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#211    Blackwhite

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 08:01 PM

There's nothing wrong with this.

In England & Wales the age of criminal responsibilty is 10.  So if you commit a crime at the age of 10 you are tried like an adult.  This is what happened to Jon Venables and Robert Thompson in 1993 when, at the age of just 10, they brutally murdered two-year-old James Bulger in Liverpool.

In Scotland the age of criminal responsibilty is 8.

However, in Pennsylvania there is no minimum age of criminal responsibility.

Edited by Blackwhite, 16 November 2011 - 08:02 PM.


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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:26 AM

It took almost 3 years from the time of the crime for this boy's trial to come up and I pretty much forgot about it until I came across this today. He was found guilty of 1st degree murder on Friday April 13, but he was tried in juvenile court. I guess he will be released when he is 21 years old. Not so sure I'm in agreement with this. I didn't want a death penalty but the article says the boy and his father are still in denial over his guilt. Don't see how that will change now, even with a conviction.
http://news.yahoo.co...-204920885.html

Edited by susieice, 15 April 2012 - 12:31 AM.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 08:37 PM

glad he was found guilty - hopefully (in a perfect world) he would never be released...


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:37 AM

It was obviously planned and premeditated.He will do it again if hes released.Hes a sociopath.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 05:49 PM

Yeah, we'll be hearing about him again someday. He's not just a sociopath, but a psychopathic double-murderer. Good luck to those who run into him when he's all grown up.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 01:08 AM

View Postsusieice, on 15 April 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

It took almost 3 years from the time of the crime for this boy's trial to come up and I pretty much forgot about it until I came across this today. He was found guilty of 1st degree murder on Friday April 13, but he was tried in juvenile court. I guess he will be released when he is 21 years old. Not so sure I'm in agreement with this. I didn't want a death penalty but the article says the boy and his father are still in denial over his guilt. Don't see how that will change now, even with a conviction.
http://news.yahoo.co...-204920885.html

Susieice, I agree that he should get a much longer sentence and chance at rehabilitation than just the few years he will be in juvenile. He is a classic sociopath in my opinion, he killed in cold blood and tried to deceive law enforcement with his lies. I also don't agree that a death penalty or even a life sentence would be appropriate for this child, but he needs long, extremely intensive psychological treatment. If they kept him for 15-25 years with signs of continuous progress with his psychological problems, them maybe he should be released under a very strict parole. However, you and I both know that a sociopath/psychopath cannot be rehabilitated, especially after the link between violence and pleasure has been cemented in the brain. I will say that I am not a psychologist of any sort, so maybe he isn't a classic sociopath, but he needs some serious help with his mental issues. I just don't see how a few years in juvie is going to acheive any kind of success in turning this boys behavior around for the long-term.

Edited by H.H. Holmes, 17 April 2012 - 01:19 AM.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 01:44 AM

I agree HHH. I thought part of the sentencing was to balance on whether or not the boy admitted his guilt. Juvenile court must have changed all that. No chance of rehabilitating someone who won't take responsibility for what he did. He'll just deny everything. Wish this had stayed in adult court. Released from juvie probably won't even get him a period of probation much less parole. He could fool us, but I'd be watching him real close if I lived around him.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 01:29 PM

Hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. He loaded the shotgun. Planned the murder. He knew what his was doing.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:50 AM

View Postwolfknight, on 17 April 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

Hope he spends the rest of his life in prison. He loaded the shotgun. Planned the murder. He knew what his was doing.
That won't happen. He was tried in juvenile court and will be released when he is 21. Unless he does something else in the meantime.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 02:41 AM

I don't understand how anyone can think he's not guilty or didn't do it


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Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:05 PM

what the fudgesicles. the death penalty is wrong on so many levels. i just find it sad how here in england a man gets 5 years for RAPE. rape which traumatises the victim.its awful. the kid killed someone and their baby. he needs to go away for ages. he knows that shooting people is wrong.





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