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#1    Saru

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Posted 29 June 2004 - 07:45 PM

This is mainly here for the benefit of our debate judges, but it can also provide a useful reference for debaters who'd like to know more about what the judges look for in a debate when they're assigning marks.

Once a debate is finished, a debate organiser will make a concluding post to say that that debate is ready for the judges.

The judges will need to assign each participant of the debate an overall mark out of 40. This will consist of 4 seperate marks out of 10 in 4 different areas:

Relevancy
How relevant to the topic of the debate was the debater ? Did they stick to the subject being debated, or did they wander into other subjects ? Were their points relevant to their side of the arguement ?

Countering
How well did the debater counter the points put forward by the other participant(s) ? Did they try and address as many points as possible, or ignore them ? Did they spend any time trying to put forward an arguement to counteract something that their oponent has said ? How effective were those counters ?

Style
This one is perhaps more down to personal opinion that any of the others. Did the debater come across as knowing exactly what they were talking about, or did they sound somewhat unsure of themselves ? Did their points fit into the discussion, and did they keep the reader interested ? Was the person able to use humour to effectively put their points across ?

Persuasiveness
In the end, was the debater convincing ? Were you persuaded with their side of the arguement ? Perhaps they managed to completely convince you that what they're saying is correct, or perhaps they failed to do that. Either way, this final score represents how persuasive they were throughout the debate.

Once three judges have posted their marks in a debate, the thread will be closed and the marks averaged up. The final result will then be posted.

Judges will not be allowed to judge debates in which they have been a participant.  


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 02:57 AM

Woohoo!
First off, thank you for picking me as a debate judge.

Now, a question on the judging:

When the debate is over and the judging begins, should we post the marks like this:

Debater 1: BurnSide
Relevancy: 8
Countering: 6
Style: 9
Persuasiveness: 7
TOTAL: 30

Debater 2: Falco Rex
Relevancy: 9
Countering: 8
Style: 4
Persuasiveness: 5
TOTAL: 26


OR should we just post:

BurnSide: 30
Falco Rex: 26

??



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Posted 30 June 2004 - 03:04 AM

  Dear mightiest  Saruman,

If you should ever need a judge to break any possible ties, then feel free to change Moe's name to the color green.

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#4    Saru

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Posted 30 June 2004 - 08:01 AM

I think like this would be the best way, then they can see which areas they did or did not do well in,

QUOTE
Debater 1: BurnSide
Relevancy: 8
Countering: 6
Style: 9
Persuasiveness: 7
TOTAL: 30


QUOTE
If you should ever need a judge to break any possible ties, then feel free to change Moe's name to the color green.


Thanks Moe I shall remember that  wink2.gif  


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 12:03 PM


Yay. I'm a judge. grin2.gif

Can I request that someone tells me when I'm judging, as I come and go willy nilly and miss stuff sometimes? Cheers.  thumbsup.gif


Edited by Loonboy, 30 June 2004 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 03:27 PM

Just check the debates LB, and if you see any finished Debates, go and judge em.

Someone go and judge my debate damnit, lol.


Saruman, thanks for the clear up. That's oh i'll judge. original.gif


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 03:32 PM

Are we supposed to judge last seaons debates? I'm still waiting on mine too..


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 03:36 PM

Hey, the old debates are gone.

NOOOOOOOO!!! my debate was just finished and it took so long!!


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Posted 30 June 2004 - 03:36 PM


Oh, I thought we'd be kind of nominated to judge a debate, rather than going cherry picking....



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Posted 30 June 2004 - 03:52 PM

There are actually still two debates from last season that haven't been judged, which actually provides an excellent oppertunity for the judges to try this out.

The two debate threads are :

Life After Death?

and

Pyramids, Alien Help ?

Falco and Burnside will of course not be able to judge the debate in which they participated, and in case anyone was wondering where all the debates from last season have gone to, they've all been moved to the Debates Archive board.


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Posted 01 July 2004 - 06:51 PM


Thanks Saruman!  disgust.gif  I just read the whole debate on life after death, making notes and drawing conclusions, then you close it down. What a swizz. Pish.  dontgetit.gif


Edited by Loonboy, 01 July 2004 - 06:52 PM.


Do what you want and be what you feel. Because after all, those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't 'mind.

Work hard, keep the ceremonies, live peacably, and unite your hearts. – Hopi

Listen to the voice of nature, for it holds treasures for you. – Huron

The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears. – Minquass


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Posted 01 July 2004 - 07:33 PM

Sorry Loonboy, unfortunately it wouldn't have counted even if you had managed to post before I closed it, since Burnside had been disqualified and Galor would have won no matter what the scores were.

I had no idea you were in the middle of judging the debate at the time either.

Sorry about that.  sad.gif

I could always re-open the thread and get your score anyway, we could see who would have won if Burnside hadn't been disqualified.  


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Posted 02 July 2004 - 09:40 PM

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Posted 05 July 2004 - 11:47 AM


Nah, don't be daft. original.gif



Do what you want and be what you feel. Because after all, those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't 'mind.

Work hard, keep the ceremonies, live peacably, and unite your hearts. – Hopi

Listen to the voice of nature, for it holds treasures for you. – Huron

The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears. – Minquass


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Posted 01 June 2005 - 06:51 PM

Question to all debate judges:

When a debate has finished and needs judging, should us organizers PM you to let you know, or do you prefer just checking every once in a while?

I know that we can go for long periods of time without finishing a debate, so I'm just wondering. original.gif





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