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[Corp]

If street view is the greatest breech in privacy history than damn we're in better shape than I thought.

[and then]

When the expectation of privacy is a thing of the past I hope that the mores of our society calculate that into behavior.  If anyone's surfing habits can be made public to any degree, no matter how embarrassing they might be, then society should just shrug and say so what...right?
Nah..I doubt it.  Publicly posting such info would end marriages, partnerships, businesses - hell it might even cause real mayhem like murder.  Some cities combat prostitution by publicizing the names of the customers.  this could go WAY BEYOND that little embarrassment. Hypothetically speaking..of course

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ninjadude, on 12 March 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

Don't believe everything you read on the internet. And especially from fox news. They are an entertainment company.

The Google company has already admitted to collecting this private information over a period of more than three years (2006-2010) by use of their Street View mapping vehicles.

Google Says It Collected Private Data by Mistake

Edited by Silvergun Superman, 13 March 2012 - 07:19 PM.

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747400, on 12 March 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

how can they possibly do that? Do they suppose that they're really packed with Surveillance equipment that intelligence services would probably give their right arm for?

If Google has the means to collect such information by driving past your house you can rest assured intelligence agencies are capable of doing the same.

I don't fully understand how it works, but in reading about this subject it appears they collect the information through wireless internet transmissions.

[ninjadude]

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data that happened to be transmitted over nonpassword protected Wi-Fi networks

See this makes it NOT Googles fault. If you advertise your passwords and financial data on nonpassword protected wifi networks, it's your own damn fault. You don't have a leg to stand on. It's like panting a sign on your front door with your SS number and bank account information. It's not a privacy issue. It's a stupidity issue.

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ninjadude, on 14 March 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

See this makes it NOT Googles fault. If you advertise your passwords and financial data on nonpassword protected wifi networks, it's your own damn fault. You don't have a leg to stand on. It's like panting a sign on your front door with your SS number and bank account information. It's not a privacy issue. It's a stupidity issue.

You're entitled to have your own take on the subject, but it is most definitely a privacy issue. No one should be able to obtain others private information simply by passing by their house on the street.

And despite what you state above, it is very much so Google's fault. They've even acknowledged as much. They had some code put into their hardware that allowed them to collect this information. The code shouldn't have been placed into whatever device used that collected this data. Google has said that themselves.

To add to that, it appears what they did is also illegal (or at least it seems it is in some countries).

[ZaraKitty]

Google is the ex that just never got over you..

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ZaraKitty, on 14 March 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Google is the ex that just never got over you..

Just stalking for now...the blackmail comes later

[ninjadude]

Silvergun Superman, on 14 March 2012 - 04:22 AM, said:

You're entitled to have your own take on the subject, but it is most definitely a privacy issue. No one should be able to obtain others private information simply by passing by their house on the street.

You clearly don't understand WIfi and what Non-protected networks mean. If you use Wireless over an unprotected network, you are BROADCASTING this information to the STREET. ANYONE can see your private information. Your neighbors, cars passing by, people walking, phones, tablets, whatever. It's YOUR fault, not Google. They didn't data mine it. They didn't unencrypt it. They didn't break into anything. They just received it. In the clear.

[Wickian]

It's hard to call anything that takes pictures of the street anyone can freely walk on an invasion of privacy.

If you don't want something seen to the public, put up a fence or bring it indoors.

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ninjadude, on 14 March 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

You clearly don't understand WIfi and what Non-protected networks mean. If you use Wireless over an unprotected network, you are BROADCASTING this information to the STREET. ANYONE can see your private information. Your neighbors, cars passing by, people walking, phones, tablets, whatever. It's YOUR fault, not Google. They didn't data mine it. They didn't unencrypt it. They didn't break into anything. They just received it. In the clear.

They CHOSE to collect data that was unprotected.  They are FULLY aware that many who use the technology don't have a good understanding of how it works.  I notice you didn't include his entire quote:  Silvergun Superman said:
And despite what you state above, it is very much so Google's fault. They've even acknowledged as much. They had some code put into their hardware that allowed them to collect this information. The code shouldn't have been placed into whatever device used that collected this data. Google has said that themselves.

To add to that, it appears what they did is also illegal (or at least it seems it is in some countries).

Sure looks like intent to me.  It's a shi&&y thing to do and no business does anything without the intent for profit of some kind.

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ninjadude, on 14 March 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

You clearly don't understand WIfi and what Non-protected networks mean. If you use Wireless over an unprotected network, you are BROADCASTING this information to the STREET. ANYONE can see your private information. Your neighbors, cars passing by, people walking, phones, tablets, whatever. It's YOUR fault, not Google. They didn't data mine it. They didn't unencrypt it. They didn't break into anything. They just received it. In the clear.

Like "and then" said, you didn't include my entire quote.

Google had a code put into whatever device collected this information that they readily admit wasn't supposed to be there. Google has acknowledged wrong doing here. I fail to see why you are overlookig that.

And furthermore, it is my understanding that what they did is illegal (in some countries, if not all of them).

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Wickian, on 14 March 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

It's hard to call anything that takes pictures of the street anyone can freely walk on an invasion of privacy.

If you don't want something seen to the public, put up a fence or bring it indoors.

Apparently you haven't read what this thread is discussing.

The issue isn't that Google took pictures of people's houses. The issue is that they collected private information (emails, passwords, bank info, etc) by tapping into people's activities on wifi internet connections.

Edited by Silvergun Superman, 14 March 2012 - 09:34 PM.

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Silvergun Superman, on 14 March 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Apparently you haven't read what this thread is discussing.

The issue isn't that Google took pictures of people's houses. The issue is that they collected private information (emails, passwords, bank info, etc) by tapping into people's activities on wifi internet connections.

Why don't they have a password on their router?  It takes less than 3 minutes to set it up.

[Bavarian Raven]

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Soon privacy will be relegated to the past, where it belongs, along with all the other fads that eventually became outmoded.

i really hope this was sarcasm. if not, i feel sorry for you