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may 21,2011 judgment day?

Started by Hot_Mama , Nov 09 2009 01:24 PM

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#31 Mattshark

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 11:25 AM

innerverse, on 12 November 2009 - 05:11 PM, said:

Science is an accurate model of reality, it isn't "real" though...these are 2 different things.
For example, when we say that the model of multi-dimensions fits with our current cosmologic model, id doesn't mean
that the universe is multidimensional, it means that in our current model the introduction of dimensions solves problems and applies to our current evidence and data. Science is a code, not reality.

No science is a method of study and it is real and produces real results. Observe - Hypothesise - Experiment. It is not reality ,however, but that is a different matter altogether.

Edited by Mattshark, 13 November 2009 - 11:28 AM.

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#32 innerverse

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:56 PM

Mattshark, on 13 November 2009 - 11:25 AM, said:

No science is a method of study and it is real and produces real results. Observe - Hypothesise - Experiment. It is not reality ,however, but that is a different matter altogether.

That's what i'm saying. A model of reality.

Stephen Hawking wrote in "The universe in a nutshell":
...Every valid scientific theory, whether it refers to "time" or any other term, should, in my opinion, be based in the most accurate philosophy of science: Logical Positivism, which was introduced by Karl Popper and others. According to this way of thinking, a scientific theory consists of a mathematical model that describes and decodes the observations that we make. A "good" theory will be able to describe a vast array of of phenomena with the use of a few simple proposals and also verify that it's predictions can be measured. If the predictions are confirmed by the observational data, then the theory passes the stage of hypothesis, although it can never be prooved to be completely accurate. On the other hand, whereas the theory fails to predict the observational data, then the theory should be disqualified or altered. (At least that's what is supposed to happen. In reality, the accuracy of observations is usually debated as well as the credibility of those who propose it.) If someone follows Logical Positivism, as i do, then he cannot say what Time really is. He can only describe that which consists a very good mathematical model of time and pinpoint the predictions of this specific model.

Edited by innerverse, 13 November 2009 - 01:59 PM.

Gradually, we are told, step by step, men produced the arts and crafts, this and that, until they emerged into the light of history. Those soporific words "gradually" and "step by step" repeated incessantly, are aimed at covering an ignorance which is both vast and surprising.
-Ugo de Santillana and Ertha Von Dechend, Hamlet's Mill, 1983

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#33 Corp

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 04:58 PM

innerverse, on 12 November 2009 - 08:07 PM, said:

You're refering to my post?

No. Why have you broken desks lately?

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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#34 innerverse

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 05:21 PM

Corp, on 13 November 2009 - 04:58 PM, said:

No. Why have you broken desks lately?

None that i can think of.

Gradually, we are told, step by step, men produced the arts and crafts, this and that, until they emerged into the light of history. Those soporific words "gradually" and "step by step" repeated incessantly, are aimed at covering an ignorance which is both vast and surprising.
-Ugo de Santillana and Ertha Von Dechend, Hamlet's Mill, 1983

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#35 innerverse

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 05:25 PM

double post

Edited by innerverse, 13 November 2009 - 05:26 PM.

Gradually, we are told, step by step, men produced the arts and crafts, this and that, until they emerged into the light of history. Those soporific words "gradually" and "step by step" repeated incessantly, are aimed at covering an ignorance which is both vast and surprising.
-Ugo de Santillana and Ertha Von Dechend, Hamlet's Mill, 1983

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#36 brlesq1

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 08:01 AM

2011, 2012...wow. What's with all the doomsday predictions lately? People have nothing better to do?

Forget what they told you. You want the truth, follow the money.
Now whip it...whip it good!

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#37 Dementis Inferi

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:27 AM

this... this is getting a little out of hand now. shouldn't people NOT be wanting the end of the world.........
Why do people constantly poke at it? if anybody here follows a religion (particularly christians), then you should know your god likes to take the mick out of his followers, keep poking and your god WILL smite you all. This 2012 business and 'doomsday' will never cease to infuriate me.