of the things you mentioned:

http://en.wikipedia....i/Shadow_People - More of ghosts and the sightings of them.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Sense#Sight - Shows how most people only "read" electromegnetics and photons to veiw something.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Sense#Vision - Talks about cats and snakes and how they can control their sight including ultra violet and infered light.

http://en.wikipedia....ptic_phenomenon - Which may be what your experiencing, but its up to you to decide after reading

http://en.wikipedia....inger%27s_brush - Where the entoptic phenomina originated from, and also a basic for of why I recieved headaches at young ages from lights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichroism - Looks to be what you are detailing when you are seeing different colors like a soap bubble. This might have also contributed to the migrains where sight is still developing and perhaps (out of iregularity/evolution) being able to see more than electromegnetic waves and photons of light.

http://en.wikipedia....cular_dichroism - Explains how all of that is intertwined and related with atoms and even DNA


Well that should be enough reading for everyone, it will no doubt intregue you to read up on, I know it helped me understand quite a bit.

Yet again G, thank you for the information; I spent several minutes reading it with interest....there is some concordance with what I experience but not quite.......some of it is indeed what I see but I'm not entirely sure.......maybe it is some ocular....I hesitate to use the word...adapatation, posibly linked to spirit sight.....my personal instinct is that the boundary is thinning due to our human predeliction to destroy but not replace, thus depleting the "magic" of the land and wearing down the division between our reality and nearby realities.....maybe I'm seeing some of that effect?

Or differently working eyes....your guess is as good as mine

[Appollyon]

tinieblas, on 06 November 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:

I promised this one a few days ago but I've been busy, sorry!

I have a strange ability which no-one else seems to mention; I've searched the web and various books and found no mention of it. Let me begin;

I don't see the dark as an absense of light or emptiness rather a fluid thing which moves and flows, as does liquid but it is not quite liquid...it's impossible to explain unless you have experienced it! If you imagine a liquid or gas trapped between clear plastic, within that medium it moves and flows and forms patterns....but that plasma or liquid is full of every changing colours, like the colours on a soap bubble; it moves and flows, forms patterns and moves apart again. I find the night and half dark of cities amazingly beautiful in ways the daylight cannot be.....if anyone would like to ask; I'll try to explain it better!

But my shadow-sight as I call it....when it's dark and there are no light sources nearby, I can stare into the dark and 'grey' my sight out, it's like a sideways eyelid either opens or closes across my eye and all details fade out and I can see the background texture I described more clearly and seemingly solid....I am currenly practising because I can maintain this manner of seeing for no longer than a couple of seconds before I either shock myself or my eyes decide to move and I lose the focus. I first noticed this ability when I was sitting in my bedroom at night with the lights out next to a full length mirror, just thinking when I looked to my reflection for some reason (I can't remember why now), unfocussed my eyes and watched my reflection fade out of view; instead seeing one of the shadow people standing behind where my reflection had been, watching me quite intently, as far as I could gather (it had no eyes so I'm only guessing); then, as normal, my vision flicked back to normal.

Has anyone else had this kind of vision before or has this rambling thing here made any sense to anyone? I'll keep you posted as I am trying to practise this ability some more to be able to maintain focus for longer...par of me is sure it's seeing with the eyes of spirit. I have been outside my body once and what i saw then was like I see for brief flashes with my shadow sight.....

Hey there,

I have experienced this since Ive been a child, and in Carlos Castaneda's book "A Seperate Reality", Don Juan, (carlos's spiritual teacher), talks about the difference between looking at the world and SEEING the world. As I have come to understand it, this strange sight we have both been experiencing is a step towards seeing. Try to not focus on one thing, but rather pull in everything at once. See everthing while seeing nothing and your hearing and sight will become like one sense. Don Juan said that seeing is knowing. If you can learn how to see on a regular basis, or in your dreams, you will know more about the people and world around you. Clear your mind and give it another shot!