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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 02:02 PM

www.telegraph.co.uk said:

The amount of sea ice covering the Arctic has dramatically increased during the cold winter, reaching levels not seen at this time of year for almost a decade.

Unusually cold weather, caused by the same patterns that have given Britain its coldest winter for decades, has resulted in levels of ice cover in line with longer-term averages for the first time since 2001.

The trend was illustrated in figures for March published by the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre (NSIDC) in Colorado.

It has prompted climate change sceptics to question claims the North Pole could be free of ice during summer by 2013.

However, the NSIDC stressed the March rise in ice could not be taken as a sign that global warming is coming to an end.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 02:31 PM

of course global warming is not ending.  but perhaps they should reconsider how much affect man is having on it.

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 07:23 PM

I think Global warning may be ending


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Posted 05 April 2010 - 07:35 PM

Well I for one am damn annoyed! :angry2:

I'll be losing thousands if Global Warming doesn't come to pass! :cry:

I was promised by the GW crowd that the sea levels would rise enough for my Welsh Hill top cottage to become an Island retreat.

I've already bought the jetski and Glass bottomed boat for my Sub aqua tours of aberystwyth business!

And now you say it won't happen! Bah! :no:

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 08:27 PM

View Postglyndowers heir, on 05 April 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

Well I for one am damn annoyed! :angry2:

I'll be losing thousands if Global Warming doesn't come to pass! :cry:

I was promised by the GW crowd that the sea levels would rise enough for my Welsh Hill top cottage to become an Island retreat.

I've already bought the jetski and Glass bottomed boat for my Sub aqua tours of aberystwyth business!

And now you say it won't happen! Bah! :no:


you can still use your glass bottomed boat, you just wont be able to see the empire state building through it,

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:08 PM

View Postdanielost, on 05 April 2010 - 08:27 PM, said:

you can still use your glass bottomed boat, you just wont be able to see the empire state building through it,

I wont be able to  - its halfway up a darn hill! :lol:

Wales to New York for a Scuba trip? Its a glass bottomed boat not the QE2! :lol:

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:13 PM

View Postglyndowers heir, on 05 April 2010 - 09:08 PM, said:

I wont be able to  - its halfway up a darn hill! :lol:

Wales to New York for a Scuba trip? Its a glass bottomed boat not the QE2! :lol:
ok ok you wont be able to see big ben through it then,

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:15 PM

View Postdanielost, on 05 April 2010 - 09:13 PM, said:

ok ok you wont be able to see big ben through it then,

Maybe if I fitted it with an underwater telescope then? :unsure2:

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Posted 05 April 2010 - 09:19 PM

Is anyone really suprised by this? Anyone with half a brain knew that this AGW bull is all about taxes not saving the planet.
If CO2 was going to kill us all right away (or even in 1000 years) CO2 production would be banned outright, not taxed.


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Posted 05 April 2010 - 11:50 PM

View PostProfessor GlenBoy, on 05 April 2010 - 09:19 PM, said:

Is anyone really suprised by this? Anyone with half a brain knew that this AGW bull is all about taxes not saving the planet.
If CO2 was going to kill us all right away (or even in 1000 years) CO2 production would be banned outright, not taxed.
Yeah, shame they don't have the other half to address all the other evidence isn't it?

Your last line is beyond naive.

But hey, lets see what the NSIDC say

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Overview of conditions

Arctic sea ice extent averaged for February 2010 was 14.58 million square kilometers (5.63 million square miles). This was 1.06 million square kilometers (409,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average for February, but 220,000 square kilometers (85,000 square miles) above the record low for the month, which occurred in February 2005.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Can't beat some rubbish being spouted by an agenda driven newspaper and treating it as science eh?

Edited by Mattshark, 05 April 2010 - 11:52 PM.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 12:36 AM

View PostMattshark, on 05 April 2010 - 11:50 PM, said:

Yeah, shame they don't have the other half to address all the other evidence isn't it?

Your last line is beyond naive.

But hey, lets see what the NSIDC say


http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Can't beat some rubbish being spouted by an agenda driven newspaper and treating it as science eh?
too bad you cant read your own table.  according to your own table the amount of sea ice is going up.  it was predicted to be dropping.

http://nsidc.org/dat..._timeseries.png

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 12:42 AM

View PostMattshark, on 05 April 2010 - 11:50 PM, said:

Yeah, shame they don't have the other half to address all the other evidence isn't it?

Your last line is beyond naive.

But hey, lets see what the NSIDC say


http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Can't beat some rubbish being spouted by an agenda driven newspaper and treating it as science eh?


And your logic behind the unexpected reversal of the trend?


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Posted 06 April 2010 - 11:48 AM

View PostProfessor GlenBoy, on 06 April 2010 - 12:42 AM, said:

And your logic behind the unexpected reversal of the trend?

Systems are complex and have to be viewed over extended periods. Now wasn't that simple.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:15 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 06 April 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:

Systems are complex and have to be viewed over extended periods. Now wasn't that simple.

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too bad you cant read your own table. according to your own table the amount of sea ice is going up. it was predicted to be dropping.
Oh Daniel, that is a table with averages and 2007 and 201o, not predictions. Don't let reading things get in the way though ;)

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:18 PM

View Postglyndowers heir, on 05 April 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

Well I for one am damn annoyed! :angry2: I'll be losing thousands if Global Warming doesn't come to pass! :cry: I was promised by the GW crowd that the sea levels would rise enough for my Welsh Hill top cottage to become an Island retreat. I've already bought the jetski and Glass bottomed boat for my Sub aqua tours of aberystwyth business!And now you say it won't happen! Bah! :no:


View Postglyndowers heir, on 05 April 2010 - 09:08 PM, said:

I wont be able to  - its halfway up a darn hill! :lol: Wales to New York for a Scuba trip? Its a glass bottomed boat not the QE2! :lol:


Brilliant.  :lol:  :D

The Global warming band wagon as fell apart. the wheels come off first after a bit of wibble wobble. now its in ruins. encased in a block of ice the irony.

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