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[chaosdarksoulz]

Jerry Only, on 23 May 2010 - 08:19 AM, said:

Don't do that. The idea of turning off the lights to experience spirits was caused by horror movies and paranormal "investigation" TV junk for spookiness (and so they can ooh and aah at nothing and say they saw a shadow). Turning off the lights will be counter-productive I think. It's sensory deprivation. Sit in a dark room long enough, and your brain will start creating stuff out of nothing to try to make some sense out of the sensory depriving darkness. You'll start seeing stuff everywhere in front of you; all nothing.

A bit on negative effects of sensory deprivation on Wikipedia:

"Negative effects

Studies have been conducted to test the effect of sensory deprivation on the brain. One study took 19 volunteers, all of whom tested in the lower and upper 20th percentiles on a questionnaire which measures the tendency of healthy people to see things not really there, and placed them into a pitch black, soundproof booth for 15 minutes. After, they completed another test, which measures psychosis-like experiences which was originally used to study recreational drug users. Five people reported seeing hallucinations of faces, six reported seeing shapes/faces not actually there, four noted a heightened sense of smell and two people reported sensing a "presence of evil" in the room. Not surprisingly, people who scored lower on the first test experienced fewer perceptual distortions, however, still reported seeing a variety of delusions and hallucinations.
According to the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease the hallucinations are caused by the brain misidentifying the source of what it is currently being experienced, a phenomenon called faulty source monitoring."


Telling him to do the same will most likely cause him at the least to sense something with him that just isn't there. Not a productive plan.

It's really got nothing to do with depriving someone of their visual senses so that they can imagine things, its just a condition to the summoning.

I mean, would a cold, malicious, evil demon appear on a sunny day on a beach in a swimsuit and try to scare you in front of a thousand people or would it rather haunt you in a secluded, dark place where your alone?

[_Only]

chaosdarksoulz, on 23 May 2010 - 12:57 PM, said:

It's really got nothing to do with depriving someone of their visual senses so that they can imagine things, its just a condition to the summoning.

I mean, would a cold, malicious, evil demon appear on a sunny day on a beach in a swimsuit and try to scare you in front of a thousand people or would it rather haunt you in a secluded, dark place where your alone?

Actually, that's exactly what it is.

And to your question; yes. What would make you think otherwise? Movies, TV, and your uncle's ghost stories.

[Agent. Mulder]

PETER GORE SEER, on 23 May 2010 - 06:17 AM, said:

Only a witch can bring evil entitys into are domain you can bribe them.I paid £3300 Trouble is he has taken a liking to me.I he wants a civil parknership with me, they can be a pain in the but.

you gave money to a demon?
you gave physical meterial possessions to a non physical (and quite possibly, an imaginary) being?

[PETER GORE SEER]

Agent. Mulder, on 23 May 2010 - 04:18 PM, said:

you gave money to a demon?
you gave physical meterial possessions to a non physical (and quite possibly, an imaginary) being?

Mulder, Demons need cash for his children,ask a  Wicca or witch its big business being a demon.The witch and her family shered it, plus probably her demon worshippers as well, not much to go round better than nothing.You provide the sole he might pay you ,then you might be occult allready.

[Belial]

We are all doomed, really this is so far fetched and stupid, lol to the lot of you

[Agent. Mulder]

PETER GORE SEER, on 23 May 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:

Mulder, Demons need cash for his children,ask a  Wicca or witch its big business being a demon.The witch and her family shered it, plus probably her demon worshippers as well, not much to go round better than nothing.You provide the sole he might pay you ,then you might be occult allready.

ok, now i know youre just making stuff up peter.

[PETER GORE SEER]

The truth is between me and my god,oh and that idiot with horns sticking out of his head and occult ask them.

[Sakari]

Hey all ,

I guess I can keep this open , just in case someone comes up with that sure fire plan...

Let me say , I have tried almost everything here ( did not kill any animals).I even did the salt thing last night , than took the salt away since I could care less if it "gets me"..

I printed out a Ouji board from a member here , and used a shot glass.I have tried it numerous times , not to mention , have tried that toy a lot as a child and teenager.

I even went as far as to go to Paradise Point Beach in Port Orford.( might be cove , can't remember).Two older folks passed away there a few weeks ago , washed into the ocean , and a while back a older man did the same while he was putting his wife's ashes in the Ocean.( feel free to look it up).
I went as the sun was going down , and stayed while it was dark , said a few things , and also said the things mentioned a few posts back.I have gone to Langlois cemetery , I have gone to a light house.I have done things about every night here at home.
As I mentioned , my wife thinks we have a "ghost".A guy named Jose helped Bob build this house ( it is a new house we are renting) , and Jose lived in his fifth wheel here while building.A couple of weeks before it was ready , he died on Highway 101 , head on into a tree.
So far , my feelings are being solidified as for Demons/Spirits ( evil or not ).I think it is all Psychological , or made up for attention.I also think religion has a lot to do with someone actually "believing" in them.
I have done everything I have been "warned" not to do , I have had people post wishing for bad things , I have had people tell me I am asking for death , etc...I frequent the woods at night alone , with the flashlight off most of the time.

I am " proving they do not exist"......

I am pretty much done with it....If someone comes up with other ideas , I will probably try it , just to make sure I am "trying everything I can"...

Anyway , no demons here , or spirits....Just deer , fox's , raccoons , and other wild life.Not even a dang Bigfoot....

So , every time I see a new topic of " do I have a demon in my house" it will hit a nerve even more than it had before......

[Sakari]

PETER GORE SEER, on 23 May 2010 - 05:37 PM, said:

The truth is between me and my god,oh and that idiot with horns sticking out of his head and occult ask them.

Can you give me the Occult's web address you are talking about?...Maybe their phone number?

[Sakari]

Here is something for the "believers" out there...

After I posted ( a few back) , I was going outside , before I went out of the room my wife said ( we have a ghost)...I mentioned she believes this before.She said the chair I sit in out on the deck moved about a inch on its own.She sits next to it....She swears it did...And than one of the dogs barked at it.

Kind of reinforces what I said about believing....

Anyway , me being how I am , grabbed my camera , started to video , and said " do it again" , followed by some cussing and taunting after asking did not work...And , no , it is not windy....Anyway , It never moved for me....Isn't that odd?..Works for one person who is scared that I may get a demon here , or evil spirit , or nice...Yet , when someone asking for it get;s nothing?....Hmmmmmm

Ask me , the chair never moved.Lot's of sounds here , or one of the dogs hit it , and she did not notice , or a critter under the deck hit the board it was on...Anyway , thought I would post it....And here is a pic of the chair...

And to be clear , I do not think it moved....The date is wrong on camera...no idea how to change it....

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[markprice]

I had a chair just like that fly down the steps right infront of me, but it was windy. But was it THAT windy? Lol

[Sakari]

markprice, on 23 May 2010 - 10:50 PM, said:

I had a chair just like that fly down the steps right infront of me, but it was windy. But was it THAT windy? Lol

[Eurymedon]

Here's a shot in the dark:

Perhaps you're not susceptible to this sort of thing? Your wife seems to believe on some level, however. You can always try to encourage whatever entities are out there to take possession of your wife or other family member. Young children may even work better as conduits. If there truly is nothing in the "great beyond" then no harm will come of it. If something does answer your call then *presto* you have your proof.

And maybe all of this "magic circle" and "salt" nonsense really is pointless after all. Why not merely say (or yell) out loud that there are willing hosts for anything that wants to see what it's like to take corporeal form again?

Your experiment is fascinating. Best of luck to you.

Edited by Eurymedon, 24 May 2010 - 03:04 AM.

[Sakari]

Eurymedon, on 24 May 2010 - 03:01 AM, said:

Here's a shot in the dark:

Perhaps you're not susceptible to this sort of thing? Your wife seems to believe on some level, however. You can always try to encourage whatever entities are out there to take possession of your wife or other family member. Young children may even work better as conduits. If there truly is nothing in the "great beyond" then no harm will come of it. If something does answer your call then *presto* you have your proof.

And maybe all of this "magic circle" and "salt" nonsense really is pointless after all. Why not merely say (or yell) out loud that there are willing hosts for anything that wants to see what it's like to take corporeal form again?

Your experiment is fascinating. Best of luck to you.

My wife would probably cut me off for a year...Although , I will say , I have done exactly what you have stated...Not in those exact words , but same concept....And , so far , wife is her normal self , both dogs are same , and I still regret going to bed tonight knowing I have to go to work tomorrow....So , no changes in me either...

[Eurymedon]

Sakari, on 24 May 2010 - 03:10 AM, said:

My wife would probably cut me off for a year...Although , I will say , I have done exactly what you have stated...Not in those exact words , but same concept....And , so far , wife is her normal self , both dogs are same , and I still regret going to bed tonight knowing I have to go to work tomorrow....So , no changes in me either...

Did she volunteer? Maybe you have to volunteer and invite whatever it is out there in on your own accord? I don't know. Who knew demonic entities can be so picky? It's almost intolerable.