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#1    LucidElement

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 02:56 AM

I was asked an interesting question the other day.. "If you read Freud's work or pavlov, ect...., how does their teachings interest your life or my personal aspects on things.?"

I thought about frued and just figured that his findings and recognitions on the unconscious mind were flabbergasting. He is by far (to me, that is) the most intellectual psychologist to come through the game.

What about you guys? would you agree or disagree?? also, if not Freud then who would you choose?

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 05:39 AM

my psychologist retired  :no:
And my psychiatrist flew back to pakinstan

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 07:34 AM

Carl Jung and Alan Watts.

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A mind untouched by thought...the end of knowledge.
To see reality loose your opinions.

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Posted 19 May 2010 - 12:28 PM

View PostLucidElement, on 19 May 2010 - 02:56 AM, said:

I was asked an interesting question the other day.. "If you read Freud's work or pavlov, ect...., how does their teachings interest your life or my personal aspects on things.?"

I thought about frued and just figured that his findings and recognitions on the unconscious mind were flabbergasting. He is by far (to me, that is) the most intellectual psychologist to come through the game.

What about you guys? would you agree or disagree?? also, if not Freud then who would you choose?


I have not read any Frued, but I totally love C Jung ... I want to get his Red book, I have referenced him sooooo many times along my journey  ie) shadows, archtypes


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Posted 19 May 2010 - 12:50 PM

freud, jung, etc....
they all teach us that this earth is just a dream...
if all of us realized it maybe there would be no hunger, pain, war, loneliness...
but again its all part of the dream....

even i cant realize it....
grrrrrrr

I was born crying, I die crying,
Why i cant remember the days of the past..
Internal silence Keep it...
im going gone insane...
I must be infinite!!!


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Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:33 AM

nohands.. can you tell me more specifically or find me a website where he talks about that? I never understood him to theorize that?

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:54 AM

I like Jung but was intrigued by Freud's early works. By the standards of many, they were quite a challenge. As many know Lucid Element Freud worked with a certain group of women.

Have you ever seen the drawings of women related to his written works?

Any thoughts?

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 03:33 PM

just search jung in the web...
im embarrassed that i neither find a site which composed of all jung's writings..
so just search...
sorry

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Why i cant remember the days of the past..
Internal silence Keep it...
im going gone insane...
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Posted 01 June 2010 - 11:24 PM

First off, let me just say that I am majoring in psychology, so I've learned a lot about Freud. With that being said, I absolutely cannot stand Freud ever since I learned his explanation for why people molest young children. His reasoning was, put simply, "they wanted it".
Seriously!? Ugh. That just sickens me. And it's also believed that he molested his daughter, Anna Freud. However, that can't be proven. There is however a letter that she wrote which she doesn't want to be opened until 2020. I wonder what that letter says....
Also, his entire psychosexual theory is ridiculous. To suggest that children have sexual instincts from birth is, in my opinion, complete idiocy. Then, Freud further develops his theory to suggest that all children have a desire to sleep with their opposite sex parent, which is how he came to believe that "children are molested because they want it". That's just sick.
And my last point is that he believes that all of adults problems are because of events that happened in one's childhood. I personally believe that what happened in the past should not be the focus of any patients psychological treatment. Because of this I disagree with psychoanalytic therapy. I believe client centered therapy is the way to go.

Whenever Freud comes up, I can't wait for the module to be over. Even both of my professors cannot stand his ideas, but teach it because it's part of the course.

That being said, I do find his ideas about the "unconscious" mind to be a little intriguing, more specifically the idea that dreams are the "Royal Road to the Unconscious". However, his beliefs about all childhood issues greatly overpowers my curiosity about his other ideas.

A psychologist that I do agree with is Eric Erikson. In contrast to Freud's psychosexual theory, Erikson created his psychosocial theory of development. To me, it makes more sense if you actually read through it instead of believing that children have sexual desires from the moment they are born.

Also, Pavlov's discovery about conditioning is amazing to me. I have done experiments using classical conditioning myself to see if I could get desirable results. It actually works! Pavlov (although accidentally) made a fine discovery.

I'd be interested to know what exactly you guys find interesting about Freud's research though.


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Posted 02 June 2010 - 09:41 PM

Mr. T
2020 isn't that far away from now, I'll still be alive so..10 more years to go, lets start the countdown! lol While Freud did have sparks of genius, he also came up with as you said uhmm not so good reasoning and rather disturbing.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 02:16 AM

Wasn't Freud also a coke addict ?


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Posted 03 June 2010 - 03:30 AM

View Postpuridalan, on 02 June 2010 - 09:41 PM, said:

Mr. T
2020 isn't that far away from now, I'll still be alive so..10 more years to go, lets start the countdown! lol While Freud did have sparks of genius, he also came up with as you said uhmm not so good reasoning and rather disturbing.

Yes! I'm anxious to find out what is in the letter.
And yeah, like I said I find some of his ideas interesting, but there were more things that were so bizarrely wrong in my opinion.


View PostHalfwolf, on 03 June 2010 - 02:16 AM, said:

Wasn't Freud also a coke addict ?

Hahaha.
Well, I haven't heard that one but honestly I wouldn't doubt it.


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Posted 03 June 2010 - 10:57 AM

Eric Berne.


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Posted 02 July 2010 - 01:05 AM

View PostLucidElement, on 19 May 2010 - 02:56 AM, said:

I was asked an interesting question the other day.. "If you read Freud's work or pavlov, ect...., how does their teachings interest your life or my personal aspects on things.?"

I thought about frued and just figured that his findings and recognitions on the unconscious mind were flabbergasting. He is by far (to me, that is) the most intellectual psychologist to come through the game.

What about you guys? would you agree or disagree?? also, if not Freud then who would you choose?



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Posted 07 July 2010 - 05:41 AM

[quote name='LucidElement' date='19 May 2010 - 03:56 AM' timestamp='1274237792' post='3419614']
  I am sorry
     Freud was a master in his own right,
         His ideas on the reality and the mind changed western culture forever. A word-ologist created terms like psychology and para-phraxes, psychosis, neurosis,  etc. Now how can someone come up with a names like paranoid, mani n-depresent but these are now house hold word or terms.





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