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#286    Sakari

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 03:58 AM

View PostEgo Massage, on 21 May 2010 - 03:46 AM, said:

I don't know about evil spirits, but supposedly Crowley invoked an inter dimensional entity that he called Lam, and sketched a portrait of him/it, using The Amalantrah Working. Lams portrait is of a grey alien.

I could easily draw a portrait ( although the quality would be horrible)...I am not looking for that...I am looking for physical evidence that can be verified...

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 04:00 AM

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 04:44 AM

Why invite evil spirits? Learn to access the spirit world, everything then will be at your fingertips.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:15 AM

View PostSakari, on 21 May 2010 - 02:47 AM, said:

There it is...." Believe".....Arghhhhh....SO , it is getting narrowed down now , one has to "believe" in something for it to be real?.....This seems to be part of the consensus...If this is the case , than I may as well give up now...
I think the opposite is true. To me, the idea that one needs to believe in a ritual for it to be successful suggests that any results would be psychological in origin. Why else would belief be important?

View PostSakari, on 21 May 2010 - 02:47 AM, said:

A little explanation on
the books you mentioned , and maybe it will help you understand another reason I did not choose that route.....

And THE MOST IMPORTANT PART :

"Iohé Grevis then placed a conjuration on the book that the unworthy, the unwise or those who did not fear God would not attain the desired effect from any of the workings contained therein."


Once again , a "way to get demons" that says " you have to believe"

Thanks for the suggestion , but obviously this one would not have worked for me  :tu:

I meant to refer you to the Goetia, which is part of the Lesser Key.

Yes, you are required to believe in one sense or another. You don't necessarily have to believe in God, however. Crowley did rituals invoking Egyptian god-forms instead of Yahweh. The purpose of it all is to infuse yourself with the belief that you yourself are divine or of the divine (especially the Bornless Ritual) and that you have the authority to command unseen beings to do your will. All of the ritual trappings and prayers are psychological tools to bring about certain states of mind. Some people claim to have seen spirits with their own two eyes or to have manifested poltergeist phenomena as the result of their workings. But yeah, I agree that that route doesn't sound right for you.

View PostEgo Massage, on 21 May 2010 - 03:46 AM, said:

I don't know about evil spirits, but supposedly Crowley invoked an inter dimensional entity that he called Lam, and sketched a portrait of him/it, using The Amalantrah Working. Lams portrait is of a grey alien.
He "met" this being in visions he had while performing sex magick. It was a subjective experience; any interpretation should rely heavily on the symbolism and past experiences familiar to Crowley himself. It would make far more sense to relate Lam to Harpocrates or Aiwass than gray aliens, as the latter are a relatively modern obsession.

Aiwass is more interesting, IMO. Crowley claims to have seen him with his own eyes and to have channeled prophetic material (Liber al vel Legis) from this being.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:55 AM

View PostCybele, on 21 May 2010 - 05:15 AM, said:

He "met" this being in visions he had while performing sex magick. It was a subjective experience; any interpretation should rely heavily on the symbolism and past experiences familiar to Crowley himself. It would make far more sense to relate Lam to Harpocrates or Aiwass than gray aliens, as the latter are a relatively modern obsession.

It is said/thought that the modern Grey obsession came after Crowley and because of Crowley.

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Lam, (whose name derives from the Tibetan word for "way" or "path") later became the subject of a portrait by Crowley, drawn from life and imbued with a haunting inner quality of its own. The original was first exhibited in New York in 1919 and has been reproduced several times since then, most recently in the third issue of Starfire magazine. Although lacking the crude power of Crowley's more extravagant canvases and murals, it is nevertheless a remarkable piece of work. The subject is depicted in extreme close-up and appears somehow dwarfish, despite the fact that there is no indication of scale in the overall composition. The head is large, smooth and hairless, tapering to a pointed chin. The mouth is slitlike; the eyes extend partways around the sides of the face. There is no suggestion of clothing beyond what appears to be a cloak buttoned at the neck, nor does the entity have any ears. In short, Lam resembles nothing so much as a typical UFO occupant of the "examiner" type (what Americans would call "greys".)

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In any event, the rites were duly performed as written from January 4th to 15th of that year.  It is not known if a spiritual child was enwombed from them.  What is known is that the Magickal Portal first created by Crowley, and which originally let Lam into the earth-world, was reestablished with considerable intensity by Parsons and Hubbard.  From the diaries of the participants, it is also clear that they were not as adept as Crowley in the closings of portals.  What they seemed to have accomplished was the drastic enlargement and ripping of an existing Magickal Portal and the subsequent non-closure of it.  Perhaps the rip they created was not possible to close.  In any event, the modern UFO era began exactly a year and a half later on June 24th, 1947, with Kenneth Arnold's sighting over the Cascade Mountains in Washington State.

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Also and perhaps most significantly, Kenneth Grant, head of the current O.T.O., states that: "Lam is a Great Old One whose archetype is recognizable in accounts of UFO occupants."  It would seem from this official Typhonian statement that the current invokers of Lam are absolutely clear that Lam and the grey-aliens are one.

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I just always found Lam very interesting because He was the same being I saw in a dream years before I had ever heard of Him(Lam). And I knew nothing of Crowley apart from an Ozzy Osbourne song. lol. But in my dream He wore a blue triangle pointing downwards to place His cloak together like a pin(similar to the sigil for Lucifer which I found years later as well....). The triangle was a crystal though that pulsed love. It was one of the most amazing things I've ever experienced. I wanted to take it home with me as proof but wasnt allowed. He asked me is there anything you want and I said I want that. I thought it was awesome. So I picked something very minor instead cause there was nothing else I really wanted cause I was so happy to just be with Him.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 06:58 AM

View PostKazahel, on 21 May 2010 - 05:55 AM, said:

It is said/thought that the modern Grey obsession came after Crowley and because of Crowley.

I haven't studied Lam or the Amalantrah Working, and I wasn't aware of this connection being made by members of OTO. I'll read up on that, but I don't want to drag this thread into another off topic discussion.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 08:06 AM

View PostCybele, on 21 May 2010 - 05:15 AM, said:

I think the opposite is true. To me, the idea that one needs to believe in a ritual for it to be successful suggests that any results would be psychological in origin. Why else would belief be important?

If you are dealing with inter-dimensional entities that can sense belief, it's important to them. One brief glimpse can cause belief in a person. That's why they manifest. Or at least one reason why. Once belief is established then everything changes. Belief based on not knowing and lack of experience is self delusion; any intelligent entity can work with that as well. It's like a drug or a way to get the hooks in: belief is powerful in several ways.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 03:16 PM

You dont need to have boards or evps or other useless gadgets to contact or invite them. Go somewhere abandoned and hope that there would be some of them who lives in there. Then start to talk that you know them and inviting them to your home. Also you can ask for some actions if they hear you or not.

-I know that you are here and hearing me.
-I know that you are not ghost nor alien
-I want to know about you. If you are here please let me know.
-Dont lie to me that you are a ghost or the devil.
-Show up yourself with your real identity
-I dont want to harm you, i am inviting you to my home.
-I want to know about you and i want to believe that you exist...

Thats all, try and you will have some answer. Also you can abuse and make them angry. But i dont recommend this...


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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:23 PM

Spirits don't come by request, they come by attraction. They possessed those with strong spiritual energy when they become physical weak. There are good/bad souls. It is not a good idea to bring them in. It's dangerous believe me.

My family experienced daytime shadows, voice mimics, paranormal growl, laughter.

I was like you, until cambodian new year came and I had dreams about the people who died in the killing field execution. Having dreams like that is not common. Believe me.


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Posted 21 May 2010 - 06:19 PM

View Postmarkprice, on 21 May 2010 - 08:06 AM, said:

If you are dealing with inter-dimensional entities that can sense belief, it's important to them. One brief glimpse can cause belief in a person. That's why they manifest. Or at least one reason why. Once belief is established then everything changes. Belief based on not knowing and lack of experience is self delusion; any intelligent entity can work with that as well. It's like a drug or a way to get the hooks in: belief is powerful in several ways.

Yeah, I don't buy that at all. I believed for a while, or at least tried my best to, and that didn't seem to draw anything to me regardless of how hard I tried to "make contact".

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 06:32 PM

They come if u know what are they and if you respect them... They dont need any rituals or smth like this for a call. They live like us with more abilities but we are more smarter than them. Just be yourself and call them. You dont need any spiritual talent or smth else. All of us have valuable spirits.

You will freak off when you feel what you cant see then they will appear in front of you. Day by day you will understand that you are different from others. While others are interested in other things you will have friends from other dimension that help you in every way. Do u know how we pollute the things that we cant live without them. So many entities of them hate us because we are killing this world. They share this world on another dimension with us. Co-operation, they are not creepy, they are beautiful. If a dog bites you that doesnt mean every dog will bite you. They are respectful beings like humans like `we` . Try to understand them

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 06:51 PM

Also if there is someone who lives in Bulgaria or Turkey (i dont think if someone knows these countries). I can proof that it is mega easy callin them, ... so easy. The rule is to appeal them, appealing is knowing them. If a dog comes near me and says that ``you`re a cat`` i will laugh... They are laughing while you think that they are aliens or ghosts of your mothers, demons etc... They enjoy so much... While they are moving the doors, while they flash their eyes etc... Easy, at least think that they are humans, you know that it is hard to meet with new friends in a bar or university. I hope someone can understand what i mean

Edited by xcodesia, 21 May 2010 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 23 May 2010 - 12:48 AM

If you really wanna test your mettle then try something along the lines of this.
Oh, and don't have 100 people with you, just you alone.

This is something i heard when i was younger.

After sunset, when the sky has turned dark (recommended time is midnight, few hours before sunrise) go into your home, close every door in the building, all the windows, leave nothing opened, make sure there's no way of any light entering the building, turn of the lights obviously.
Once the conditions are correct, all doors and windows closed and no sign of light, open one door in the building, any one door that will let you escape.

Leave that one door and only that one door open, most likely it would be your front door leading to the street or something, since any other door will just take you into another room leaving you still in the building.

Once your done, take enough salt to draw yourself a circle in any other place, a circle where you can sit in comfortably. Make sure the circle is close to the open door but not right next to it, just in view.
Then step inside the circle and seat yourself.
Some people say you have to recite certain prayers, others say you must sacrifice an animal, goat chicken etc, but im sure you wont do any of that so just sit in the circle.
Close your eyes and keep them closed, and wait, wait for a long time, if successful the next time you open your eyes you should be opening it because of some unknown entity.
The purpose of the salt is that the entity cannot cross into it, the only way it can cross into the circle would be if you show signs of great fear.
If your lucky enough to have a friendly entity visit you then even if it crosses you should be safe but if not then too bad.
The purpose of the one door being open is, that the only way for you to escape is through that one door, if you cant make it to the door then i guess its bad news for you.
Your other option would be to wait it out in the circle till sunrise.
Apparently if successful you can get the entity to do certain things for you. If unsuccessful then, early retirement.

But this is just stories i was told as a kid, not sure if there's any truth at all to it, just thought i should share it lol
Regardless, messing with the unknown is pretty stupid, really unsafe.
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 06:17 AM

Only a witch can bring evil entitys into are domain you can bribe them.I paid £3300 Trouble is he has taken a liking to me.I he wants a civil parknership with me, they can be a pain in the but.


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Posted 23 May 2010 - 08:19 AM

View Postchaosdarksoulz, on 23 May 2010 - 12:48 AM, said:


After sunset, when the sky has turned dark (recommended time is midnight, few hours before sunrise) go into your home, close every door in the building, all the windows, leave nothing opened, make sure there's no way of any light entering the building, turn of the lights obviously.


Don't do that. The idea of turning off the lights to experience spirits was caused by horror movies and paranormal "investigation" TV junk for spookiness (and so they can ooh and aah at nothing and say they saw a shadow). Turning off the lights will be counter-productive I think. It's sensory deprivation. Sit in a dark room long enough, and your brain will start creating stuff out of nothing to try to make some sense out of the sensory depriving darkness. You'll start seeing stuff everywhere in front of you; all nothing.

A bit on negative effects of sensory deprivation on Wikipedia:

"Negative effects

Studies have been conducted to test the effect of sensory deprivation on the brain. One study took 19 volunteers, all of whom tested in the lower and upper 20th percentiles on a questionnaire which measures the tendency of healthy people to see things not really there, and placed them into a pitch black, soundproof booth for 15 minutes. After, they completed another test, which measures psychosis-like experiences which was originally used to study recreational drug users. Five people reported seeing hallucinations of faces, six reported seeing shapes/faces not actually there, four noted a heightened sense of smell and two people reported sensing a "presence of evil" in the room. Not surprisingly, people who scored lower on the first test experienced fewer perceptual distortions, however, still reported seeing a variety of delusions and hallucinations.
According to the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease the hallucinations are caused by the brain misidentifying the source of what it is currently being experienced, a phenomenon called faulty source monitoring."


Telling him to do the same will most likely cause him at the least to sense something with him that just isn't there. Not a productive plan.

Edited by Jerry Only, 23 May 2010 - 08:35 AM.

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