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#16    danielost

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 03:58 PM

View PostMichelle, on 07 February 2010 - 06:48 AM, said:

What are they keeping them safe from?
hawks and small prediters.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:09 PM

View Postcluey, on 07 February 2010 - 10:35 AM, said:

you have never lived on a farm i take it?????........there are fox's.....depending on the country.....many wild,hungry vermin that kill chickens and many other animals on farms...............not that gekhos are a problem here.....but i have like 10-20 wild ones that come in and out of home day and night......there are awesome.....they catch mosquitoes,flies,ants.........................

You would be wrong.

I'll ask one more time......................how...do...ducks...keep...chickens...safe...from...predators?


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:12 PM

View PostMichelle, on 07 February 2010 - 04:09 PM, said:

You would be wrong.

I'll ask one more time......................how...do...ducks...keep...chickens...safe...from...predators?


the way i understand it.  they dont specifically protect the chickens they just protect their territory and if the chickens live in the territory with them.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:16 PM

View PostMichelle, on 07 February 2010 - 04:09 PM, said:

You would be wrong.

I'll ask one more time......................how...do...ducks...keep...chickens...safe...from...predators?
The only thing I can think of is perhaps foxes being discouraged by the amount of noise a pissed off duck makes.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:38 PM

And here I always thought having a rooster kept the chickens safe. We've had a couple of roosters and they are wicked evil when they want to be. Plus, if you keep the chickens in their hen house/chicken coop at night, they'll be relatively safe. During the day, there's usually too much going on and predators will keep their distance.


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:39 PM

All righty then...I hate to say it, but I think the person that told you that is full of bull, daniel. I've had turkeys, guineas, ducks and chickens...with the exception of size, in the case of the turkeys, predators aren't in the least deterred by a duck.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:43 PM

View PostMichelle, on 07 February 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

All righty then...I hate to say it, but I think the person that told you that is full of bull, daniel. I've had turkeys, guineas, ducks and chickens...with the exception of size, predators aren't in the least deterred by a duck.

We had guineas...dirty birds they are....

They might be thinking about a goose as opposed to a duck. Geese are great "guard dogs", though I don't know about their effectiveness at thwarting a hungry fox, et al.


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 04:44 PM

View PostMichelle, on 07 February 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

All righty then...I hate to say it, but I think the person that told you that is full of bull, daniel. I've had turkeys, guineas, ducks and chickens...with the exception of size, in the case of the turkeys, predators aren't in the least deterred by a duck.
Indeed... the best kind of protection you can have for them is a good strong fence with no holes or gaps and a well built coop. Depending on where you live, possibly a shotgun too.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:04 PM

That reminds me of another commmon fallacy...that hens won't lay eggs without a rooster.


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:13 PM

View PostMichelle, on 07 February 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

That reminds me of another commmon fallacy...that hens won't lay eggs without a rooster.

:lol:  it was really interesting explaining that to my kids when they were little.


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:29 PM

Hens won't lay fertilized eggs without a rooster, but they still have their own form of the human female's period. That's where the eggs we normally eat come from, yeah?


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:36 PM

Ignorant people romanticising animals, big surprise  :rolleyes:

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This part got me though. Whoever thinks keeping animals is cheap should have their head checked! Vet care, housing, feed?! We considered carefully whether we could afford a cat (food, litter, vet etc), never mind a group of pigs!
Ok, maybe if you do it on a large scale and you sell some of the products, maybe then it's cheaper but you need capital to get there first and most farmers are still anything but wealthy.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 05:50 PM

View PostCetacea, on 07 February 2010 - 05:36 PM, said:

Ignorant people romanticising animals, big surprise  :rolleyes:

This part got me though. Whoever thinks keeping animals is cheap should have their head checked! Vet care, housing, feed?! We considered carefully whether we could afford a cat (food, litter, vet etc), never mind a group of pigs!
Ok, maybe if you do it on a large scale and you sell some of the products, maybe then it's cheaper but you need capital to get there first and most farmers are still anything but wealthy.
But Cet, don't you see? These are farm animals, they practically look after themselves! All you do is go out on a morning and scatter a handful of grain, and that's your "husbandry" done for the day!  :rolleyes:

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 06:15 PM

My grandfather used to own a farm, grew up helping him on it.
I know here in Florida, even in Pensacola towards the downtown area there are people who own chickens, pigs, goats, not seen any cattle however.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 10:16 PM

View PostShadowSot, on 07 February 2010 - 06:15 PM, said:

My grandfather used to own a farm, grew up helping him on it.
I know here in Florida, even in Pensacola towards the downtown area there are people who own chickens, pigs, goats, not seen any cattle however.

Also:
One way I keep myself entertained is by asking some of my less barn yard competent friends:
"If a rooster lays an egg on a roof, and there's a breeze coming from the west, what side of the roof does the egg fall off?

Someone stumped me with that one eons ago :lol:





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