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The Pole Shift - December 2012 or Oct 2013?


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#1    Eulalio

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 04:05 AM

According to the movie 2012, and supposedly the Mayan calendar, December 12, 2012 will be the day Earth's pole (or axis of rotation) will shift, causing unimaginable natural disasters and calamities all over the world.

But December will not be the month when this apocalyptic doomsday event will take place, at least not according to Nostradamus. According to one of his epistles, October is the month we all should watch for:

Epistle to Henry II:

" and there shall be in the month of October some great movement and transference and it will be such that one will think that the Earth has lost its natural movement, and that it will be plunged into the abyss of perpetual darkness"


The Bible seems to agree with Nostradamus on this.

"A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.  His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth." (Revelation 12: 1-4)

In the Bible, "signs appearing in heaven" refer to rare astronomical events. And since this prophecy was given to us in the form of a heavenly sign, we can actually determine the date of its fulfillment by simply using astronomy.

In astronomy, the “Dragon” is symbolized by the constellation Draco, and the “Woman” is symbolized by the constellation Virgo.

The mention of the sun clothing the “Woman” with the moon under her feet implies that this prophecy will be fulfilled during a new moon occurring at the constellation Virgo. If you will recall, a new moon occurs whenever the sun and the moon both appear at the same location of the sky.

The imagery of stars being swept out of the sky and being flung to the earth is representative of meteor showers. The mention of the dragon’s tail doing the sweeping also means that the radiant of this meteor shower should be seen at the tail of the constellation Draco. The radiant of a meteor shower is that point in the sky where the meteors appear to enter the earth’s atmosphere.

There was a time when the constellation Draco was associated with only one radiant corresponding to the meteor shower named the Draconids; and this meteor shower occurs on October 9 of every year. However, the radiant of this meteor shower is located in what is traditionally referred to as the “head” of the constellation Draco and not its “tail” as the prophecy in the book of Revelation specifically stated.

However, an unexpected burst of meteors occurred on October 5, 2005 which betrayed the presence of a potentially Earth-threatening comet. This burst of meteors radiated from a direction on the border of the constellation Draco, located at its “tail end”, and exactly as prophesied by Revelation 12; and this new meteor shower is now known as the Camelopardalids.

http://articles.adsa...000125.000.html

These meteors were caused by dust ejected by a yet unidentified comet during its most recent return to the Sun, which was determined to be a little more than 3,500 years ago, or about the time of the Exodus. Furthermore the detection of the comet's dust trail implies that the comet itself could wander into Earth's path if so directed by the gravitational pull of the planets.

For the prophecy of Revelation 12:1-4 to be fulfilled, the following astronomical events must take place all at the same time:

1. A new moon must occur at the constellation Virgo

2. A meteor storm should take place with its  radiant located at the tail of the constellation Draco

Since the Camelopardalids meteor shower occur on October 5 of every year, the only question that must be answered now is when will the next new moon occur that will fall exactly on this date?

The answer is October 5, 2013.

http://lunaf.com/eng...dar-2013/10/05/

On this date, the Sun will be located at the constellation Virgo, "clothing" it entirely, while the new moon will be located at the border of Virgo and Libra, which is just under the "feet" of the "Woman".

Many cataclysmic events will take place on this day, one of which is the return of the Earth threatening comet whose debris is the source of the Camelopardalids meteor shower. This comet is called by many names, and is written about in many legends of old.

This comet is none other than Nibiru or Planet X, the home of Sumerian, and Babylonian deities also known as the Annunaki.
http://shugborough.i...page=1&secid=-1

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 07:00 AM

Nice analysis.

What does a comet have to do with a pole shift?


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Posted 24 November 2009 - 08:21 AM

Ok, is the 2012 theory faltering already? We have to find different dates now? Not even taking into account that Nibiru or Planet X are proven not to exist.....

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 07:11 PM

you seem to have done alot of research, but in the wrong place...

a pole shift takes thousands of years to occur and we are only just starting to go into a pole shift now. so if anything is going in 2012 i highly doubt it will be a pole shift.


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Posted 24 November 2009 - 10:31 PM

View Postsepulchrave, on 24 November 2009 - 07:00 AM, said:

Nice analysis.

What does a comet have to do with a pole shift?
The potentially Earth threatening comet which is approaching has a very strong magnetic field. This will repel Earth's magnetic field causing its axis of rotation to shift.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 10:37 PM

View Postcharlote, on 24 November 2009 - 07:11 PM, said:

you seem to have done alot of research, but in the wrong place...

a pole shift takes thousands of years to occur and we are only just starting to go into a pole shift now. so if anything is going in 2012 i highly doubt it will be a pole shift.

There are two causes for magnetic pole shifts to occur, one is internal, the other is external.

Internal causes which take place inside Earth's inner core take thousands of years to occur as our planet is already relatively stable.

However, the cause of Earth's pole shift which will occur on October 5, 2013 will be external. This is similar to having two bar magnets which naturally repel or attract each other. Nibiru's strong magnetic field will cause an immediate shift on Earth's axis of rotation!

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 10:50 PM

View PostTheSearcher, on 24 November 2009 - 08:21 AM, said:

Ok, is the 2012 theory faltering already? We have to find different dates now? Not even taking into account that Nibiru or Planet X are proven not to exist.....

How can you prove the non-existence of anything?

It is true, Nibiru's position hasn't been discovered yet, BUT, there are so many strong evidences available that suggest that there is a perturbing object or body that regularly visits our solar system that causes havoc on our neighbouring planets and even our own.

Some of these cataclysmic events can even be shown to be relatively recent, which suggests that a recurrence of such events can take place anytime soon.

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 11:55 PM

I'm sorry, pole shifts take thousands of years


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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:10 AM

View PostEulalio, on 24 November 2009 - 10:50 PM, said:

How can you prove the non-existence of anything?

It is true, Nibiru's position hasn't been discovered yet, BUT, there are so many strong evidences available that suggest that there is a perturbing object or body that regularly visits our solar system that causes havoc on our neighbouring planets and even our own.

Some of these cataclysmic events can even be shown to be relatively recent, which suggests that a recurrence of such events can take place anytime soon.

no there isnt.
theres no proof of nibiru or planet x at all.

the truth is out there....

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:50 AM

View PostEulalio, on 24 November 2009 - 10:31 PM, said:

The potentially Earth threatening comet which is approaching has a very strong magnetic field. This will repel Earth's magnetic field causing its axis of rotation to shift.

This comet has a strong magnetic field now?

What direction? If the field is parallel to Earth's it won't cause a pole-shift.

Why will changing the Earth's magnetic field orientation cause a change in the axis of rotation?

I trust you also realize that the very scientists who reported the discovery of the potentially Earth-threatening comet suggest that the next large meteor shows from this comet's tail will occur in 2018 and 2038.


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Posted 25 November 2009 - 04:25 AM

View PostEulalio, on 24 November 2009 - 10:50 PM, said:

How can you prove the non-existence of anything?

Logic :)
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It is true, Nibiru's position hasn't been discovered yet, BUT, there are so many strong evidences available that suggest that there is a perturbing object or body that regularly visits our solar system that causes havoc on our neighbouring planets and even our own.

If a body of a size capable of affecting the earths possition or orientation was within the vincinity (in this case a mere 2 or 3 years away) it would have shown its effects already ,drasticly not to mention it would have been visible with the naked eye already let alone amateur astronomers with scopes.

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Some of these cataclysmic events can even be shown to be relatively recent, which suggests that a recurrence of such events can take place anytime soon.

Those recent events like the tsunami and big quakes etc. have been occuring for longer then man has excisted and frequently ,i wouldn't bet on that being of much use in theories like these.

Edited by Rafe, 25 November 2009 - 04:27 AM.


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Posted 25 November 2009 - 07:00 AM

View PostEulalio, on 24 November 2009 - 10:50 PM, said:

How can you prove the non-existence of anything?

It is true, Nibiru's position hasn't been discovered yet, BUT, there are so many strong evidences available that suggest that there is a perturbing object or body that regularly visits our solar system that causes havoc on our neighbouring planets and even our own.

Some of these cataclysmic events can even be shown to be relatively recent, which suggests that a recurrence of such events can take place anytime soon.

How can I prove anything? Well for starters I consult with the people whose job it is to chart and follow all heavenly bodies that could represent a thread to our planet, like the Nasa Asteroid watch team. Or you check on this Near Earth Objects page

Next, there is no credible evidence - telescopic or otherwise - for this object’s existence. There is also no evidence of any kind for its gravitational effects upon bodies in our solar system. If there was such a thing as Nibiru, that would pass earth closely as you claim, in 2012 or 2013, then evidence would be present now.

So yes, I can prove the non-existence of something.

If you have proof of any of it, I would like to see it.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 03:38 AM

lol!!

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...According to the movie 2012...

This is where I stopped... Ive just been to see that film and although it was fun to see cool explosions and destruction, nothing of that movie can ever be proven scientific fact...
But then again, neither can ANYTHING about your so called judgement day.  Just because the mayans calender ends at that date, it doesnt mean the world ends.  By that logic, The world would have ended December 31st 2008... and every year before that on the exact same date.  
They kept that calender going for thousands and thousands of years.  It needed to stop at some point.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 05:03 PM

Please see my new post on this subject  :rolleyes:
http://www.unexplain...howtopic=169774

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 05:51 PM

as with my post on that topic,
http://shugborough.info/
dunno if i buy this site.
especially since no names of the 'scientists' are mentioned, anywhere.

the truth is out there....




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