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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:37 PM

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A boy of 11 accused of killing his father's pregnant fianceť with a shotgun will be tried as an adult, a judge ruled yesterday.

Jordan Brown, now 12, is charged with criminal homicide in the death of 26-year-old Kenzie Marie Houk in their farmhouse in western Pennsylvania.

Ms Houk was eight-and-a-half months pregnant when Brown allegedly shot her in the back of the head as she lay in bed on February 20, 2009. Her unborn child - a boy - suffocated after her death.

Police had said Brown, now 12, hid the weapon under a blanket so her seven-year-old daughter would not see it as he entered her mother's room.

Brown then took the bus to school, apparently throwing the shotgun shell casing out on the way.  A state trooper testified that tests showed the shell was fired from Brown's youth-model 20-gauge shotgun, the gun he is believed to have received as a Christmas present.

Houk's body was only found when her four-year-old daughter told workers outside the house that she thought her mother was dead.

Prosecutors claimed Brown had been jealous of his father's new family.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 01:57 PM

And so he should be.  Do they have the death penalty in that state?

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:03 PM

I agree with him being tried as an adult. He's 12, I feel he should have known better. I wasn't an idiot at age 12. I knew guns were dangerous and could kill. I also knew what the definition of murder was and the repercussions from committing murder. By the article, you get the idea he knew what he was doing. He hid the weapon in a blanket so HER daughter wouldn't see him go into her mommy's bedroom. It's sad, I feel bad for the little girls that were left behind and for the little boy who never even got to see the light of day.

It's a shame that it's a 12 year old, because people don't know how to react that kind of thing... but really, a 12 year old should know that murder is wrong and you don't go around murdering everyone that you are 'jealous' of.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:46 PM

They said somewhere he couldn't be rehabbed so they probably diagnosed him as a psychopath. You can see the blackness in his eyes in the kids mug shot.

They're getting younger.

Kill him.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 02:01 AM

By the time a child is 7, he or she know right from wrong. I know this is a generality, but an 11-year-old certainly knows that shooting mommy with a shotgun is wrong.
I'm weary of all the excuses. American gangs use children for revenge killings, knowing that they won't get the death penalty and will almost certainly be released when they are 21 -- the most punishment they will get.
The death penalty is a joke. You'll languish on death row for at least 8 years before it's carried out. In the meantime, you can get a free college degree and some idiotic movie star will take up your case and make you famous.
Meanwhile, your victim(s) molders in the ground and the victim's family grieves every day.
We need swift, certain execution of murderers, including so-called children.
Send the little monster to Hell, where he belongs.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 03:49 AM

So young... he's gonna take up soo much tax money if he get's life, but they probably won't kill him 'cause he's young (bull) so he'll probably gobble up tens of thousands of dollars every year for the next 50 or 60 years all 'cause he's a goddamn brat. I hope he get's killed in prison.


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Posted 31 March 2010 - 04:04 AM

View PostSweetpumper, on 30 March 2010 - 09:46 PM, said:

They said somewhere he couldn't be rehabbed so they probably diagnosed him as a psychopath. You can see the blackness in his eyes in the kids mug shot.

They're getting younger.

Kill him.

Maybe it was the kids family life that drove him to this and we should kill them all? Thats not the answer man as I doubt he's Jason from Friday the 13th and if so sure kill the little basterd.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:21 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 31 March 2010 - 04:04 AM, said:

I doubt he's Jason from Friday the 13th and if so sure kill the little basterd.

His family life may have contributed but if he's a psychopath, he's not changing and has already murdered. They said they're trying him as an adult because they don't think they can rehab him the nine years they have 'til he turns twenty-one if convicted as a juvenile. That tells me he needs to be caged for life if not put down.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 01:20 AM

I dont care if he wiped out an entire town of people. I dont care if he is the son of Satan himself. NO 12 year old child should be given life in prison. Anyone who thinks he should is sick.

Edited by 284dan, 01 April 2010 - 01:20 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2010 - 01:49 AM

View PostSweetpumper, on 30 March 2010 - 09:46 PM, said:

They said somewhere he couldn't be rehabbed so they probably diagnosed him as a psychopath. You can see the blackness in his eyes in the kids mug shot.

They're getting younger.

Kill him.

Wow, no kidding! The kid looks scary as hell...

If he can't be rehabilitated, what on earth is the point in keeping him locked up? My philosophy is the same for every living creature, if they aren't going to have a life worth living then why make them live it? In doing so you make them--and everything they come into contact with--suffer. And in this case, tax payers too.


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Posted 01 April 2010 - 03:15 AM

View PostGatofeo, on 31 March 2010 - 02:01 AM, said:

By the time a child is 7, he or she know right from wrong. I know this is a generality, but an 11-year-old certainly knows that shooting mommy with a shotgun is wrong.
I'm weary of all the excuses. American gangs use children for revenge killings, knowing that they won't get the death penalty and will almost certainly be released when they are 21 -- the most punishment they will get.
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Meanwhile, your victim(s) molders in the ground and the victim's family grieves every day.
We need swift, certain execution of murderers, including so-called children.
Send the little monster to Hell, where he belongs.


if the child is being forced or cohearsed into murder that is a bit different than sneaking a gun into moms room and shooting her in the back.  not only should he be tried as an adult if found guilty they should put him straight into adult prison.  wont need to give him the death penalty or i should say state paid.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 03:52 AM

You people cant have it both ways...is it 18,21 or 12 now?

I find it idiotic that your to young at 12 to make a decision as to whether or not you want to smoke a cigarette but your not to young to make a decision whether or not killing is a good or bad idea.

when society figure out what they want please give me a call but till then im going to live out in a log cabin some where.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 04:59 AM

284 and bigdog i agree...society has failed if this is what it is producing.


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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:48 PM

Age has nothing to do with this. The boy was completely and totally aware of what he was doing, he went into the bedroom with intent, and full understanding that shooting the woman in the back of the head would kill her. How does that not deserve punishment?


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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:53 PM

View Post284dan, on 01 April 2010 - 01:20 AM, said:

I dont care if he wiped out an entire town of people. I dont care if he is the son of Satan himself. NO 12 year old child should be given life in prison. Anyone who thinks he should is sick.
Well, I'm just glad that you're not deciding how the law works...With that logic disturbed children would think they would be able to get away with anything. The kid in the article clearly knew it was wrong considering he tried to hide the gun. He should be charged as an adult end of story.





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