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[Knul]

Abramelin, on 17 February 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

LOL.

I'll tell you a funny story.



And then this woman starts telling me I had been a pirate captain...

But ok, Otharus wants me to be a Greek priest, lol.

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The funny thing in reincarnation stories is, that the reincarnated persons were always mighty people in their past lives.

[Abramelin]

Knul, on 17 February 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

The funny thing in reincarnation stories is, that the reincarnated persons were always mighty people in their past lives.

Not always, but I don't believe in it anyway.

And the socalled life I described was in fact nothing but the life of some hooligan with a bunch of comrades on a ship.

[Abramelin]

Knul, on 17 February 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

For those interested in the manuscript text of the OLB: today I published a new transcription, in which many (but not yet all) mistakes made by Ottema have been corrected. You find the new transcription on: http://webc.rodinboo...manuscript.html. Besides it is for the first time, that the lines have been numbered. It appeared crucial, that each page - except the Hidde and Liko introductions - contain 32 lines throughout the whole OLB., written in one hand only and showing non-linguistic cutting of words over two lines (in many cases somewhere in the middle of words). In the latter case special attention is asked for cutting words with the ending -on (imperf. plural) like gvng-on. See also my remarks on typography (in Dutch).

Menno, this is where I end up when I click on your link: https://www.one.com/en/admin/login

This is the correct link: http://rodinbook.nl/olbmanuscript.html

And Menno, I don't know if you realized it, but the number 32 seems to be important:

On page 46 of the original manuscript there are only 32 Yule wheels with letters below them...

No -GS and no -W- are in Yule wheels, although they do show up in the text.

Look here: http://images.tresoa...php?p=48&pm=212

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Edited by Abramelin, 17 February 2012 - 06:19 PM.

[Knul]

Abramelin, on 17 February 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Menno, this is where I end up when I click on your link: https://www.one.com/en/admin/login

This is the correct link: http://rodinbook.nl/olbmanuscript.html

And Menno, I don't know if you realized it, but the number 32 seems to be important:

On page 46 of the original manuscript there are only 32 Yule wheels with letters below them...

No -GS and no -W- are in Yule wheels, although they do show up in the text.

Look here: http://images.tresoa...php?p=48&pm=212

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I see, I had to refer to the open session: http://rodinbook.nl/...anuscript.html/.

The number 32 belongs to the series 4 - 8 -16 - 32 -64 , being the number of katerns. It may also be the number of the 32 letters of the OLB alphabet.

Edited by Knul, 17 February 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[Abramelin]

Knul, on 17 February 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

I see, I had to refer to the open session: http://rodinbook.nl/...anuscript.html/.

The number 32 belongs to the series 4 - 8 -16 - 32 -64 , being the number of katerns. It may also be the number of the 32 letters of the OLB alphabet.

Menno, none of your links work if you keep adding a period right after the url.

http://rodinbook.nl/olbmanuscript.html

Anyway, 32 letters while there are actually 2 more, and 210 official pages in the OLB while there are actually 2 more...

Now I have very often been thinking about some kind of code to crack the OLB. You know, like for instance taking every 32d letter of the manuscript, and maybe starting with the page that has number 1 written on top (leaving out the first two, unnumbered pages)? The obvious problem for that kind of approach are all the blancs, connecting underscore-lines, tildes, and ink-blobs.



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Edited by Abramelin, 17 February 2012 - 08:53 PM.

[Knul]

Abramelin, on 17 February 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

Menno, none of your links work if you keep adding a period right after the url.

http://rodinbook.nl/olbmanuscript.html

Anyway, 32 letters while there are actually 2 more, and 210 official pages in the OLB while there are actually 2 more...

Now I have very often been thinking about some kind of code to crack the OLB. You know, like for instance taking every 32d letter of the manuscript, and maybe starting with the page that has number 1 written on top (leaving out the first two, unnumbered pages)? The obvious problem for that kind of approach are all the blancs, connecting underscore-lines, tildes, and ink-blobs.



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Maybe it is too early now to look for a code untill the text line for line has been checked. If you come across differences between the MS text and Ottema's text, I would like to know. I remember we discussed willath - nillath earlier, but I have not yet located that page.

[Knul]

Abramelin, on 17 February 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Not always, but I don't believe in it anyway.

And the socalled life I described was in fact nothing but the life of some hooligan with a bunch of comrades on a ship.

But you were the pirate captain, which is nothing less than a sea warlord.

[Abramelin]

Knul, on 17 February 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

Maybe it is too early now to look for a code untill the text line for line has been checked. If you come across differences between the MS text and Ottema's text, I would like to know. I remember we discussed willath - nillath earlier, but I have not yet located that page.

The trouble with trying to unlock the OLB using cryptography is how important are those many 'tildes', ~~~~, how important are the many ink-blobs, how important are the blancs, and so on.

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Willath-Nillath? I remember you mentioned it long ago.

[Abramelin]

Knul, on 17 February 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

But you were the pirate captain, which is nothing less than a sea warlord.

Jesus, he was nothing but some hooligan who owned a ship and was able to pay some other guys to row his ship.

And then set out for a raid and kill the people they meet on their raids to get the loot, or kill for fun, or because they were afraid.

Nothing special at all.

It's not like a dream of being Alexander the Great or something?

And that was all to it: a DREAM.

But somehow this woman picked it up and told me about it.

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I sat in a chair that creaked with every move I made (me moving every time she said something that was true. Her eyes were closed, but her ears were very OPEN.

So, even with her eyes closed, she knew she was spot on, or totally wrong, just by the sound the chair I was sitting on made.

I am a skeptic, Menno, and I also know a thing or two about how to get info from people, info they do not want to disclose.


It's like a game, nothing more, nothing less. But your senses must be acute.

Ask any poker player.




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Edited by Abramelin, 17 February 2012 - 10:28 PM.

[The Puzzler]

Abramelin, on 17 February 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Not always, but I don't believe in it anyway.

And the socalled life I described was in fact nothing but the life of some hooligan with a bunch of comrades on a ship.

It was a great story. lol

[Van Gorp]

Otharus, on 23 August 2011 - 06:35 PM, said:

Very interesting Abe.
They must indeed have been tribes of the same origin.
I wonder what the original meaning of their names might have been.

Dark history of Menapii and Chauci? As always: Ver Schrieck Nie!

Menapii -> Me-Na-By -> Mee Nabij -> onze buren die met ons zijn -> Allied Neighbours (Doornik region)
Chauci  -> Ga-Houck -> Hoekig gaan, binnenvallen -> Tsjokken (to shock, see Choques in Frans Vlaanderen) -> to be shocked

And to make the movie complete we have
Germani -> Geer-mannen -> Samenkomen (vergaren, vergaderen, guerre)
Alemani -> Hale-mannen -> Allemant is a village in Frans Vlaanderen
Gaulen  -> Ga-Halen -> We gaan het halen, wat ze ons hebben afgepakt!

And whom did the Romans fight against? :-)

I think the Roman/Greek/Norse non-sense tales, make sense if you just watch the circumstances.
One of such is the misintrepretation/projection of local names to far of regions (whether due to lack of knowledge or blunt trickery)

Many of these "twists" are present in world history.
The fairy tale to debunk, is the big one we are told to remember in school (not OLB).  This will be made Diets to the world.
Before tackling OLB: Hollandia will first have to face a much broader scheme.  

Plato said: "sozein ta phainomena", romantic translated as 'save' the phenomenas.
Every body can see that Plat-Hoh (High Plane) said what he said: "Zo zijn de fenomenen"  ...  and then there is nothing more to be known.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 16 February 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

I really hope this thread never ends.

OK, sometimes we are not serious and fooling around a bit, but next day we 'sharpen our knives' and are back in business.

I can truelly honestly - and whatever adverb I should add to show my appreciation - say this: this gigantic thread has become something I really love.

Well said.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 16 February 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

I must be a descendant of those OLB guys who pronounced "Aldland" as "Atland", LOL.
That would be a thing from people living in The Hague.

New-Frisian also has the silent "l" in words like āld, kāld, sālt, hold, silst, wolst.

Similarly a silent "f" in ōfsmite, "h" in hja, "r" in swart, "t" in kastke, "d" in wurdst.

(Source: Basiscursus Frysk, Afūk)

[Otharus]

Welcome back, Puzzler.

The Puzzler, on 17 February 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

cop ... flak

I understand that is an Ozzy expression, meaning receive criticism.

Funny, I had never heard that one.

[Otharus]

Abramelin, on 17 February 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

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You can imagine that what I read in that book really amazed me for my dream had been about exactly that.

And then this woman starts telling me I had been a pirate captain...

But ok, Otharus wants me to be a Greek priest, lol.

That was a good read Abe, you have an entertaining writing style.

Dreams have always fascinated me, I remember some from when I was only 5.

I like your explanation of the 'clairvoyant' woman (in a more recent post).

But how do you explain that dream?

Had you been watching films, documentaries, been reading related books?

I have changed my mind about those Greek priests. They should be older.

You might be better as a see-dog (Dutch: zee-rob).

We'll need many.