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#10936    Knul

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 07 April 2012 - 08:11 AM, said:

Last post was about Overwijn's maps in his book about the OLB: April 3d. Scroll up and you will see.

Google translator cannot translate Dutch texts in old spelling (from before around the 70's of the past century), and even when it translates from modern Dutch the translation most often sucks. Just look at the tome you posted a week or so ago: you had obviouslsy used an online translator, but never bothered to check what it made of your Dutch original.

It also cannot translate Dutch texts from scans.

You should realize that much of the online nonsense about the OLB is based on the fact that most non-Dutch who write about the OLB cannot read the Dutch texts and sources we are able to read as the Dutch we are (or Belgiums and South Africans).

If I can find it again, I will post a link to a not that old thread about the OLB on the 'ForumSkadi' board. Then you will get an idea what I mean.

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EDIT:

Here it is, and read the posts by "ordruf":

http://forums.skadi....ght=Oera&page=3

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

View PostKnul, on 07 April 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

That's better.



Now I have a question (related to this):

MS 136 r. 13 reads KASAMYR ÐET IS SJELDSUM - Kasjmir means rare. Where did the author get this meaning from ? Volney ? Sanskrit or Urdu ? I have not yet found the explanation.

This is the official etymology:

The word Kashmir is an ancient Sanskrit word which literally means Land of Kashyap Rishi. Kashyap Rishi was a Saraswat Brahmin and one of the Saptarshis, who was key in formalizing the ancient Historical Vedic Religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir


KASAMYR ÐET IS SJELDSUM
Kasamyr, dat is zeldzaam
Kasamyr, that means rare


I checked online glossaries and dictionaries (Urdu, Hindi, Sanskrit, Tamil, Farsi, Old-Frisian) but couldn't find anything even remotely hinting at 'rare'.

My idea is that we will have to chop up this word, OLB style, and see what we get using the parts.

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EDIT:

We already discussed that name here:

http://www.unexplain...=184645&st=5190

And whatever we came up with, it was nothing like a real answer.


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Edited by Abramelin, 07 April 2012 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 07 April 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

This is the official etymology:

The word Kashmir is an ancient Sanskrit word which literally means Land of Kashyap Rishi. Kashyap Rishi was a Saraswat Brahmin and one of the Saptarshis, who was key in formalizing the ancient Historical Vedic Religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir


KASAMYR ÐET IS SJELDSUM
Kasamyr, dat is zeldzaam
Kasamyr, that means rare


I checked online glossaries and dictionaries (Urdu, Hindi, Sanskrit, Tamil, Farsi, Old-Frisian) but couldn't find anything even remotely hinting at 'rare'.

My idea is that we will have to chop up this word, OLB style, and see what we get using the parts.

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EDIT:

We already discussed that name here:

http://www.unexplain...=184645&st=5190

And whatever we came up with, it was nothing like a real answer.


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I know, it is hard to find. Maybe it helps to find KRIS-EN - ÐÆT IS HERDER, which should be the same language (or again Volney). The names of Fot, Boedha and Krishna occur in Volney and I found, that Halbertsma might have used the Dutch translation of the book, but it is not on his booklist. It's the same book that occurs on the booklist of Cornelis over de Linden, both in French and Dutch. s. Volney, Aantekeningen p. 248 ad p. 140 (60). All agree that Krisna, Fot and Jezus have completely the same characteristics. It is associated with the occult religion of Mithra.

Here is the English text on Fot.:


Beyond these, that cloud of standards, which, on a yellow ground, god, whoreins under different names in the nations of the East. The Chinese adores himin Fot,* the Japanese in Budso, the Ceylonese in Bedhou, the people of Laos inChekia, of Pegu in Phta, of Siam in Sommona-Kodom, of Thibet in Budd and in La...

  * The original name of this god is Baits,which in Hebrew

  signifies an egg. The Arabs pronounce it Baidh, giving to

  the dh an emphatic sound which makes itapproach to dz.

  Kempfer, an acurate traveler, writes itBudso, which must be

  pronounced Boudso, whence is derived thename of Budsoist

  and of Bonze, applied to the priests. Clement of

  Alexandria, in his Stromata, writes itBedou, as it is

  pronounced also by the Chingulais; andSaint Jerome, Boudda

  and Boutta. At Thibet they call it Budd; and hence thename

  of the country called Boud-tan andTi-budd: it was in this

  province that this system of religion wasfirst inculcated

  in Upper Asia; La is a corruption ofAllah, the name of God

  in the Syriac language, from which many ofthe eastern

  dialects appear to be derived. The Chinese having neither b

  nor d, have supplied their place by f andt, and have

  therefore said Fout.



The Lama was going on with his reading, when the Christians interruptedhim, crying out that this was their own religion adulterated—that Fot was noother than Jesus himself disfigured, and that the Lamas were the Nestorians andthe Manicheans disguised and bastardized.*

  * This is asserted by our missionaries,and among others by

  Georgi in his unfinished work of theThibetan alphabet: but

  if it can be proved that the Manicheanswere but

  plagiarists, and the ignorant echo of adoctrine that

  existed fifteen hundred years before them,what becomes of

  the declarations of Georgi? See upon this subject, Beausob.

  Hist. du Manicheisme.

But the Lama, supported by the Chamans, Bonzes, Gonnis, Talapoins of Siam, of Ceylon, of Japan, and of China, proved to the Christians, even from their own authors, that the doctrine of the Samaneans was known through the East more than a thousand years before the Christian era; that their name was cited before the time of Alexander, and that Boutta, or Beddou, was known before Jesus.*

     * The eastern writers in general agree in placing the birth     of Beddou 1027 years before Jesus Christ, which makes him     the contemporary of Zoroaster, with whom, in my opinion,     they confound him.  It is certain that his doctrine     notoriously existed at that epoch; it is found entire in     that of Orpheus, Pythagoras, and the Indian gymnosophists.     But the gymnosophists are cited at the time of Alexander as     an ancient sect already divided into Brachmans and     Samaneans.  See Bardesanes en Saint Jerome, Epitre a Jovien.     Pythagoras lived in the ninth century before Jesus Christ;     See chronology of the twelve ages; and Orpheus is of still     greater antiquity.  If, as is the case, the doctrine of     Pythagoras and that of Orpheus are of Egyptian origin, that     of Beddou goes back to the common source; and in reality the     Egyptian priests recite, that Hermes as he was dying said:     "I have hitherto lived an exile from my country, to which I     now return.  Weep not for me, I ascend to the celestial     abode where each of you will follow in his turn: there God     is: this life is only death."—Chalcidius in Thinaeum.     Such was the profession of faith of the Samaneans, the     sectaries of Orpheus, and the Pythagoreans.  Farther, Hermes     is no other than Beddou himself; for among the Indians,     Chinese, Lamas, etc., the planet Mercury and the     corresponding day of the week (Wednesday) bear the name of     Beddou, and this accounts for his being placed in the rank     of mythological beings, and discovers the illusion of his     pretended existence as a man; since it is evident that     Mercury was not a human being, but the Genius or Decan, who,     placed at the summer solstice, opened the Egyptian year;     hence his attributes taken from the constellation Syrius,     and his name of Anubis, as well as that of Esculapius,     having the figure of a man and the head of a dog: hence his     serpent, which is the Hydra, emblem of the Nile (Hydor,     humidity); and from this serpent he seems to have derived     his name of Hermes, as Remes (with a schin) in the oriental     languages, signifies serpent.  Now Beddou and Hermes being     the same names, it is manifest of what antiquity is the     system ascribed to the former.  As to the name of Samanean,     it is precisely that of Chaman, still preserved in Tartary,     China, and India.  The interpretation given to it is, man of     the woods, a hermit mortifying the flesh, such being the     characteristic of this sect; but its literal meaning is,     celestial (Samaoui) and explains the system of those who are     called by it.—The system is the same as that of the     sectaries of Orpheus, of the Essenians, of the ancient     Anchorets of Persia, and the whole eastern country.  See     Porphyry, de Abstin. Animal.     These celestial and penitent men carried in India their     insanity to such an extreme as to wish not to touch the     earth, and they accordingly lived in cages suspended from     the trees, where the people, whose admiration was not less     absurd, brought them provisions.  During the night there     were frequent robberies, rapes and murders, and it was at     length discovered that they were committed by those men,     who, descending from their cages, thus indemnified     themselves for their restraint during the day.  The Bramins,     their rivals, embraced the opportunity of exterminating     them; and from that time their name in India has been     synonymous with hypocrite.  See Hist. de la Chine, in 5     vols. quarto, at the note page 30; Hist. de Huns, 2 vols.     and preface to the Ezour-Vedam.Then, retorting the pretensions of the Christians against themselves: "Prove to us," said the Lama, "that you are not Samaneans degenerated, and that the man you make the author of your sect is not Fot himself disguised. Prove to us by historical facts that he even existed at the epoch you pretend; for, it being destitute of authentic testimony,* we absolutely deny it; and we maintain that your very gospels are only the books of some Mithriacs of Persia, and the Essenians of Syria, who were a branch of reformed Samaneans."**

     * There are absolutely no other monuments of the existence     of Jesus Christ as a human being, than a passage in Josephus     (Antiq. Jud. lib. 18, c.3,) a single phrase in Tacitus     (Annal. lib. 15, c. 44), and the Gospels.  But the passage     in Josephus is unanimously acknowledged to be apocryphal,     and to have been interpolated towards the close of the third     century, (See Trad. de joseph, par M. Gillet); and that of     Tacitus in so vague and so evidently taken from the     deposition of the Christians before the tribunals, that it     may be ranked in the class of evangelical records.  It     remains to enquire of what authority are these records.     "All the world knows," says Faustus, who, though a     Manichean, was one of the most learned men of the third     century, "All the world knows that the gospels were neither     written by Jesus Christ, nor his apostles, but by certain     unknown persons, who rightly judging that they should not     obtain belief respecting things which they had not seen,     placed at the head of their recitals the names of     contemporary apostles." See Beausob. vol. i. and Hist. des     Apologistes de la Relig. Chret. par Burigni, a sagacious     writer, who has demonstrated the absolute uncertainty of     those foundations of the Christian religion; so that the     existence of Jesus is no better proved than that of Osiris     and Hercules, or that of Fot or Beddou, with whom, says M.     de Guignes, the Chinese continually confound him, for they     never call Jesus by any other name than Fot.  Hist. de Huns.     ** That is to say, from the pious romances formed out of the     sacred legends of the mysteries of Mithra, Ceres, Isis,     etc., from whence are equally derived the books of the     Hindoos and the Bonzes.  Our missionaries have long remarked     a striking resemblance between those books and the gospels.     M. Wilkins expressly mentions it in a note in the Bhagvat     Geeta.  All agree that Krisna, Fot, and Jesus have the same     characteristic features: but religious prejudice has stood     in the way of drawing from this circumstance the proper and     natural inference.  To time and reason must it be left to     display the truth


Association with Hermes: Hermes (Oudgrieks: Ἑρμῆς, ook Hermeias Ἑρμείας, Dorisch: Ἑρμᾶς) is een figuur uit de Griekse mythologie. Hij is de zoon van de oppergod Zeus en de bergnimf Maia, en is met name bekend als god van de handel en boodschapper der goden.

Oorspronkelijk was hij een fallische godheid en, afkomstig uit het herdersland Arcadië, was Hermes ook de nomios, de weidegod, die herders en kudden beschermde. Later zijn er echter nog veel meer kwaliteiten en eigenschappen aan Hermes toegedicht. Zo nam hij de taak als boodschapper der goden van Iris over, wat hem ook tot Hermes Psychopompos maakte: de zielenbegeleider die zielen naar de onderwereld bracht.

Edited by Knul, 07 April 2012 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

Nice find, Menno! Well, it appears someone did read Volney.

What you highlithed in your post, "Hermes is no other than Beddou himself; for among the Indians, Chinese, Lamas, etc., the planet Mercury and the corresponding day of the week (Wednesday) bear the name of Beddou" is quite stunning, for look what I found, lol:

You know that Wodan/Woden/Odin is equated with Mercury & Hermes, right?

OK, here it comes:


Alexander Del Mar. Ancient Britain in the light of modern archaeological discoveries. (1899)


74 ANCIENT BRITAIN.

Of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle there are seven extant manuscripts
whose narratives end respectively in A. D. 977, looi, 1058, 1066, 1070,
1080, and 1154. Even with regard to the earlier periods, no two of
them agree. Their idioms, handwriting, dates, etc., prove them ta
be patched forgeries of the eleventh or twelfth centuries, probably
done in Rome and wholly unworthy of credit. To regard these fabu-
lous chronicles as historical we must first destroy every landmark,
every edifice, public or private, and every tomb; we must burn the
archaeological remains of the Romans and Goths and light the fires
with the Roman histories, the Itinerary of Antonine, and the Notitia
Imperii; we must ignore the Roman laws and religions, fling into the
sea our collections of Roman coins, and stamp out the Latin language
itself.

It is abundantly evident that Britain was not evangelized as the
monks narrate; it is abundantly evident that it was not conquered
as they narrate; it is abundantly evident that it was not governed as
they narrate. Odin or Woden, from whom they say Hengist and Horsa
descended in the fourth generation, was the Tamil name for Buddha
and the Gothic name for the Greek god Bacchus or Mercury, whence
the English Wednesday and the French Mercredi.
". Hengist and
Horsa are the Gothic words for stallion and mare. Upon this myth
of the Scythian desert and the Norse fjords, the medieval monks su-
perimposed other myths, which, coming from Hindustan, Persia, As-
syria, Egypt, Greece and Gaul, gradually made their way to the mark-
ets of Alexandria and Rome, whence with other merchandise, they
were diffused throughout the imperial world. Myths upon myths, an-
cient trash piled upon still more ancient trash, the rubbish of cent-
uries watered by ignorance and warmed by brutish zeal, this is what
has been carelessly accepted by the modern world as the groundwork
for a history of Britain and the construction of its national policy.
It is time it were brushed away.

'" Tacitus, who wrote nearly four centuries previous to the alleged Hengist and Horsa,
who were "fourth in descent from Buddha," mentions the Badu-henna, or forest of
Buddha, in the Low Countries
. Annals, iv, 73
.

http://www.ebooksrea...eries-mle.shtml

Or: http://archive.org/s...age/n6/mode/2up


OK, that was a book from 1899.

But now this:

The Oriental magazine, and Calcutta review, Volume 1  1823

BUDDHA_WODEN.jpg

http://books.google....a boeda&f=false


And haven't a couple of us posted about those Buddha statues found in a Viking hoard or grave??

And if you click on that scan, this you will read: "from the Indische Bibliothek" !!

The article is in English, but someone had used the "Indische Bibliotheek" which is Dutch for "Indian Library".

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Edited by Abramelin, 08 April 2012 - 02:03 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

Ashoka (304–232 BC), also sent many prominent Buddhist monks (bhikshus) Sthaviras like Madhyamik Sthavira to modern Kashmir and Afghanistan; Maharaskshit Sthavira to Syria, Persia / Iran, Egypt, Greece, Italy and Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka


Humboldt remarks:

"We have fixed the special attention of our readers upon this Votan, or Wodan, an American who appears of the same family with the Wods or Odins of the Goths and of the people of Celtic origin. Since, according to the learned researches of Sir William Jones, Odin and Buddha are probably the same person, it is curious to see the names of Bondvar, Wodansday, and Votan designating in India, Scandinavia, and in Mexico the day of a brief period." ("Vues des Cordilleras," p. 148, ed. 1810.)


http://www.sacred-te...taw/ataw404.htm

I wonder: when was the earliest mention of Odin?

I thought the idea of Odin being Buddha was crazy at first, but if these Buddhist monks travelled a bit further north of Greece or Italy, it suddenly doesn't sound that crazy anymore...


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EDIT:

The contact between Nordic people and people from India may have occurred long before Viking times (Ashoka).

Posted Image
So of course, one could get wonder what a Buddha figure decorated with sun crosses - that's a swastika to you - is doing on a Viking barrel made in 830s AD, full of wild apples and laid down in a burial ship.

The answer appears to be that Viking seafarers and traders (Vikings: not as bloodthirsty as rumours will have it™) met Buddhist missionaries on the streets of Constantinople - that's Istanbul to you - bartered with them, and took the swag home with them. The woman who was buried in the Oseberg ship was, by the looks of it, powerful and important, so the figurine was probably a gift from foreign lands. Sort of the tax-free gift of the times.
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http://www.flickr.co...sen/2113812748/

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Edited by Abramelin, 08 April 2012 - 04:09 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

Interesting info Abe, Odin is Buddha hey? Stranger things could be true...I'll absorb it more when I'm not so tired, it's too late for much more heavy thinking.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:30 PM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 08 April 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Interesting info Abe, Odin is Buddha hey? Stranger things could be true...I'll absorb it more when I'm not so tired, it's too late for much more heavy thinking.

Heh, yes, I thought it was a crazy idea, but after I researched for another thread I found out this "Ashoka" did his utter best to spread the 'good - Buddhist -  news'.

If you are able to find info on Odin/Wodan of before Ashoka's time, please do post it.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:07 PM

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Silver coin of King Azes II (r.c. 35-12 BC). Buddhist triratna symbol in the left field on the reverse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

Edited by The Puzzler, 08 April 2012 - 05:08 PM.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:27 PM

Add to that, the area of the Scythians is where Snorri has Asaland, at the Don, and it becomes obvious that these IE blue green eyed barbarians, of R1a descent moved North to Scandinavia.

In a 2009 study, the haplotypes and haplogroups of 26 ancient human specimens from the Krasnoyarsk area in Siberia dated from between the middle of the second millennium BC. to the 4th century AD (Scythian and Sarmatian timeframe). Nearly all subjects belong to haplogroup R1a1-M17. The study authors suggest that their data shows that between Bronze and Iron Ages, the constellation of populations known variously as Scythians, Andronovians, etc. were blue (or green)-eyed, fair-skinned and light-haired people which might have played a role in the early development of the Tarim Basin civilization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

The symbol of Buddha is already present on Scythian coins c. 12BC - they are the obvious choice to have been in Asia, and also be the mummies of the Tarim basin. The tall witch hats are a bit of a giveaway. So Odin might be a form of Buddha...

So, the transfer of Buddha into Scandinavia as Odin may come through a line like...Aryans as such, are Scythians that roamed from Asia to Europe, spoke IE and became the Norse people (and Celts.)

Edited by The Puzzler, 08 April 2012 - 05:29 PM.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:35 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 08 April 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Nice find, Menno! Well, it appears someone did read Volney.

What you highlithed in your post, "Hermes is no other than Beddou himself; for among the Indians, Chinese, Lamas, etc., the planet Mercury and the corresponding day of the week (Wednesday) bear the name of Beddou" is quite stunning, for look what I found, lol:

You know that Wodan/Woden/Odin is equated with Mercury & Hermes, right?

OK, here it comes:


Alexander Del Mar. Ancient Britain in the light of modern archaeological discoveries. (1899)


74 ANCIENT BRITAIN.

Of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle there are seven extant manuscripts
whose narratives end respectively in A. D. 977, looi, 1058, 1066, 1070,
1080, and 1154. Even with regard to the earlier periods, no two of
them agree. Their idioms, handwriting, dates, etc., prove them ta
be patched forgeries of the eleventh or twelfth centuries, probably
done in Rome and wholly unworthy of credit. To regard these fabu-
lous chronicles as historical we must first destroy every landmark,
every edifice, public or private, and every tomb; we must burn the
archaeological remains of the Romans and Goths and light the fires
with the Roman histories, the Itinerary of Antonine, and the Notitia
Imperii; we must ignore the Roman laws and religions, fling into the
sea our collections of Roman coins, and stamp out the Latin language
itself.

It is abundantly evident that Britain was not evangelized as the
monks narrate; it is abundantly evident that it was not conquered
as they narrate; it is abundantly evident that it was not governed as
they narrate. Odin or Woden, from whom they say Hengist and Horsa
descended in the fourth generation, was the Tamil name for Buddha
and the Gothic name for the Greek god Bacchus or Mercury, whence
the English Wednesday and the French Mercredi.
". Hengist and
Horsa are the Gothic words for stallion and mare. Upon this myth
of the Scythian desert and the Norse fjords, the medieval monks su-
perimposed other myths, which, coming from Hindustan, Persia, As-
syria, Egypt, Greece and Gaul, gradually made their way to the mark-
ets of Alexandria and Rome, whence with other merchandise, they
were diffused throughout the imperial world. Myths upon myths, an-
cient trash piled upon still more ancient trash, the rubbish of cent-
uries watered by ignorance and warmed by brutish zeal, this is what
has been carelessly accepted by the modern world as the groundwork
for a history of Britain and the construction of its national policy.
It is time it were brushed away.

'" Tacitus, who wrote nearly four centuries previous to the alleged Hengist and Horsa,
who were "fourth in descent from Buddha," mentions the Badu-henna, or forest of
Buddha, in the Low Countries
. Annals, iv, 73
.

http://www.ebooksrea...eries-mle.shtml

Or: http://archive.org/s...age/n6/mode/2up


OK, that was a book from 1899.

But now this:

The Oriental magazine, and Calcutta review, Volume 1  1823

Attachment BUDDHA_WODEN.jpg

http://books.google....20boeda&f=false


And haven't a couple of us posted about those Buddha statues found in a Viking hoard or grave??

And if you click on that scan, this you will read: "from the Indische Bibliothek" !!

The article is in English, but someone had used the "Indische Bibliotheek" which is Dutch for "Indian Library".

.



Indeed very interesting and worthwile to investigate further.The matter is, if the Greek derived their pantheon from Nordic people or from the Middle East.

Edited by Knul, 08 April 2012 - 06:07 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:57 PM

I have been investigating the matter of the pile dwellings in Switzerland and the long illness of cattle. Both are used to fix the date of the OLB 1854-1867. However, I found that this interpretation can not be true as the publication on pile dwellings in Swizerland by Ferdinand Keller dates 1872, accidentely the same year as the first publication of the OLB by Ottema, but five years after Cornelis over de Linden showed the manuscript to Eelco Verwijs. As for the long illness of cattle a similar mistake occurred, as K.T. Halbertsma (nephew of J.H. Halbertsma) wrote a brochure on the subject, which was published in 1848. The brochure is now in the library of J.H. Halbertsma at Tresoar. The illness is known from the end of the 18th century end has been discussed in the Dutch parliament in 1833. Besides, on the basis of linguistic references in the OLB related to publications of J.H. Halbertsma I set the date of the OLB 1830-1840. s. http://rodinbook.nl/...eonderzoek.html .(in Dutch).

Edited by Knul, 08 April 2012 - 06:09 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:17 PM

View PostKnul, on 08 April 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Indeed very interesting and worthwile to investigate further.The matter is, if the Greek derived their pantheon from Nordic people or from the Middle East.

The matter is... did Indians during Ashoka's time travel as far as Northern Europe or even Scandinavia and spread their Buddhist religion there?

And was Odin no one else but Buddha?

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Edited by Abramelin, 08 April 2012 - 06:18 PM.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 08 April 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

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Silver coin of King Azes II (r.c. 35-12 BC). Buddhist triratna symbol in the left field on the reverse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians

That was in/near Afghanistan, lol.

And nowhere near Northern Europe.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:29 PM

View PostKnul, on 08 April 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

I have been investigating the matter of the pile dwellings in Switzerland and the long illness of cattle. Both are used to fix the date of the OLB 1854-1867. However, I found that this interpretation can not be true as the publication on pile dwellings in Swizerland by Ferdinand Keller dates 1872, accidentely the same year as the first publication of the OLB by Ottema, but five years after Cornelis over de Linden showed the manuscript to Eelco Verwijs. As for the long illness of cattle a similar mistake occurred, as K.T. Halbertsma (nephew of J.H. Halbertsma) wrote a brochure on the subject, which was published in 1848. The brochure is now in the library of J.H. Halbertsma at Tresoar. The illness is known from the end of the 18th century end has been discussed in the Dutch parliament in 1833. Besides, on the basis of linguistic references in the OLB related to publications of J.H. Halbertsma I set the date of the OLB 1830-1840. s. http://rodinbook.nl/...eonderzoek.html .(in Dutch).

I have posted about a source on this disease that was decades older than the moment of publishment of the OLB.


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Posted 08 April 2012 - 07:54 PM

Who can complete this sentence ?

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