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#1    Fluffybunny

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 09:55 AM

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - One of the prewar forecasts was that by invading Iraq (news - web sites), the world would profit from stable exports of Iraq's oil. And that would translate into cheap gas for American drivers. Now, with U.S. gasoline averaging $2.05 per gallon about 50 cents more than the pre-invasion price that logic has been flipped on its head.

Instead, Iraqis seem to be the only people getting cheap gas as a result of the invasion. They pay just five cents for a gallon thanks to hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. taxpayer subsidies.

Since Iraq has little capacity to refine its own gasoline, the U.S. government pays about $1.50 a gallon to purchase fuel in neighboring countries and deliver it to Iraqi filling stations. A three-month supply costs American taxpayers more than $500 million, not including the cost of military escorts.

The arrangement keeps a fleet of 4,200 tank trucks constantly on the move, ferrying fuel to Iraq.

Baghdad taxi driver Osama Hashim says he owes his livelihood to the U.S. taxpayer.

"We thank the Americans. They risked their lives to liberate us and now they are improving our lives," said Hashim, 26, topping up the tank on his beat-up 1983 Volkswagen.

Filling a 22-gallon tank in Baghdad with low-grade fuel costs just $1.10, plus a 50-cent tip for the attendant. A tankful of high-test costs $2.75.

In Britain, by contrast, gasoline prices hit $5.79 per gallon last week $127 for a tankful.

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Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 10:01 AM

Am I the only one who read the topic and automaticaly thought "Cheap gas? is it Sarin!?"

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 01:16 PM

Am I the only one who read the post and thought,  "So What!"?

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 01:27 PM

Joc, I think you fail to realize the amount of buisnesses that are going down the tubes because of inflated fuel prices.

Oil is the world gold and it is crippling small buisness and individuals.
We in Britian are paying the second highest prices for fuel in the whole of Europe next to the Dutch.

America on the other hand are paying a fraction of what the rest of the world is paying.

YOU may not care at the moment, but when your paying more taxes to pay the poor guy who has lost his job.....then maybe you'le care. whistling2.gif  

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 01:39 PM

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Oil is the world gold and it is crippling small buisness and individuals.


Oil is the fuel of freedom and without it the only businesses would be blacksmiths and livery stables tongue.gif

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We in Britian are paying the second highest prices for fuel in the whole of Europe next to the Dutch.

America on the other hand are paying a fraction of what the rest of the world is paying.


It is not our fault ya'll chose to be Socialists.  Our gas would be far cheaper if it weren't for the taxes on it.   But that is beside the point.  We are in a position to help the Iraqis and they need our help.  I don't care that their gas is so cheap...I don't care that we are paying for a lot of it.  I don't care if you are paying almost $6.00 a gallon....The fact is that in this country we are experiencing the greatest economic growth in decades.  Oil isn't crippling anything or anybody.  Fear is the great mind killer....not oil.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 02:38 PM

*Starts laughing at the Americans complaining about the amount of tax on THEIR petrol*

If you where over here you'd have reason to complain!

Example...... Unleaded super.... Total price 84.9 per litre
Of that the retailer gets ..... 4.2p
The refinery gets ..... 17.2p
Standard tax (VAT) ..... 12.64p
Fuel duty ..... 50.89p

Thats a base cost of 21.4p and taxation of 63.53p..... close to 300% tax!

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 02:45 PM

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Thats a base cost of 21.4p and taxation of 63.53p..... close to 300% tax!


Yes tongue.gif   isn't Socialism great?

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 02:55 PM

Try borrowing a braincell before showing yourself up with ill informed comments like that, the Fuel escalator that brought about this state of afairs was brought in by the Tory party.... bastion of Capitalism and staunch opponents of anything that could be considered socialist!

(Mind you, 'NEW Labour' has just as little to do with Socialism these days also!)

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And dah devew was paid
When dah axe comes down
A chiwin' sound
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Anothaw wabbit's dead
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With a nasty habbit

Kill dah wabbit!!! (hah hah hah)
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I'm a mean mistweetah
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Posted 05 June 2004 - 03:38 PM

well said fenris well said.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 03:42 PM

he likes to comment without actually understanding the full history of a situation.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (joc @ Jun 5 2004, 06:16 AM)
Am I the only one who read the post and thought,  "So What!"?

joc, you amaze me. Somehow I bet that if this situation was occuring in the US you'd be screaming about a communist/socialist/Left Wing conspiracy.  blink.gif

Somehow it is OK when the US takes your(and mine) tax dollar(Billions actually) and gives and gives it away to others, but not to us?

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 09:47 PM

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Somehow it is OK when the US takes your(and mine) tax dollar(Billions actually) and gives and gives it away to others, but not to us?


Not really!  I don't mind giving to others but I think they should also give us some of our money back.........oh wait......

.......they are..........the tax cuts..............YEA!! tongue.gif  

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Posted 05 June 2004 - 09:54 PM

What tax cuts are those?

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 12:37 AM

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joc, you amaze me. Somehow I bet that if this situation was occuring in the US you'd be screaming about a communist/socialist/Left Wing conspiracy. 


Are we all thinking of any particular thread here  grin2.gif

And Fenris is right, the US has nothing to complain about compared to the UK

As for socialist government... wha?

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Posted 06 June 2004 - 01:05 AM

Wouldn't it be cheaper to build a big refinery in Iraq, it would save a lot in shipping costs?


We are paying over $1 a litre here before the war it was about 90 cents a litre

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