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#1    DC09

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Posted 12 June 2004 - 04:16 PM

Iran's top diplomat said Saturday the country won't accept any new internationally imposed obligations regarding its nuclear program and that the world must recognize Iran as a nuclear-capable nation.

"We won't accept any new obligations," Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi told reporters, suggesting a toughening of Iran's position two days before the 35-nation board of governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, meets to discuss Iran's nuclear program.

"Iran has a high technical capability and has to be recognized by the international community as a member of the nuclear club," Kharrazi said at a press conference. "This is an irreversible path."

The IAEA has wrestled for more than a year with what to do regarding what the United States and its allies say is a secret Iranian nuclear weapons program. Iran has rejected such allegations, saying its nuclear program is geared toward generating electricity, not making an atom bomb.

Kharrazi insisted Saturday that Iran won't give up its development of the nuclear fuel cycle, the steps for processing and enriching uranium necessary for both nuclear energy and nuclear weapons. Iran says it has achieved the full cycle, but is not now enriching uranium.

"That somebody demands that we give up the nuclear fuel cycle ... is an additional demand," Kharrazi said. He apparently was referring to demands by U.S. and European countries that Iran halt operations of a plant it inaugurated in March in Isfahan, central Iran, that processes uranium into gas and abort plans to build a heavy water reactor in Arak, another city in central Iran.

"We can't accept such an additional demand, which is contrary to our legal and legitimate rights," he said. "No one in Iran can make a decision to deny the nation of something that is a source of pride."

Iran has confirmed possessing technology to extract uranium ore, processing it into a powder called yellow cake and then converting it into gas. The gas is then injected into centrifuges for low-grade enrichment that turns it into fuel for nuclear reactors.

Uranium enriched to low levels has energy uses, while highly enriched uranium can be used in bombs.

Iran suspended uranium enrichment last year under mounting international pressure. In April, it said it had stopped building centrifuges. IAEA inspectors had found traces of highly enriched uranium at two sites, which Iranian officials have maintained was due to contaminated imported materials.

Kharrazi condemned a draft resolution critical of Iran drawn up by Germany, France and Britain and currently debated before the IAEA board meeting Monday.

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 12:05 AM

According to what I know, Iran already aquired 4 tactical nuclear warheads through Kazakhstan after the collapse of the USSR.
Those warheads are small - 1-0.5 killoton each. The Soviets built them to be fired from cannons on large tank groups.
Also, those warheads cannot be delivered through ballistic missiles.
The Iranians probably wanted to reverse engineer them, or to add more power to them, but then they gave-up the idea and chose to develop their own nuclear arsenal from scratch.
Anyway, their main target, after a "Saddamist" Iraq, would be Israel - they don't even try to hide the fact that they want to destroy us!  disgust.gif

So if Iran gets nuclear on us, I'm running to the nearest nuclear shelter I can find! ... ahh wait... we don't have those here... *GLIMP* crying.gif

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 01:01 AM

I think they are forgetting that Iraq(And all of the US forces therein) is just hours away via a quick convoy...

...and Bush is still president.

If I was Iran, I would of kept my mouth shut...

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 01:13 AM

Not just that, but as soon as the detonation of a nuclear weapon is reported (in the case of a freefall bomb) or a missile launch, Silos from china to europe to america will go hot......then iran gets hotter, 3 million degrees hotter....

Iran wouldn't dare use a nuclear weapon, because they know it would be like signing your own death warrant. I doubt they would use one anyway, unless they were involved in a war that they were losing and have no choice but to use one...

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 02:28 AM

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I think they are forgetting that Iraq(And all of the US forces therein) is just hours away via a quick convoy...

...and Bush is still president.

If I was Iran, I would of kept my mouth shut...


Thus,  The Bush Doctrine hath teeth....had we backed down and not taken out Saddam...what do you presume the attitude of the Iranian government would be?
I would think more bold and forthright and in your face.

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Iran wouldn't dare use a nuclear weapon, because they know it would be like signing your own death warrant. I doubt they would use one anyway, unless they were involved in a war that they were losing and have no choice but to use one...


Ah, but BA...that is an assumption that the Iranians have  A. a thread of common sense and B. the complete belief that we would obliterate them....Saddam did not have that belief...maybe now they do.... thumbsup.gif  

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 02:31 AM

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...and Bush is still president.


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Posted 13 June 2004 - 02:57 AM

QUOTE (joc @ Jun 12 2004, 07:28 PM)
Thus,  The Bush Doctrine hath teeth....had we backed down and not taken out Saddam...what do you presume the attitude of the Iranian government would be?
I would think more bold and forthright and in your face.

Yep, joc you are right. I think for an added measure of our immense strength we should drop a couple tactical nukes in each of the remaining middle east countries, just to let them know we mean business. thumbsup.gif The nukes are just gathering dust as we speak, hell I want to see my tax dollars at work!

After we nuke them we could drop the leaders of each country a note via Western Union or maybe a candygram to tell them if they disagree with us we will just send the rest of the nukes we already have pointed at them...

We could let them know at the same time that we aren't going to put up with any terrorist cr@p from their people either...

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 02:59 AM

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Yep, joc you are right. I think for an added measure of our immense strength we should drop a couple tactical nukes in each of the remaining middle east countries, just to let them know we mean business.  The nukes are just gathering dust as we speak, hell I want to see my tax dollars at work!

After we nuke them we could drop the leaders of each country a note via Western Union or maybe a candygram to tell them if they disagree with us we will just send the rest of the nukes we already have pointed at them...

We could let them know at the same time that we aren't going to put up with any terrorist cr@p from their people either...


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Posted 13 June 2004 - 03:55 AM

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Yep, joc you are right. I think for an added measure of our immense strength we should drop a couple tactical nukes in each of the remaining middle east countries, just to let them know we mean business. The nukes are just gathering dust as we speak, hell I want to see my tax dollars at work!

After we nuke them we could drop the leaders of each country a note via Western Union or maybe a candygram to tell them if they disagree with us we will just send the rest of the nukes we already have pointed at them...

We could let them know at the same time that we aren't going to put up with any terrorist cr@p from their people either...


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Posted 13 June 2004 - 04:16 AM

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 08:45 AM

Well, if the foreign sources are correct, and Israel does have nukes, it will probably evolve into a "Cold War"-like conflict between Israel and Iran....
and maybe we will see some strange alliances between Israel and somw Arab states, which once hated us... after all, the Persians and the Arabs hate each other's guts!

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE (Student&Alive @ Jun 13 2004, 04:55 AM)

*Cackles*Now does everyone rest easy knowing President bush contains enough power to wipe out civilization as we know it in a briefcase?

i cant sleep well knowing that an idiotic fanatic (insert here the name you want, i put Bush and Sharon) have the power to wipe out all the work of thousands of years of civilization.....

Im an evil pinko UN slave liberal commie

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 05:13 PM

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i cant sleep well knowing that an idiotic fanatic (insert here the name you want, i put Bush and Sharon) have the power to wipe out all the work of thousands of years of civilization.....


Oh, and I guess it is ok for France, Russia, China, UK, India, Pakistan and probably N. Korea and Iran to have nukes?
Who do you call fanatics? do know where is Iran? do you know what kind of regime they have?
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Posted 13 June 2004 - 05:47 PM

yes, i know the kind of regimen is in Iran, but the fight betewn extremist and moderates paralize any agresive move.  

Im an evil pinko UN slave liberal commie

I don't think any of these "The Vague Society of Nebulous Meanies are going to take over the world and light up a planet" theories worry too much about practical considerations like that. It's all about rousing ill-informed, paranoiac fear, not making sense.

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Posted 13 June 2004 - 07:46 PM

The thing is, it doesn't matter who has the nukes. They are all capable of pushing the button, ALL capable of wiping us off the face of the planet. And with the idiots that control our countrys, i think mekorig is right in saying that.

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