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jacob's ladder was actually about a vietnam vet. i just saw it for the first time last week. wicked movie.
and ya know, i never realized it till now, but that movie and silent hill do have a similar trend...
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:47 PM
i still vote for social democracy. it's like communism lite! only 1/3 the calories of normal communism!
whoever said "money can't buy happiness" was never poor.
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:49 PM
| QUOTE (BurnSide @ Jun 20 2004, 12:45 AM) |
| Well, indeed as we do see in Sielnt Hill 2 people are drawn there to face their inner demons. James sees demons created by his inner guilt in which he has to overcome. These demons reflect his soul and what he had done. Eddy sees people laughing at him and bullying him, his inner demons. Which is why he goes beserk at the end and tries to shoot James. James is just another man making fun of Eddy. Angela was raped by her father. She is her inner demon, as we see in the scene where James fights the demon in the labrynth, which Angela calls Daddy. She is also fighting her inner guilt at killing her own father. These people were all drawn to Silent Hill by the powers that be to stand trial for their crimes. Of course there is also Laura. She is in Silent Hill looking for Mary, but sees it as an empty, deserted town. Laura is a child, she has no inner demons to face. The thing is with the first one is that Silent Hill changed to fit the mind of Alessa, who was burned and tortured by her mother and the cult to get the power out of her that she was birthed with. This cult and the ritual to summon the dark god Samael changed the town. It gave the town life. Harry was not fighting his inner demons, he was fighting ALessas demons. Because of the power of Alessa, her mind was manifest by the town which created demons and hideous scenes of violence and delapidated buildings, the insides of Alessas tortured soul. And of course, in Silent Hill 3, the main character IS Alessa. Does this make sense? It's VERy hard to explain. |
wow
very deep. never got even a bit of that.
i still vote for social democracy. it's like communism lite! only 1/3 the calories of normal communism!
whoever said "money can't buy happiness" was never poor.
I think there's something innately wrong about most people to inspire alien curiousity.
i'm so proud of this post...
Seriousness is stupidity sent to college. -P. J. O'Rourke
Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow. -Oscar Wilde
whoever said "money can't buy happiness" was never poor.
I think there's something innately wrong about most people to inspire alien curiousity.
i'm so proud of this post...
Seriousness is stupidity sent to college. -P. J. O'Rourke
Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow. -Oscar Wilde
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:50 PM
I apologise, Veitnam not WW2, lol. I was under the influence when watching it so don't remember the fine details.
I loved the ending.
I loved the ending.
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:51 PM
| QUOTE (chico del nacho @ Jun 19 2004, 07:49 PM) |
| wow very deep. never got even a bit of that. |
Yeah man, Silent Hill is as deep as it gets. Nothing is really explained, you have to speculate based on the information you get in the game. That's the main reason i loved the games so much.
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Posted 19 June 2004 - 11:58 PM
i love silent hill. in a way i like it better than resident evil because of the terror it puts in me.also i love the way it makes you think about everything and its psychological fear it generates. i cringe at the thought of playing them alone at night. i think the first silent hill is the best one. 2 is ok. i didnt like the bosses in it. 3 was pretty good. beat it in 7 hours tho. its really short. ive heard very little on SH4. i know that it goes into first person mode in the apartment and that theres a portal in your bathroom that takes you into the dark side of silent hill. from what ive seen, it looks scary as hell. i havent heard anything on the movie except for the fact that there will be one sometime.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 12:07 AM
Yeah, Silent Hill 4 is definately different.
It's Henry Townshead, a regular Joe living in an apartment in a city that isn't SIlent Hill. One day he finds he is trapped in his apartment, and can't get out. He's not the only one, his neighbour Eileen is also trapped. Mysteriously portals appear in the apartment. Going through leads you to different parts of Silent Hill...
The enemies look scary as hell. There's 'victims' in this one.
Victim one: A dead body that floats towards you and attacks.
Victim two: A body that scrambles along the floor towards you face down.
Victim three: An apparition with two babies faces and long arms it uses to run towards you, screaming!!
It seems more melee-based. Weapons include switch knifes, poles, axes, planks, basically anything you can get your hands on. They break too, so you always have to be on the lookout for weapons.
It's Henry Townshead, a regular Joe living in an apartment in a city that isn't SIlent Hill. One day he finds he is trapped in his apartment, and can't get out. He's not the only one, his neighbour Eileen is also trapped. Mysteriously portals appear in the apartment. Going through leads you to different parts of Silent Hill...
The enemies look scary as hell. There's 'victims' in this one.
Victim one: A dead body that floats towards you and attacks.
Victim two: A body that scrambles along the floor towards you face down.
Victim three: An apparition with two babies faces and long arms it uses to run towards you, screaming!!
It seems more melee-based. Weapons include switch knifes, poles, axes, planks, basically anything you can get your hands on. They break too, so you always have to be on the lookout for weapons.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 02:11 AM
I've only ever played Silent Hill 1, but it scared the hell out of me, which isn't easy to do. Right from the beginning where the kids stab you in the alley, I knew I was in for a completely different kind of video game..
I actually have Silent Hill 2 and 3, I've just never got to play them yet. Now that my boy can move around using anything that involves long cords is out of the question. PS2s' are too damn expensive to end up in pieces on the floor..*Sigh*..someday...
I actually have Silent Hill 2 and 3, I've just never got to play them yet. Now that my boy can move around using anything that involves long cords is out of the question. PS2s' are too damn expensive to end up in pieces on the floor..*Sigh*..someday...
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 02:19 AM
Daymn!
It makes for great late-night play. So sometime if you have a long night to spare and aren't tired, plug it in, you'll be in for a rough ride.
It makes for great late-night play. So sometime if you have a long night to spare and aren't tired, plug it in, you'll be in for a rough ride.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 03:12 AM
can someone explain to me the different endings in silent hill 2? ive only gotten one and i think it was good. but the startegy guide doesnt explain them at all.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 08:30 PM
Sure man! (You're gonna start thinking i'm the nerdiest guy ever. I really aren't, i just have a good memory and stuff when it comes to games!)
Silent Hill 2 endings.
The LEAVE ending. (BEST)
How to get it:
Stay healthy in the game. Don't wait around for Maria to follow, don't listen to her, don't pay attention to her. Don't rush to save her. Listen to the headphones in the hotel. Check Mary's picture and letter several times in the game. Listen to Mary's speech in the long hallway at the end. Kill Maria at end of game. The game will realise James cares to find Mary at all costs, and doesn't care for Maria she is only holding him back.
Ending:
James kills Maria and frees himself of his guilt. He has a flashback of Mary telling him to move on with his life, that she will always love him but he should forget her. James leaves Silent Hill with Laura, ready to start his life without Mary, without guilt or sadness.
The MARIA ending.
How to get it:
Stay healthy in the game. Stay close to Maria at all times and don't let her get hit by monsters. Save her as fast as you can. Listen to what she says and spend alot of time with her. Don't check Marys letter much, or her photo. Don't listen to the headphones in the hotel and don't listen to Mary's speech in the long hallway. Kill the Mary-demon at the end of the game. The game will realise that James cares more for Maria than he does for Mary.
Ending:
James kills the demon Mary at the end of the game. He realises what he did was right, Mary deserved to die for what she had done to him, and it was time to move on with his life. He turns his back on his guilt with Mary, and decides to start a new life with Maria. They leave Silent Hill together. But Maria starts coughing as they leave town. She is very sick. James is now cursed by SIlent Hill to watch the person he loves die over and over and over again for the rest of his life.
The IN WATER Ending. (WORST)
How to get it:
Don't heal yourself when you get hurt. Run around recklessly and at 50% health for most of the game. Do not pay attention to Mary, let her get hurt and don't stay close to her. Check Mary's picture and letter alot, and also check ANGELAS KNIFE alot too. The game will realise that James is running around in a suicidal way and doesn't care to live.
Ending:
James is in his car. Everything that happened was in his head. The body of his beloved wife Mary is beside him. Together they crash into the ocean. James drowns, he doesn't care to live without Mary by his side.
The RESSURECTION Ending: (I've never got this ending before)
How to get it:
Collect several cerimonial items throughout the game (second playthrough only). Also collect the 'book of the cult' or something like that. At the end of the game kill the evil Maria. The game will notice that you have collected all the cult items and the cult books. It will realise James has joined the Cult of Samael from the first game and plans to use the cult' power to ressurect Mary from the dead.
Ending:
He gets back in the boat and heads to the middle of the lake, to a small island. There he draws the Mark of Samael and ressurects Mary from the dead so he can be with her again.
The DOG Ending: (Joke ending)
How to get it:
There is a secret key hidden in the town of Silent Hill in someones front garden. It is in a dog house. Collect this key and use it on the locked door beside the room with the videotape in the Hotel.
Ending:
James enters the room to find a dog working the controls of Silent Hill. The dog jumps down and gives James a hearty lick!
The UFO Ending: (Joke Ending)
How to get it:
I have No clue. It's only available on the Xbox/PC version of Silent Hill 2.
Ending:
The Aliens are back from the first game! They hover over Silent Hill. Suddenly Harry, the hero from the first game, jumps down from nowhere and engages James in a fist fight to the death. The Aliens land, ZAP Harry and james and take them into their spaceship and away they go...
Silent Hill 2 endings.
The LEAVE ending. (BEST)
How to get it:
Stay healthy in the game. Don't wait around for Maria to follow, don't listen to her, don't pay attention to her. Don't rush to save her. Listen to the headphones in the hotel. Check Mary's picture and letter several times in the game. Listen to Mary's speech in the long hallway at the end. Kill Maria at end of game. The game will realise James cares to find Mary at all costs, and doesn't care for Maria she is only holding him back.
Ending:
James kills Maria and frees himself of his guilt. He has a flashback of Mary telling him to move on with his life, that she will always love him but he should forget her. James leaves Silent Hill with Laura, ready to start his life without Mary, without guilt or sadness.
The MARIA ending.
How to get it:
Stay healthy in the game. Stay close to Maria at all times and don't let her get hit by monsters. Save her as fast as you can. Listen to what she says and spend alot of time with her. Don't check Marys letter much, or her photo. Don't listen to the headphones in the hotel and don't listen to Mary's speech in the long hallway. Kill the Mary-demon at the end of the game. The game will realise that James cares more for Maria than he does for Mary.
Ending:
James kills the demon Mary at the end of the game. He realises what he did was right, Mary deserved to die for what she had done to him, and it was time to move on with his life. He turns his back on his guilt with Mary, and decides to start a new life with Maria. They leave Silent Hill together. But Maria starts coughing as they leave town. She is very sick. James is now cursed by SIlent Hill to watch the person he loves die over and over and over again for the rest of his life.
The IN WATER Ending. (WORST)
How to get it:
Don't heal yourself when you get hurt. Run around recklessly and at 50% health for most of the game. Do not pay attention to Mary, let her get hurt and don't stay close to her. Check Mary's picture and letter alot, and also check ANGELAS KNIFE alot too. The game will realise that James is running around in a suicidal way and doesn't care to live.
Ending:
James is in his car. Everything that happened was in his head. The body of his beloved wife Mary is beside him. Together they crash into the ocean. James drowns, he doesn't care to live without Mary by his side.
The RESSURECTION Ending: (I've never got this ending before)
How to get it:
Collect several cerimonial items throughout the game (second playthrough only). Also collect the 'book of the cult' or something like that. At the end of the game kill the evil Maria. The game will notice that you have collected all the cult items and the cult books. It will realise James has joined the Cult of Samael from the first game and plans to use the cult' power to ressurect Mary from the dead.
Ending:
He gets back in the boat and heads to the middle of the lake, to a small island. There he draws the Mark of Samael and ressurects Mary from the dead so he can be with her again.
The DOG Ending: (Joke ending)
How to get it:
There is a secret key hidden in the town of Silent Hill in someones front garden. It is in a dog house. Collect this key and use it on the locked door beside the room with the videotape in the Hotel.
Ending:
James enters the room to find a dog working the controls of Silent Hill. The dog jumps down and gives James a hearty lick!
The UFO Ending: (Joke Ending)
How to get it:
I have No clue. It's only available on the Xbox/PC version of Silent Hill 2.
Ending:
The Aliens are back from the first game! They hover over Silent Hill. Suddenly Harry, the hero from the first game, jumps down from nowhere and engages James in a fist fight to the death. The Aliens land, ZAP Harry and james and take them into their spaceship and away they go...
This post has been edited by BurnSide: 20 June 2004 - 08:31 PM
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 08:54 PM
thanx burnside. i have another question. you know the piano puzzle in the first game in the school? how do you figure that out with the writing on the chalkboard. ive never done it on my own, just from online guides. do you understand it?
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 09:11 PM
Yeah. The blood on the keys represented the birds in the poem. The first key is given to you. After that you have to read the words carefully, see who came next and where. If it says 'the *** came next, flying higher than the rest but behind the *' then you know that *** was on a black key above the white keys, but behind the first bird because it said he came 'next' and also behind the * bird because it says he was behind it.
i'm afraid i can't give you a better explanation than that because it's been a very long time since i've played it.
i'm afraid i can't give you a better explanation than that because it's been a very long time since i've played it.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 09:49 PM
ok. its still a little confusing but thanks
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 09:54 PM
It is really hard to explain, especially since I haven't played it in so damn long lol. I do remember working for ages on that puzzle too.
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Posted 20 June 2004 - 11:22 PM
My favorite game in the world is Silent Hill 2. I love the depth of the story, and just the feel of the entire thing. Oddly enough games don't really scare me, but I still love the horror genre. I bought SH1 awhile back, and was impressed that even with the lower end graphics. The stories are also just really good, and thats not mentioning the little things everyone talks about that make the game really sorta eerie. I'm buying a PS2 this summer just so I can play SH3 
And I can't wait for 4, it looks absolutly riveting. 
And I can't wait for 4, it looks absolutly riveting. 