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[glowmer]

Hello all. I am trying to locate some information and or pictures on a UFO cult. I have used my google abilities as best as I could and came up empty handed. The cult was started by a man named Warren Goetz. The man "claimed to be an actual space person, having materialized as a baby in his (Earth) mother's arms while a saucer hovered overhead." The only info I could find was the name of a book he wrote called "The intelligence of the universe speaks" All I could find was used copy of the book for about $500 on amazon "http://www.amazon.com/intelligence-universe-speaks-Warren-Goetz/dp/B00072UZW4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265573652&sr=8-1" a video on youtube that shows a spacecraft he and his followers were making "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXSeRQ07vpI" and bibliography reference "http://ufobibliography.skepticreport.com/?p=1270" After this I am completely stuck. I do know that his cult was located in the DeTour Village area of Michigan I think. Please feel free to email me any potential info thanks!!!

[Evangium]

It's a start...  Somehow, I don't think you're going to find much on the web, given that very few saucer cults managed to gain any kind of infamy outsid their local areas.

[psyche101]

Do you wish to join, or study the Cult?

[glowmer]

psyche101, on 08 February 2010 - 04:08 AM, said:

Do you wish to join, or study the Cult?

I am interested in studying it.

[psyche101]

I do know that he was taken in for a princely sum by Otis Carr to develop the 4th dimension traveling saucer-shaped OTC-X1, which in turn was powered by a "revolutionary Utron Electric Accumulator." Utrons are the Aliens in TMNT aren't they?
I doubt I could tell you much, his birth story is nutty enough for me to to dismiss anything he says.

Cults are bad.

[glowmer]

psyche101, on 08 February 2010 - 06:13 AM, said:

I do know that he was taken in for a princely sum by Otis Carr to develop the 4th dimension traveling saucer-shaped OTC-X1, which in turn was powered by a "revolutionary Utron Electric Accumulator." Utrons are the Aliens in TMNT aren't they?
I doubt I could tell you much, his birth story is nutty enough for me to to dismiss anything he says.

Cults are bad.

What sparked my interest was that he intended to fly a saucer into space made out of foam, wood, and aluminum framing and the fact that someone who seemed well rounded(evident in youtube vid) actually followed this individual.

[psyche101]

glowmer, on 08 February 2010 - 07:10 AM, said:

What sparked my interest was that he intended to fly a saucer into space made out of foam, wood, and aluminum framing and the fact that someone who seemed well rounded(evident in youtube vid) actually followed this individual.

I will be interested to see what you uncover. Good luck with it.

[prairiechickin]

glowmer, on 08 February 2010 - 07:10 AM, said:

What sparked my interest was that he intended to fly a saucer into space made out of foam, wood, and aluminum framing and the fact that someone who seemed well rounded(evident in youtube vid) actually followed this individual.

Just wanted to point out that if I was to fly into space, I'd use foam, wood, and aluminum foil.

[Evangium]

You could try tracking down a copy of Douglas Curran's book In Advance of the Landing : Folk Concepts of Outer Space

Newspaper Arts and Entertainment piece -
Link to article

Omni Magazine Article
http://www.astralgia.../pdf/ufoart.pdf

Images from his book
http://www.orbit.zkm.de/?q=node/214

"Members of the Advanced Scientific Development Project... (text that appears below thumbnail- googling the name is less productive than you might be led to think)"
http://www.dougcurra...tm/iaotl_02.htm

Depending on what sparked your interest, it may be less frustrating to expand your study to include other cults that also built their own saucers.

Edited by Evangium, 08 February 2010 - 09:11 AM.

[glowmer]

Evangium, on 08 February 2010 - 09:02 AM, said:

You could try tracking down a copy of Douglas Curran's book In Advance of the Landing : Folk Concepts of Outer Space

Newspaper Arts and Entertainment piece -
Link to article

Omni Magazine Article
http://www.astralgia.../pdf/ufoart.pdf

Images from his book
http://www.orbit.zkm.de/?q=node/214

"Members of the Advanced Scientific Development Project... (text that appears below thumbnail- googling the name is less productive than you might be led to think)"
http://www.dougcurra...tm/iaotl_02.htm

Depending on what sparked your interest, it may be less frustrating to expand your study to include other cults that also built their own saucers.

Thanks. I'll look into your suggestions. The village where this cult supposedly was, DeTour Village, Michigan, is rumored to have adark past which included human sacrifices to bless the fertile land and forced isolation from the outside world. But then again it is just a rumor.

[Hazzard]

glowmer, on 08 February 2010 - 07:10 AM, said:

What sparked my interest was that he intended to fly a saucer into space made out of foam, wood, and aluminum framing and the fact that someone who seemed well rounded(evident in youtube vid) actually followed this individual.

The "interesting" part being that someone actually believed in his nonsense,.. right!??

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

prairiechickin, on 08 February 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

Just wanted to point out that if I was to fly into space, I'd use foam, wood, and aluminum foil.

Maybe the aliens who crashed at Roswell used the same instructions to make theirs.

And maybe that's why they crashed.

[glowmer]

Hazzard, on 08 February 2010 - 09:59 AM, said:

The "interesting" part being that someone actually believed in his nonsense,.. right!??

correct

[Lilly]

Hazzard, on 08 February 2010 - 09:59 AM, said:

The "interesting" part being that someone actually believed in his nonsense,.. right!??

Well, the Heaven's Gate cult believed in their brand of stuff so strongly (in their case it was a UFO in a comet) that they put on their black Nikes and drank the special Kool-Aid. Why people do this kind of thing amazes me to no end.

[DONTEATUS]

Think twice about buying Warren Goetz Little Saucer its Got the Name of "Blue Bird" That alone Screams Out Bird Brain !
And Its actually hard to Believe that watching too many series of the Invaders will do to ones Logic or Lack of their in.
Maybe the Roswell Musemum will buy that peice of Art?
And Be sure your wearing your Nike`s before getting inside that Splinter trap !

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