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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 07:31 PM

www.latimes.com said:

After decades of denying the facility's existence, five former insiders speak out.

Area 51. It's the most famous military institution in the world that doesn't officially exist. If it did, it would be found about 100 miles outside Las Vegas in Nevada's high desert, tucked between an Air Force base and an abandoned nuclear testing ground.

Then again, maybe not-- the U.S. government refuses to say. You can't drive anywhere close to it, and until recently, the airspace overhead was restricted--all the way to outer space. Any mention of Area 51 gets redacted from official documents, even those that have been declassified for decades.

It has become the holy grail for conspiracy theorists, with UFOlogists positing that the Pentagon reverse engineers flying saucers and keeps extraterrestrial beings stored in freezers. Urban legend has it that Area 51 is connected by underground tunnels and trains to other secret facilities around the country. In 2001, Katie Couric told Today Show  audiences that 7 percent of Americans doubt the moon landing happened--that it was staged in the Nevada desert. Millions of X-Files  fans believe the truth may be "out there," but more likely it's concealed inside Area 51's Strangelove-esque hangars--buildings that, though confirmed by Google Earth, the government refuses to acknowledge.

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 08:23 PM

Actualy the American Government confirmed it does exist but only for an airbase. And this is old news, i heard this story about 2 months ago.


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Posted 07 May 2010 - 08:28 PM

View PostTopCatEric, on 07 May 2010 - 08:23 PM, said:

Actualy the American Government confirmed it does exist but only for an airbase. And this is old news, i heard this story about 2 months ago.

Chill out dude.
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only for an airbase but they would say that wouldn't they, oh tand then they buy up another thirty thousand acres of land around the base?

Where it states "For official use only" - gently rub a white wax candle over the area indicated.

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:29 PM

View PostBelial, on 07 May 2010 - 08:28 PM, said:

Chill out dude.
The posted link as todays date for GODSAKE  ;)

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only for an airbase but they would say that wouldn't they, oh tand then they buy up another thirty thousand acres of land around the base?

Yeah, to keep the population out.  They did all kinds of secret and highly sensitive (but entirely terrestrial) things there.


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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:30 PM

Agree Torgo (totally) ;)

Where it states "For official use only" - gently rub a white wax candle over the area indicated.

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:38 PM

Still, they never explained the federal government policy on why an US citizen (civilian, not spy or soldier) can't see or discuss of, film or audio record, and hikers can't be near the perimeter beyond the red warning sign (someone taken a picture of the sign and the base over Groom Lake many times) about this is part of the Nellis Air Force Range, not a non-existent base in the Nevada desert.

Meanwhile, the Soviet spy satellites about 1,000 kms above Area 51 taken several aerial photos in the late 1980's to display the top secret air base did exist and the Reagan administration about ready to have a nuclear war with the USSR didn't friggin' care. Does it make you wonder what the feds' priorities are...to keep us quiet about "alien"  sensitive information about aircraft technology. :mellow:

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:52 PM

View PostArchangel Michael, on 07 May 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

Still, they never explained the federal government policy on why an US citizen (civilian, not spy or soldier) can't see or discuss of, film or audio record, and hikers can't be near the perimeter beyond the red warning sign (someone taken a picture of the sign and the base over Groom Lake many times) about this is part of the Nellis Air Force Range, not a non-existent base in the Nevada desert.

They didn't explain it because pretty much everyone understand the purpose (if not the meaning) of Top Secret.


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Posted 07 May 2010 - 11:26 PM

First they denied it. Then confirmed it. Once again denied it. Make up your mind.

I'll finish reading the article after dinner.


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Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:24 PM

That...actually made sense.


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Posted 08 May 2010 - 01:29 PM

View PostMele Kalikimaka, on 08 May 2010 - 01:24 PM, said:

That...actually made sense.
I'm as stunned as you are.  :blink:


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Posted 08 May 2010 - 03:41 PM

Er, where's the conspiracy?  The article debunks the conspiracies and leaves us with what was obvious all along: the place was secret because they were testing secret aircraft there.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:22 PM

I agree with most of the other posts here... this is nothing close to new information.  The writer of this LA Times articles speaks as if she just now has confirmation of the existence of this base.  We've all known this for some time.  Test flights here during the Cold War, and especially the U-2 flights, are common knowledge.  I'm sure there are interesting stories out there from men like these about test flights and secrecy in the 60's... but I'm more interested in what's been happening lately (and I use that word loosely, by "lately" I'll say the last 20 years).  The base continues to expand, as that's evident in satellite pictures.  Lights over the base defy physics, making impossible stops and turns in the sky.  And a runway that's 12 miles long?  This is what the conspiracies are about.  Not a bunch of retired old men talking about flying Lockheed Martin aircraft back in the day.  It was still an interesting read, but we're definitely not debunking anything here.  As she writes in the article, it will probably be another 40 years before we find out what kind of technology is being tested today.


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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:44 PM

View Postilovejules25, on 08 May 2010 - 04:22 PM, said:

I agree with most of the other posts here... this is nothing close to new information.  The writer of this LA Times articles speaks as if she just now has confirmation of the existence of this base.  We've all known this for some time.  Test flights here during the Cold War, and especially the U-2 flights, are common knowledge.  I'm sure there are interesting stories out there from men like these about test flights and secrecy in the 60's... but I'm more interested in what's been happening lately (and I use that word loosely, by "lately" I'll say the last 20 years).  The base continues to expand, as that's evident in satellite pictures.  Lights over the base defy physics, making impossible stops and turns in the sky.  And a runway that's 12 miles long?  This is what the conspiracies are about.  Not a bunch of retired old men talking about flying Lockheed Martin aircraft back in the day.  It was still an interesting read, but we're definitely not debunking anything here.  As she writes in the article, it will probably be another 40 years before we find out what kind of technology is being tested today.

good point.


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Posted 08 May 2010 - 04:57 PM

Well it is TOP SECRET, that's why they don't want people peeping into their information. However, I don't know why they would if they plan to declassify it later on.

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Posted 08 May 2010 - 05:02 PM

Just more dissinformation...maybe ;)

Where it states "For official use only" - gently rub a white wax candle over the area indicated.

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