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#1    DC09

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:19 PM

ASTANA, Kazakhstan (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, in comments sure to help President Bush, declared Friday that Russia knew Iraq's Saddam Hussein had planned terror attacks on U.S. soil and had warned Washington.


Putin said Russian intelligence had been told on several occasions that Saddam's special forces were preparing to attack U.S. targets inside and outside the United States.


"After the events of September 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services several times received information that the official services of the Saddam regime were preparing 'terrorist acts' on the United States and beyond its borders," he told reporters.


"This information was passed on to our American colleagues," he said. He added, however, that Russian intelligence had no proof that Saddam's agents had been involved in any particular attack.


The Kremlin leader's comments were certain to bolster Bush, whose campaign for re-election in November is under pressure from the Iraq crisis.


The U.S. leader has been on the defensive at home for insisting -- against the findings of an independent commission -- that Saddam had links with al Qaeda, the militant group behind the 2001 airline attacks in the United States that killed 3,000 people and prompted the U.S. war on terrorism.


Putin's remarks were all the more unusual since Russia had diplomatic relations with Saddam's Iraq and sided with France and Germany in opposing the invasion.




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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:21 PM

So why were the russians against the war????

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (wunarmdscissor @ Jun 18 2004, 11:21 AM)
So why were the russians against the war????

I believe they were having some sort of financial dealings with Saddam...

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 09:59 PM

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So why were the russians against the war????


Saddams Baath party owed the Russian Federation, over 1 billion dollars. They ran up the debt after Russia supplied them with arms, when Saddam came to power.
They also owed France money...

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 02:49 AM

Since 911, I thought that this was true. I was very worried about Iraq devil.gif ...and now it is out.

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 06:44 AM

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They also owed France money...


france also had a multi-billion dollar oil contract in place to go once sanctions were lifted

so where are all our lefty friends?

in IRC i linked the news article and you wanna know what arguement someone gave
"if it's the Russian special services, it's gotta be right, they'd never fabricate evidence"

i mean really
thats about as bad as me saying that the Sept 11 commision was a communist conspiracy and we should ignore it.


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Posted 19 June 2004 - 02:45 PM

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Since 911, I thought that this was true. I was very worried about Iraq  ...and now it is out


To be fair babs your first thoughts after 9/11 were "taht iraq and saddam husseign were part of the attacks".

We all know how thats ended.

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 03:21 PM

I think the same as I did before. Saddam was a threat to us because he and the terrorists could make one hell of a problemo. ohmy.gif  

Now, hopefully, things are coming to light. I said that there has to be more than a band of terrorists behind 911. I think that there were governments with the terrorists, those jackals couldn't have done it by themselves.

People over here thought this, scissor...not everyone, of course.

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 08:59 PM

I think its bullshit. Putin is just doing bush a favor by covering his ass.  What russia knows, the whole world knows. Therefore America must have known. *shrugs*

*mumbles something about corrupt security services...*

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Posted 19 June 2004 - 09:53 PM

Or you just can't accept that evidence is appearing that says Bush didn't screw up.  


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Posted 19 June 2004 - 10:03 PM

I'm not even going to get into this one, there was no connection with bin laden and saddam full stop....

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 01:12 AM

good one Naveed thumbsup.gif  

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 03:01 AM

Pretty convenient for our "president" that Putin's statement comes immediately after the 911 commission reports that Saddam was not supporting bin Laden and Al Quaeda.

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Posted 20 June 2004 - 05:41 AM

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I think its bullshit. Putin is just doing bush a favor by covering his ass. What russia knows, the whole world knows. Therefore America must have known. *shrugs*


Imagine if it had been "Putin slams Bush saying they gave him intelligence to the contrary" you'd have been all over it claiming its proof of how right you are, get over yourself thanks, a world leader, against the war, comes out and supports bush, he is more in the know than you will ever be.


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Posted 20 June 2004 - 06:16 AM

QUOTE (bathory @ Jun 19 2004, 10:41 PM)
get over yourself thanks, a world leader, against the war, comes out and supports bush, he is more in the know than you will ever be.

Putin sounds supportive alright...

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However, Putin said there was no evidence that Saddam's regime was involved in any terrorist attacks.

Russia opposed the invasion of Iraq and Putin said Friday the information did not effect its stance on the war.

He said there were international norms and procedures that weren't observed regarding "the use of force in international actions."

Regarding how the information might have been related to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Putin said, "Whether or not this was sufficient basis to state the United States was acting within the boundaries of self-defense, well, I don't know. This is a separate issue."

The United States, meanwhile, never mentioned the Russian intelligence in its arguments for going to war.


Regardless, The White House is still sticking to the story that Iraq was linked to 9/11...So who knows what the heck is really going on...





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